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frostwolf
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posted December 07, 2003 11:01 PM |
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Does time truly exist?
I think this is a very interesting questiom. We refer to the past, the present and the future, but these notions are very abstract. The past can be 1000 years ago or ten minutes ago. The future can be 10 minutes later or 100 years later. Thus, the question remains 'what is the present'? The answer generally is "NOW". But I ask you what was the present, when you sayd the 'n' or the 'w' from the word. As a second can be frgmented into nanoseconds and nanoseconds can be in turn fragmented into smaller time units, this cycle never beeing ended, I think I could safely say that the present cannot exist, nor the future or the past; time doesn't exist. What do you think?
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IYY
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posted December 07, 2003 11:17 PM |
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You should read "Thief of Time", a part of the Diskworld series. The exact same issue is discussed.
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Celfious
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posted December 08, 2003 12:25 AM |
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Length for example. If we were 1000 miles tall, and the earth proportionatly equal, the actual "length" would be different but we would precieve it the same as we do here. And call miles milimeters.
Time, "seconds, minutes, years" are sort of there
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BountyHunter97
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posted December 08, 2003 06:46 AM |
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u know there was a movie dealing with past present future thing, called the langolears or something like that...
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Vadskye91
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posted December 08, 2003 02:44 PM |
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One theory is that there are an infinite number of static parallel universes, and we skip from one to the next like cartoon animation. For example, in one universe your mouth is open a tiny bit, in the next it opens ever so slightly wider, and so on to create the illusion of motion and time. Another, more unusual theory (yes, that is possible) is that the entire universe is a hologram! I actually don't understand this very well, but you can find it here or in the Scientific American magazine if you get it.
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Dingo
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posted December 13, 2003 07:46 PM |
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Edited By: Dingo on 13 Dec 2003
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Milamber
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posted December 14, 2003 08:43 AM |
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Quote:
I think this is a very interesting questiom. We refer to the past, the present and the future, but these notions are very abstract. The past can be 1000 years ago or ten minutes ago. The future can be 10 minutes later or 100 years later. Thus, the question remains 'what is the present'? The answer generally is "NOW". But I ask you what was the present, when you sayd the 'n' or the 'w' from the word. As a second can be frgmented into nanoseconds and nanoseconds can be in turn fragmented into smaller time units, this cycle never beeing ended, I think I could safely say that the present cannot exist, nor the future or the past; time doesn't exist. What do you think?
well not really, cause if you are saying
"now"
when you say "n" that would be the present, but when you say "o" time would have passed, but when you say "o" you would be saying "o" in the new present,
so in actual fact when you say "now is the present" you are saying that about the past presents aswell.
so what you're reading now is the present of what you're reading but now its not and this is the present of what you're reading.
WIERD
an to answer you're question 'does tim truly exist?' well yes it does, as a number.
time is simply a number generated by man to keep themselves orginised. and to sort of 'mark' a spot in the day.
so a long long time ago people would be saying "i'l meet you when the sun hits the moon by the river" or some such thing. and that is because they had'nt inventd time yet.
the dictionary states about time:
A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future.
An interval separating two points on this continuum; a duration: a long time since the last war; passed the time reading.
A number, as of years, days, or minutes, representing such an interval: ran the course in a time just under four minutes.
A similar number representing a specific point on this continuum, reckoned in hours and minutes: checked her watch and recorded the time, 6:17 A.M.
A system by which such intervals are measured or such numbers are reckoned: solar time.
An interval, especially a span of years, marked by similar events, conditions, or phenomena; an era. Often used in the plural: hard times; a time of troubles.
times The present with respect to prevailing conditions and trends: You must change with the times.
A suitable or opportune moment or season: a time for taking stock of one's life.
Periods or a period designated for a given activity: harvest time; time for bed.
Periods or a period necessary or available for a given activity: I have no time for golf.
A period at one's disposal: Do you have time for a chat?
An appointed or fated moment, especially of death or giving birth: He died before his time. Her time is near.
One of several instances: knocked three times; addressed Congress for the last time before retirement.
times Used to indicate the number of instances by which something is multiplied or divided: This tree is three times taller than that one. My library is many times smaller than hers.
One's lifetime.
One's period of greatest activity or engagement.
A person's experience during a specific period or on a certain occasion: had a good time at the party.
A period of military service.
A period of apprenticeship.
Informal. A prison sentence.
The customary period of work: hired for full time.
The period spent working.
The hourly pay rate: earned double time on Sundays.
The period during which a radio or television program or commercial is broadcast: “There's television time to buy” (Brad Goldstein).
The rate of speed of a measured activity: marching in double time.
Music.
The meter of a musical pattern: three-quarter time.
The rate of speed at which a piece of music is played; the tempo.
Chiefly British. The hour at which a pub closes.
Sports. A time-out.
adj.
Of, relating to, or measuring time.
Constructed so as to operate at a particular moment: a time release.
Payable on a future date or dates.
Of or relating to installment buying: time payments.
tr.v. timed, tim·ing, times
To set the time for (an event or occasion).
To adjust to keep accurate time.
To adjust so that a force is applied or an action occurs at the desired time: timed his swing so as to hit the ball squarely.
To record the speed or duration of: time a runner.
To set or maintain the tempo, speed, or duration of: time a manufacturing process
past :
No longer current; gone by; over: His youth is past.
Having existed or occurred in an earlier time; bygone: past events; in years past.
Earlier than the present time; ago: 40 years past.
Just gone by or elapsed: in the past few days.
Having served formerly in a given capacity, especially an official one: a past president; a past inmate of a cell.
Grammar. Of, relating to, or being a verb tense or form used to express an action or condition prior to the time it is expressed.
n.
The time before the present.
Previous background, career, experiences, and activities: an elderly person with a distinguished past.
A former period of someone's life kept secret or thought to be shameful: a family with a checkered past.
Grammar.
The past tense.
A verb form in the past tense.
adv.
So as to pass by or go beyond: He waved as he walked past.
present:
A moment or period in time perceptible as intermediate between past and future; now.
Grammar.
The present tense.
A verb form in the present tense.
presents Law. The document or instrument in question: Be it known by these presents.
future:
The indefinite time yet to come: will try to do better in the future.
Something that will happen in time to come: “The future comes apace” (Shakespeare).
A prospective or expected condition, especially one considered with regard to growth, advancement, or development: a business with no future.
futures Business. Commodities or stocks bought or sold upon agreement of delivery in time to come.
Grammar.
The form of a verb used in speaking of action that has not yet occurred or of states not yet in existence.
A verb form in the future tense.
adj.
That is to be or to come; of or existing in later time.
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[Middle English, from Old French futur, from Latin futrus, about to be. See bheu- in Indo-European Roots.]
Fu"ture\ (?; 135), a. [F. futur, L. futurus, used as fut. p. of esse to be, but from the same root as E. be. See Be, v. i.] That is to be or come hereafter; that will exist at any time after the present; as, the next moment is future, to the present.
Future tense (Gram.), the tense or modification of a verb which expresses a future act or event.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
future
\Fu"ture\, n. [Cf. F. futur. See Future, a.] 1. Time to come; time subsequent to the present (as, the future shall be as the present); collectively, events that are to happen in time to come. ``Lay the future open.'' --Shak.
2. The possibilities of the future; -- used especially of prospective success or advancement; as, he had great future before him.
3. (Gram.) A future tense.
To deal in futures, to speculate on the future values of merchandise or stocks. [Brokers' cant]
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
future
adj 1: yet to be or coming; "some future historian will evaluate him" [ant: past, present(a)] 2: effective in or looking toward the future; "he was preparing for future employment opportunities" 3: coming at a subsequent time or stage; "the future president entered college at the age of 16"; "awaiting future actions on the bill"; "later developments"; "without ulterior argument" [syn: future(a), later(a), ulterior] 4: (of elected officers) elected but not yet serving; "our next president" [syn: future(a), next, succeeding(a)] 5: (grammar) a verb tense or other formation referring to events or states that have not yet happened; "future auxiliary" n 1: the time yet to come [syn: hereafter, futurity, time to come] [ant: past] 2: a verb tense that expresses actions or states in the future [syn: future tense]
I hope this answers youre question.
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silx87
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posted December 14, 2003 09:18 AM |
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I hope this answers youre question.
no!
I agree with frostwolf!
how can u define "now"?
since one second can be divided into an infinite number of parts,u can't say that "the present is right now!"
but that doesn't mean theres no time at all!
the future is the time that hasn't passed yet,be it 10yrs in the future or a nanosecond in the future,but when it passes,it becomes the past...
the present can't be explained...its just something ppl made up cuz they didn't think about it like this...
but time is not sumthin ppl made up...time is not a thing,and it is not sumthin that ppl can actualy make or invent...when Galilei(I think it was him) made up seconds and minutes,he didn't invent time,he just invented sumthin to measure it by!
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Lord_Woock
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posted December 14, 2003 01:36 PM |
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The present is the infinitely small point where the future becomes the past.
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frostwolf
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posted December 14, 2003 10:58 PM |
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when Galilei(I think it was him) made up seconds and minutes,he didn't invent time,he just invented sumthin to measure it by!Quote:
Correct.
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