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a fornicator is, they are people who have sex before they are married, and Christians view this as a sin.) All homosexuals ARE fornicators by the very definition fyi.
Not always the case. Eg, if a homosexual couple was only kissing, and not actually having sex, then they are not fornicating.
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All homosexuals ARE fornicators by the very definition fyi.
You never heard of homosexual merrige?
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All homosexuals ARE fornicators by the very definition fyi.
You never heard of homosexual merrige?
Heh, I'll give you one guess about my stance on that issue...
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posted July 15, 2007 01:51 AM |
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As to God's forgiveness as a "fundamental" Christian believes. A murderer and a liar both are goign to hell, the degree of the audacity of the transgression really are meanningless the sinner is still seperated from God in either case. In this world however, a murderer goes to jail for many years, a lier recieves much less punishment. This is the seperation I need you to understand.
...and you still claim you follow a loving and just god?
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Yeah. I mean, some lies are justified: EG:
Mother, who used drugs back in her day, but has now stopped, has a child.
At the child's school, her best friend is arrested for having drugs.
The child, deeply shaken, asks the mom if she ever used/had drugs.
The mom, wanting her child to be calm in mind, says no, and never tells her child about it. It is all in the past, and never again comes up. Wouldn't the child be happier not knowing about something that would only make them more unhappy?
(Please note: I'm not speaking from experience or whatever, but I'm sure this has come up at one point somewhere in America.
It seems like back in the old days when, whatever you did, you got the rope. Stealing a few coins from a pocketbook, or murdering the pope, no matter what you got the rope.
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posted July 15, 2007 03:13 AM |
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It isn't an issue of homosexuality.
Shadey,
If it isn't an issue of homosexuality then please direct your comments to a more appropriate thread. I think this thread is addressing the singularity of the issue on homosexuality. We have other threads that specifically address christianity. You could also create a new thread addressing exactly what you wish to talk about. I am no moderator. I only wish people to stay focused and on topic. I feel it makes for a more continuous, understandable, and easy to follow read when diving into a particular direction of thought. I have trouble with polythread black holes that seem to inevitably suck people down into their clutches of spam and discourse.
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First off, anyone who comes up to me and says that they're a good person is lying because there are no good people. That said I wouldnt' pee on them or hope they spontaneously combust. I would however give them the gospel and if they still refused to repent of homosexuality, then I wouldnt' allow them to become members of my local church.
You are unhinged. Delusional.
There ARE great people in the world it is just real sad that you wont kno any of them because you obvously have adversions to anyone that isn't in your "moral circle", that you woldn't "pee" on anyone tells me a whole lot as well because even ME who professes to not like a whole lot of the populace would STILL pee on someone to put them out darling.
Yeah that's right give them your gospel, if it was your gospel you were offering I guess I'd rather not be a part of your cult...I mean....church. LOL
Let's be completely honest here "Shadey"...I am going to put it in words even YOU can understand.
First. YOU are completely OFF topic, and I for one wont play party any longer to your spoutings, if memory serves me...the question was about gay couple and what a person thinks of them.
Second. I would believe that you single-handedly came into this post and turned it completely on its ear with your psycho babble, and managed to really annoy people at the very least with your mouth diarrhea. And that is what it is Shadey...simply put.
Thirdly. I am NOT engaging you in ANY religious debate/discussion or anything close to it, now or anytime in the future, because your closed-minded attitude really puts me off.
I think I am more than open to discuss this with someone that isnt so intent on shoving their fire and brimstone dowm my throat.
Or anyone's elses for that matter...which you have succeeded in doing many times over.
All this and more coming from someone who married outside of the box and I am quite happy with that decision....10 years and counting.
Are YOU married Shadey?
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The thing that sucks abous gay marriage is people are making it a big deal when it ISNT a big deal. So what if two dudes want to symbolize their commitment to each other and be married? Why do people find it so worth fighting against? OUT OF ALL THE snow in this world to fight, poverty, civil unrest, war, racism, nuclear arms, disease, hatecrimes, global warming, too many guns, drugs, and mildew that gets between the tiles in the bathroom making it hard as hell to clean, people would still rather fight tooth and nail against something sooooooo mundane and trivial. Just let them get fricken married.... it aint a big deal.
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posted July 16, 2007 01:09 AM |
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The thing that sucks abous gay marriage is people are making it a big deal when it ISNT a big deal.
I agree whole-heartedly....indeed of ALL the things in the word to fight about people want to make a big who-ha over whether or not a same sex couple can get married?
Honestly, people's efforts COULD be better spent fighting the world's true problems that you mentioned....poverty, civil unrest, war, racism, nuclear arms, disease, hatecrimes, global warming, too many guns, drugs....HAHAHA and even the mildew that gets between the tiles in the bathroom, instead of prying into someone's else's life.
Well spoken. If I could give you kudos for that...I WOULD.
Oh and before I forget...while this little icon is aimed at President Bush I think it could be for anyone (Shadey) that thinks marriage should only be for heterosexual couples...I think it sums it up perfectly what marriage should be...and really in the scope of things marriage should be about LOVE over anything else.
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posted July 16, 2007 04:25 AM |
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It's also obvious that you haven't studied the Bible because all of those "contradictions" are either taken out of context or have an explaination for them.
Oh so obvious. You must be some kind of psycho....I mean psychic.
Of course all of those contradictions have an oh-so-obvious explanation.....right...and the moon is made out of green cheese too. LOL
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If you could care less about the Bible, which is a much greater work than your opinion, then why should I care about your opinion? (a drug addict)
I want to know how you come to that conclusion that V-F is a drug addict.
Seeing as how you dont KNOW her, and I DO...I know for a fact that she isnt anything close to a drug addict and I asking...very politely...for YOU to retract that statement immediately.
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I also happen to be a biologist so feel free to use scientific language to describe "the baby factory"... That is unless you have to use simple language yourself.
Oh...like the fact you claim to be a biologist makes you the expert on theology. Sounds to me like YOU are the one who needs the simple language honey, since words like gay, copulation or womb obviously send you into a god fearing seizure.
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If you could care less about the Bible, which is a much greater work than your opinion, then why should I care about your opinion? (a drug addict)
I want to know how you come to that conclusion that V-F is a drug addict.
Seeing as how you dont KNOW her, and I DO...I know for a fact that she isnt anything close to a drug addict and I asking...very politely...for YOU to retract that statement immediately.
Actually, does she drink coffee? Cause that's kindof a drug too...
 sorry, couldn't resist. Also, Shadey, explain this:
At one point in the bible, some guy (Through the power of God) made the sun stand still. (This was back in the days when they said the sun moves around the earth) If this were scientifically possible, then the earth would have stopped rotating and revolving. However, if this was true, then the inertia of the coninents and tectonic plates would have caused them to keep going, sliding over eachother with an incredible speed and force that would have broken all portions of the world apart, and utterly changed the landscape, not to mention wiping out most life, certainly humans and their dwellings. Now, I missed that happening anywhere in my history books, so how do you explain it?
Also, Magic, according to God, is an abomination because all magic has to come from the devil. If this is the case, then isn't Moses a witch, and must be burned? The whole splitting the red sea...if that's not some mighty powerful magic, then what is it? Or, if you want to say that the power came from god, would you not say, as my friend does,
"God is a witch, burn Him!"
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If you could care less about the Bible, which is a much greater work than your opinion, then why should I care about your opinion? (a drug addict)
I want to know how you come to that conclusion that V-F is a drug addict.
Seeing as how you dont KNOW her, and I DO...I know for a fact that she isnt anything close to a drug addict and I asking...very politely...for YOU to retract that statement immediately.
Actually, does she drink coffee? Cause that's kindof a drug too...
sorry, couldn't resist. Also, Shadey, explain this:
At one point in the bible, some guy (Through the power of God) made the sun stand still. (This was back in the days when they said the sun moves around the earth) If this were scientifically possible, then the earth would have stopped rotating and revolving. However, if this was true, then the inertia of the coninents and tectonic plates would have caused them to keep going, sliding over eachother with an incredible speed and force that would have broken all portions of the world apart, and utterly changed the landscape, not to mention wiping out most life, certainly humans and their dwellings. Now, I missed that happening anywhere in my history books, so how do you explain it?
Also, Magic, according to God, is an abomination because all magic has to come from the devil. If this is the case, then isn't Moses a witch, and must be burned? The whole splitting the red sea...if that's not some mighty powerful magic, then what is it? Or, if you want to say that the power came from god, would you not say, as my friend does,
"God is a witch, burn Him!"
Your turn.
The thread is completely off topic and this isn't the place to discuss these issues, but since a thread doesn't exist for me to answer in...
Joshua 10:13 (New International Version)
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Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on [a] its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.
Well to answer your question about inertia, gravity, energy, and every other law of chemisty and physics. God created them and has full control of them if God wants to. It would be within God's power to control them all and change them to whatever end God wants.
Moses didn't do magic, he called on God to perform those miracles.
Whether those explainations sound logical to you or not depends on your concept of God. You will not have a concept of God that allows those explainations to make sense. Lets agree to disagree shall we.
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posted July 16, 2007 08:05 PM |
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how do you know there is one god?
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posted July 16, 2007 11:02 PM |
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You are a biologist...and you BELIEVE that? For a field that generally requires at least a PhD and figures out basically how thing work and interact with its environment and you are going to sit there being in a scientific field and say things like this. Hmmmm...okay.
Science cannot answer questions that philosophy and religion answer. The basic assumption for all science is that supernatural phenomenon cannot exist otherwise we'd just expain anything we don't understand or haven't figured out as attributed to "God".
Their has to be a duelism to science and philosophy. Science cannot justify homosexual activity claiming genetics, because it's at the core a moral issue which is in the realm of philosophy.
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posted July 16, 2007 11:27 PM |
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shadey, let me put it to you another way.
how many gods do you think there are in the universe?
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Science cannot answer questions that philosophy and religion answer.
Yeah it can, Genesis vs. Big Bang.
Also, a good quote from my English teacher: "Is god like, the CEO, or is he just the Branch Manger for Earth?"
This coming from the lady that felt sorry for Moby Dick, and, despite being 57, whacks students over the head when they are sexist. Woot.
Anyway, I have a theory that there are infinite numbers of Gods in the universe, and that each one is determined by what a person belives. Eg, Heroes V produced 8 new deities: Asha, Urgash, Sylanna, Elrath, Malassa, Shallassa, Arkath, and Elrath.
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Anyway, I have a theory that there are infinite numbers of Gods in the universe, and that each one is determined by what a person belives. Eg, Heroes V produced 8 new deities: Asha, Urgash, Sylanna, Elrath, Malassa, Shallassa, Arkath, and Elrath.
I seriously doubt that anyone believes in them.
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posted July 17, 2007 12:48 AM |
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Anyway, I have a theory that there are infinite numbers of Gods in the universe, and that each one is determined by what a person belives. Eg, Heroes V produced 8 new deities: Asha, Urgash, Sylanna, Elrath, Malassa, Shallassa, Arkath, and Elrath.
I seriously doubt that anyone believes in them.
Hahahaha I think you'd be surprised.
For some reason it reminded me that while I was still playing C: DR, which was/is a Vampire the Masquerade Live action game in Chicago, there were seriously people that ran around outside of the game using the hand signals for example "Presence" thinking they would actually pick up chicks that way. I wish I was kidding but some people take their gaming VERY seriously.
Not saying at all that the guy who named the new dieties actually believes they exist, but just simply saying that there ARE certain persons out there who literally BECOME their game.
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true, and belief comes in different forms. Eg: A devout catholic vs. a catholic that doesn't go to church. Both have belief, just in different amounts.
Also, those were just the first examples. I'm fairly certain WoW junkies have done some Elune worship somewhere. (Elune = Night Elf Goddess)
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