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Shadey is just trying to justify homophobia.
He's trying to do it by disguising the only real reason why the bible and law has prohibited it for so long: people find men taking it gross.
That's it.
People don't find homosexuality 'questionable'. They find it gross. Even before straight people have thought this and its these straight people who wrote the Bible. So they make this law against it, because they don't like it, just like Hitler didn't like the Jews. They wanted these men who were 'different' to be dead. Now it has gained almost cult status as it builds upon itself in a feedback system.
That's why today it has gained such a negative image even though it is so unimportant in reality that it's ridiculous. People trying to hide gay people is the driving force behind gay people wanting to stand out, why there are these gay parades and protests, if you suppress a people long enough they will shout out. It starts oppression to the point where it has become dangerous; some homosexuals have backlashed against today's forbidding society, by purposefully giving people HIV as a form of vengeance. Disgusting behaviour obviously, but it's not homosexuality that caused it originally, it's the suppression.
It's made it so bad to a point today that I don't think that gay people should adopt kids. It will make their lives miserable, and is unfair on the child. Are they miserable because they have two dads? It's not the main reason. They've probably never had a mother, they don't know the difference. But their miserable because of how society reacts to this difference from the norm.
I'm not saying that gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry or adopt or anything. That's another question altogether, shouldn't everyone have equal rights, and all that democratic stuff? All I'm saying is that a gay couple should choose not to because society would chew this kid up and spit him out.
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posted July 22, 2007 03:45 AM |
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I think he is justifying the knowledge of experience 
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posted July 22, 2007 03:48 AM |
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A Satanist and a Wiccan have more tolerance then your typical Christian.
Bite on that Tay, Shadey can have a bit too but I think he will decline...
Yes, obviously due to the fact that they care only for themselves. There are no charitable things with tolerance if it is used to simply ignore everyone around you.
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posted July 22, 2007 03:49 AM |
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You know men who've fought wars come back and protest peace 
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posted July 22, 2007 03:51 AM |
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A Satanist and a Wiccan have more tolerance then your typical Christian.
Bite on that Tay, Shadey can have a bit too but I think he will decline...
Yes, obviously due to the fact that they care only for themselves. There are no charitable things with tolerance if it is used to simply ignore everyone around you.
You sound as if you're calling condemning gays to eternal suffering and frantically trying to convert people as caring and charitable?
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posted July 22, 2007 03:55 AM |
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TA did you just compare the murder of 12 million Jews to my opinion that homosexuality is morally questionable?
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posted July 22, 2007 03:56 AM |
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Of course it's obvious Shadey reads too much of the bible & actually never experienced real people activity.
Maybe he is too terrified to leave the house.
Maybe he is scared grandma goody might give him a little hit with the old purse
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posted July 22, 2007 03:57 AM |
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Yes, obviously due to the fact that they care only for themselves
Oh sure, and that coming from the mouth that has yet to clean itself up from the last thing it puked out.
Know any? I do and they happen to be very selfless people and more tolerant because they treat people as people, not as God fearing robots that hide behind a man written Bible.
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A Satanist and a Wiccan have more tolerance then your typical Christian.
Bite on that Tay, Shadey can have a bit too but I think he will decline...
Yes, obviously due to the fact that they care only for themselves. There are no charitable things with tolerance if it is used to simply ignore everyone around you.
You are beyond delusional. Perhaps you need to be on medications.
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posted July 22, 2007 03:58 AM |
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A Satanist and a Wiccan have more tolerance then your typical Christian.
Bite on that Tay, Shadey can have a bit too but I think he will decline...
Yes, obviously due to the fact that they care only for themselves. There are no charitable things with tolerance if it is used to simply ignore everyone around you.
You sound as if you're calling condemning gays to eternal suffering and frantically trying to convert people as caring and charitable?
It sounds like you're the on doing the condemning. I'm simply giving insight towards my interpretation of the Bible.
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posted July 22, 2007 04:00 AM |
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Yes, obviously due to the fact that they care only for themselves
Oh sure, and that coming from the mouth that has yet to clean itself up from the last thing it puked out.
Know any? I do and they happen to be very selfless people and more tolerant because they treat people as people, not as God fearing robots that hide behind a man written Bible.
Yes I happen to know the head Wiccan for the state I live in, and I also happen to be a close friend of a Satanist. Neither of them commit any charitable acts at all. They are very "tolerant", but give nothing back to society or people in need.
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posted July 22, 2007 04:03 AM |
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So basically you condemn even your close friends.
Man I wish I could have a buddy just like you
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posted July 22, 2007 04:03 AM |
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Yes I happen to know the head Wiccan for the state I live in, and I also happen to be a close friend of a Satanist. Neither of them commit any charitable acts at all. They are very "tolerant", but give nothing back to society or people in need.
Okay expain to me how it is mister that YOU are friends with not only a satanist AND a wiccan. How convenient for you anyway.
Did I mention I don't believe a word thatcomes out of your mouth.
I am so done with you now.
Hardly worth my time or even my ire.
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TA did you just compare the murder of 12 million Jews to my opinion that homosexuality is morally questionable?
Nope.
You extrapolated my comparison of Hitlers dislike of Jews to whatever spin-doctor wrote the bible and his dislike of gays.
And again, you don't find it morally questionable, you find it disgusting.
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It sounds like you're the on doing the condemning. I'm simply giving insight towards my interpretation of the Bible.
It doesn't sound like that at all. The bible does the condemning. You believe in the bible. I believe in neither you nor the bible.
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Yes I happen to know the head Wiccan for the state I live in, and I also happen to be a close friend of a Satanist. Neither of them commit any charitable acts at all. They are very "tolerant", but give nothing back to society or people in need.
This means nothing. I know a Christian who is a complete tool but he doesn't represent the entire Christian population, and neither do your two friends, buddy.
And what do you do to contribute to society that they don't?
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I don't appreciate the false accusation, but regardless I've never condemned anyone.
Except gays. And people who don't worship your god. And people who covet their neighbour or have sex before marriage or eat alot.
Actually pretty much everyone except Ned Flanders
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posted July 22, 2007 04:06 AM |
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Yes I happen to know the head Wiccan for the state I live in, and I also happen to be a close friend of a Satanist.
What would a nice Christian such as yourself be interested in being friends with a satanist or having any contact with the head Wiccan of any state, let alone your own? That seems strange and convenient hence the subject matter.
First I think that you are lying, second if they were not doing grand things such as helping old ladies across the street, volunteering at the local slaughter house, and preaching your word, what are you doing hanging out with them.
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posted July 22, 2007 04:07 AM |
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I think he twists his own words around then trying to twists others.
I heard people being pulled over by cops get away with stories more then this guy
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posted July 22, 2007 04:07 AM |
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So basically you condemn even your close friends.
Man I wish I could have a buddy just like you
I don't appreciate the false accusation, but regardless I've never condemned anyone.
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You extrapolated my comparison of Hitlers dislike of Jews to whatever spin-doctor wrote the bible and his dislike of gays.
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Hitler didn't like the Jews. They wanted these men who were 'different' to be dead.
That isnt' a direct comparison?
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posted July 22, 2007 04:10 AM |
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So basically you condemn even your close friends.
Man I wish I could have a buddy just like you
I don't appreciate the false accusation, but regardless I've never condemned anyone.
SHUT UP!
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posted July 22, 2007 04:11 AM |
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OH BS LOL.
If you follow the bible & if you misintrepet it. Then yes you blow off alot more people then you probally think.
One example of many.
You dont believe gays should marry.
It's in the bible that Christians should marry Christians.
Male & Females.
That alone says it.
You dont have to say it, you believe it.
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