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Shirastro
Famous Hero
Happy happy joy joy
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posted April 08, 2004 03:04 AM |
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Flyers in HOMM 5
I had this funny idea about how should flying units be in HOMM5.
I think they should do just that, FLY. Why would they ever have to land if they can fly.
This would give them quiet and advantige couse you would have to have a shooting unit to attack them, pikes and swods are just not long enough.
The only way a meele unit could harm them is via retaletion.
Some of them (like black drgon) would have a breath ability so that they wouldnt even have to come down to attack, hence no retalation but from shooters.
Ofcorse this would have to be balanced. Maybe by adding some new magics, that could bind flyers to the ground, or maybe some units could have the "snear" abbility smilar to the one they put in Warcraft 3.
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted April 08, 2004 07:40 AM |
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It works like that in Master Of Magic. Even better, and there are some flying+shooting/spellcasting unit, even.
However it would NOT WORK in Homm5, unless some serious changes are implemented.That would be too much of an advantage. You could make your army 100% of flyers, and then
a) Dominate the battlefield, because YOU choose where the fight takes place. You could totally eliminate archers and spellcasters first, then do "10 vs 1" fight with one farthest unit stack..
b) Vampires wouldn't be weaker. Doh.
c) "Flight" spell would be overpowered. Let's take a look at heroes4:
1) Cast Flight on 1 Medusa
2) Win.
(you may want to deal with enemy archers first, or cast Flight on hero, too)
d) You could attack with 1 flying unit (possibly cast antimagic and flight), and have as much time as you want to use your overdeveloped magic skills.
Example 2:
1) Attack/cast flight with any unit you have
2) Cast Poison on all enemies, or just Plague
3). Win
You see, without additional mechanisms it's quite abusive.
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Gerdash
Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
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posted April 08, 2004 04:04 PM |
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Quote:
1) Cast Flight on 1 Medusa
2) Win.
give medusa two shots only. and when she uses up both, she will become blind.
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drlucifer
Adventuring Hero
The Surgeon of Death
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posted April 09, 2004 02:04 AM |
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I can only imagine how powerful even 1 black dragon would be.
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regnus_khan
Responsible
Supreme Hero
[ Peacekeeper of Equilibris ]
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posted April 09, 2004 07:57 AM |
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Well having flyers as Shirastro offered is very complicated. I'd like having simple flight like in every game. Though, there could be this option, but it should have a bit different option:
creature in air:
-50% melee damage received
100% melee damage done
+20% ranged damage received
CANNOT DO ANY RANGED ATTACK FROM AIR, ONLY SPELL CASTING
in combat:
Angel (3) / 200x3=600 HP
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Hydra / 275 HP
Medusa (10) / 30x10=300
Angel ---> Hydra
Hydra loses 135 HP.
Hydra ---> Angel.
Angel loses 30 HP.
Medusa ---> Angel
Angel loses 60 HP.
Angel ---> Hydra
High Morale!
Hydra dies.
Medusa ---> Angel
Angel lose 55 HP.
Angel ---> Medusa
Medusa loses 184 HP.
Medusa ---> Angel
Angel loses 30 HP
Angel ---> Medusa
Medusa dies.
Well, that's how it works. Sorry, that's how it COULD work. Maybe system is good here what do you think?
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bjorn190
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
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posted April 09, 2004 12:17 PM |
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Why not do it like in h3? If its not broken dont fix it 
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted April 12, 2004 10:36 AM |
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Edited By: B0rsuk on 12 Apr 2004
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Ah, and by the way:
If it worked like topic starter suggested, I'd use stacks of imps as walls.
You'd have to either
a) implement "2 level hexes" - there could be both flying unit and ground unit on same hex...
b) Change the way it works
c) or drop the idea
Quote:
give medusa two shots only. and when she uses up both, she will become blind.
I hope you understand what it means, Gerdash. It means that you'd have to take away Medusa's special ability (doh). What other sacrifices would you have to make to make that flying idea balanced ?
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gerdash
Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
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posted April 12, 2004 03:35 PM |
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What other sacrifices would you have to make to make that flying idea balanced ?
whatever it takes, i don't care!
Moderator's note:This topic has been closed, as it refers to an older version of the game. To discuss Heroes 3, please go to Library Of Enlightenment, to discuss Heroes 4, please go to War Room Of Axeoth, to discuss Heroes 5, go to Temple Of Ashan.
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