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csarmi
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posted May 11, 2004 12:11 PM |
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Edited By: csarmi on 13 May 2004
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heroes, starting spells, skills etc.
I can recall seeing a table a long time ago on this topic. Can anyone give me a link or tell me where can I find it? (I can't even find good heroes sites nowadays)
What I am interested in is:
Hero
Specialty
Starting troops (average)
Primary skill advancement
Secondary skill advancement - STILL NEEDED!!
Starting spell (still needed but I can find it)
Spell book (yes/no)
Hi!
That's what I find for you/me.
Hope that helps.
Cheers.
csarmi
Hero list with special abilities: (Heroes marked * are special and will not appear in regular games, at least I think so.)
This is for SOD.
Class name: att/def/sp/know - chance to get these at level up (2-9) - chance to get these at level up (10+)
DEATH KNIGHTS: 1/2/2/1 - 30/25/20/25 - 25/25/25/25
Charna - Necromancy, Tactics - Wights - Magic Arrow
Clavius - Necromancy, Offense - +350 gold per day. - Magic Arrow
Galthran - Necromancy, Armorer - Skeletons - Shield
Isra - Advanced Necromancy - Necromancy skill - Magic Arrow
Moander - Necromancy, Learning - Liches - Slow
Tamika - Necromancy, Offense - Black Knights - Magic Arrow
Straker - Necromancy, Resistance - Walking Dead - Haste
Vokial - Necromancy, Artillery - Vampires - Stone Skin
*Lord Haart - Advanced Necromancy - Black Knights get +5A, +5D, +10Dmg
NECROMANCERS: 1/0/2/2 - 15/15/35/35 - 25/25/25/25
Aislinn - Necromancy, Wisdom - Meteor Shower spell - Meteor Shower
Nagash - Necromancy, Intelligence - +350 gold per day - Prot. from air
Nimbus - Necromancy, Eagle Eye - Eagle Eye skill - Shield
Sandro - Necromancy, Sorcery - Sorcery skill - Slow
Septienna - Necromancy, Scholar - Death Ripple spell - Death Ripple
Thant - Necromancy, Mysticism - Animate Dead spell - Animate Dead
Vidomina - Advanced Necromancy - Necromancy skill - Curse
Xsi - Necromancy, Learning - Stone Skin spell - Stone Skin
BARBARIANS: 4/0/1/1 - 55/35/5/5 - 30/30/20/20
Crag Hack - Advanced Offense - Offense skill
Gretchin - Offense, Pathfinding - Goblins
Gurnisson - Offense, Artillery - Ballista
Jabarkas - Offense, Archery - Orcs
Krellion - Offense, Resistance - Ogres
Shiva - Offense, Scouting - Rocs
Tyraxor - Offense, Tactics - Wolf Riders
Yog - Offense, Ballistics - Cyclopes
*Duke Winston Boragus - Offense, Tactics - Ogres
*Kilgor - Offense, Tactics - Behemoths gain +5A, +5D and +10 Dmg
BATTLE MAGI: 2/1/1/1 - 30/20/25/25 - 25/25/25/25
Dessa - Wisdom, Logistics - Logistics skill - Stone Skin
Gird - Wisdom, Sorcery - Sorcery skill - Bloodlust
Gundula - Wisdom, Offense - Offense skill - Slow
Oris - Wisdom, Eagle Eye - Eagle Eye skill - Prot. from Air
Saurug - Wisdom, Resistance - +1 Gem per day - Bloodlust
Terek - Wisdom, Tactics - Haste spell - Haste
Vey - Wisdom, Leadership - Ogres - Magic Arrow
Zubin - Wisdom, Artillery - Precision spell - Precision
RANGERS: 1/3/1/1 - 35/45/10/10 - 30/30/20/20
Clancy - Resistance, Pathfinding - Unicorns
Ivor - Archery, Offense - Wood Elves
Jenova - Advanced Archery - +350 gold per day
Kyrre - Archery, Logistics - Logistics skill
Mephala - Leadership, Armorer - Armorer skill
Ryland - Leadership, Diplomacy - Dendroid Guards
Thorgrim - Advanced Resistance - Resistance skill
Ufretin - Resistance, Luck - Dwarves
*Gelu - Leadership, Archery - Trains Sharpshooters
DRUIDS: 0/2/1/2 - 10/20/35/35 - 20/20/30/30
Aeris - Wisdom, Scouting - Pegasi - Prot. from air
Alagar - Wisdom, Sorcery - Ice Bolt - Ice Bolt
Uland - Adv. Wisdom, Ballistics - Cure spell - Cure
Coronius - Wisdom, Scholar - Slayer spell - Slayer
Elleshar - Wisdom, Initelligence - Intelligence skill - Curse
Gem - Wisdom, First Aid - First Aid skill - Summon Boat
Malcom - Wisdom, Eagle Eye - Eagle Eye skill - Magic Arrow
Melodia - Wisdom, Luck - Fortune spell - Fortune
ALCHEMISTS: 1/1/2/2 - 30/30/20/20 - 30/30/20/20
Fafner - Scholar, Resistance - Nagas - Haste
Iona - Scholar, Intelligence - Genies - Magic Arrow
Neela - Scholar, Armorer - Armorer skill - Shield
Piquedram - Mysticism, Scouting - Gargoyles - Shield
Josephine - Mysticism, Sorcery - Golems - Haste
Rissa - Mysticism, Offense - +1 Mercury per day - Magic Arrow
Thane - Advanced Scholar - Genies - Magic Arrow
Torosar - Mysticism, Tactics - Ballista - Magic Arrow
WIZARDS: 0/0/2/3 - 10/10/40/40 - 30/20/20/30
Aine - Wisdom, Scholar - +350 gold per day - Curse
Astral - Advanced Wisdom - Hypnotize spell - Hypnotize
Cyra - Wisdom, Diplomacy - Haste spell - Haste
Daremyth - Wisdom, Intelligence - Fortune spell - Fortune
Halon - Wisdom, Mysticism - Mysticism skill - Stone Skin
Serena - Wisdom, Eagle Eye - Eagle Eye skill - Dispel
Solmyr - Wisdom, Sorcery - Chain Lightning spell - Chain Lightning
Theodorus - Wisdom, Ballistics - Magi - Shield
*Dracon - Advanced Wisdom - Trains Enchanters
BEASTMASTERS: 0/4/1/1 - 30/50/10/10 - 30/30/20/20
Alkin - Armorer, Offense - Gorgons
Broghild - Armorer, Scouting - Wyverns
Bron - Armorer, Resistance - Basilisks
Drakon - Armorer, Leadership - Gnolls
Gerwulf - Armorer, Artillery - Ballista
Korbac - Armorer, Pathfinding - Serpent Flies
Tazar - Advanced Armorer - Armorer skill
Wystan - Armorer, Archery - Lizardmen
WITCHES: 0/1/2/2 - 5/15/40/40 - 20/20/30/30
Andra - Wisdom, Intelligence - Intelligence skill - Dispel
Merist - Wisdom, Learning - Stone Skin spell - Stone Skin
Mirlanda - Advanced Wisdom - Weakness spell - Weakness
Rosic - Wisdom, Mysticism - Mysticism skill - Magic Arrow
Styg - Wisdom, Sorcery - Sorcery skill - Shield
Tiva - Wisdom, Eagle Eye - Eagle Eye skill - Stone Skin
Verdish - Wisdom, First Aid - First Aid skill - Prot. from Fire
Voy - Wisdom, Navigation - Navigation skill - Slow
*Adrienne - Wisdom, Expert Fire magic - Expert Fire magic at start
KNIGHTS: 2/2/1/1 - 35/45/10/10 - 30/30/20/20
Edric - Leadership, Armorer - Griffins
Orrin - Leadership, Archery - Archery skill
Sylvia - Leadership, Navigation - Navigation skill
Lord Haart - Leadership, Estates - Estates skill
Valeska - Leadership, Archery - Archers
Christian - Leadership, Tactics - Ballista
Sorsha - Leadership, Offense - Swordsmen
Tyris - Leadership, Tactics - Cavaliers
*Sir Mullich - Advanced Leadership - +2 speed to all units
*Queen Catherine Ironfist - Leadership, Offense - Crusaders
*King Roland Ironfist - Leadership, Armorer - Crusaders
CLERICS: 1/0/2/2 - 20/15/30/35 - 20/20/30/30
Adela - Wisdom, Diplomacy - Bless spell - Bless
Cuthbert - Wisdom, Estates - Weakness spell - Weakness
Caitlin - Wisdom, Intelligence - +350 gold per day. - Cure
Adelaide - Advanced Wisdom - Frost Ring spell - Frost Ring
Ingham - Wisdom, Mysticism - Monks - Curse
Loynis - Wisdom, Learning - Prayer spell - Prayer
Rion - Wisdom, First Aid - First Aid skill - Stone Skin
Sanya - Wisdom, Eagle Eye - Eagle Eye skill - Dispel
OVERLORDS: 2/2/1/1 - 35/35/15/15 - 30/30/20/20
Ajit - Leadership, Resistance - Beholders
Arlach - Offense, Artillery - Ballista
Dace - Tactics, Offense - Minotaurs
Damacon - Advanced Offense - +350 gold per day
Gunnar - Tactics, Logistics - Logistics skill
Lorelei - Leadership, Scouting - Harpies
Shakti - Offense, Tactics - Troglodytes
Synca - Leadership, Scholar - Manticores
*Mutare - Tactics, Estates - Dragons get +5A, +5D
WARLOCKS: 0/0/3/2 - 10/10/50/30 - 20/20/30/30
Alamar - Wisdom, Scholar - Resurrection spell - Resurrection
Darkstorm - Wisdom, Learning - Stone Skin spell - Stone Skin
Deemer - Wisdom, Adv. Scouting - Meteor Shower spell - Meteor Shower
Geon - Wisdom, Eagle Eye - Eagle Eye skill - Slow
Jaegar - Wisdom, Mysticism - Mysticism skill - Shield
Jeddite - Advanced Wisdom - Resurrection spell - Resurrection
Malekith - Wisdom, Sorcery - Sorcery skill - Bloodlust
Sephinroth - Wisdom, Intelligence - +1 Crystal per day - Prot. from Air
DEMONIACS: 2/2/1/1 - 35/35/15/15 - 30/30/20/20
Rashka - Scholar, Wisdom - Efreet
Calh - Archery, Scouting - Gogs
Fiona - Advanced Scouting - Hell Hounds
Ignatius - Tactics, Resistance - Imps
Marius - Advanced Armorer - Demons
Nymus - Advanced Offense - Pit Fiends
Pyre - Logistics, Artillery - Ballista
Octavia - Scholar, Offense - +350 gold per day.
*Xeron - Leadership, Tactics - Devils get +4A, +2D and +1Speed
HERETICS: 1/1/2/1 - 15/15/35/35 - 20/20/30/30
Ash - Wisdom, Eagle Eye - Bloodlust spell - Bloodlust
Axsis - Wisdom, Mysticism - Mysticism skill - Prot. from Air
Ayden - Wisdom, Intelligence - Intelligence skill - View Earth
Calid - Wisdom, Learning - +1 Sulfur per day - Haste
Olema - Wisdom, Ballistics - Weakness spell - Weakness
Xyron - Wisdom, Scholar - Inferno spell - Inferno
Xarfax - Wisdom, Leadership - Fireball spell - Fireball
Zydar - Wisdom, Sorcery - Sorcery skill - Stone Skin
PLANESWALKERS: 3/1/1/1 - something like barbarian
Pasis - Offense, Artillery - Psychic el. +3A, +3D
Monere - Offense, Logistics - Psychic el. +3A, +3D
Thunar - Tactics, Estates - Earth el. +2A, +1D, +5Dmg
Erdamon - Tactics, Estates - Earth el. +2A, +1D, +5Dmg
Ignissa - Offense, Ballistics - Fire el. +1A, +1D, +2Dmg
Fuir - Advanced Offense - Fire el. +1A, +1D, +2Dmg
Lacus - Advanced Tactics - Water el. +2A
Kalt - Tactics, Learning - Water el. +2A
ELEMENTALISTS: 0/0/3/3 - something like magicians
Luna - Wisdom, Fire Magic - Fire wall double damage - Fire Wall
Brissa - Wisdom, Air Magic - Haste spell - Haste
Ciele - Wisdom, Water Magic - Magic arrow does 50% more damage - Magic Arrow
Labetha - Wisdom, Earth Magic - Stoneskin gives +3 extra defense - Stoneskin
Inteus - Wisdom, Fire Magic - Bloodlust spell - Bloodlust
Aenain - Wisdom, Air Magic - Disrupting Ray decreases defense by 2 extra points - Disrupting Ray
Gelare - Wisdom, Water Magic - +350 gold per day - Dispel
Grindan - Wisdom, Earth Magic - +350 gold per day - Slow
Originally posted by Makka, here: http://www.heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=7114&pagenumber=7
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted May 13, 2004 07:54 AM |
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Although I managed to answer half of my own questions, I still need help. I have not the slightest idea about secondary skill advancement. Anyone who could help me out?
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 13, 2004 10:26 AM |
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If u have in mind, what the chances for the single hero types are, to get a specific secondary skill (like: which skills are offered more often to a cleric?...) i can help u out there.
I read some stuff in the net and did some testing 3 months ago.
Wanted to keep the results up to thread "How does the secondary skill advancement work nearly exactly?"
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Shirastro
Famous Hero
Happy happy joy joy
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posted May 13, 2004 10:31 AM |
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I think he wants to know, what secondary skills heroes will get.
If thats the case, i dont think heroes have prestabled skills, rather the system works on %.
Some heroes have more chance of getting, lets say, earth magic, while others have more chance getting something else....thou i'm not 100% sure of this.
Anselito, add this to your "things to do list" 
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And now to the next post.
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angelito
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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 13, 2004 10:33 AM |
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I edited my post already and understood what he wants.
Itīs on my "Have to do list" already..
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted May 13, 2004 10:54 AM |
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I need the percentages, and the system in which it is offered (I assume one existing skill is chosen randomly to upgrade and the other one offered is chosen from the available skills on a percentage basis, depending on the heroes class).
I'd need it to complete this little table, also it is extremely useful in multiplayer games.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 13, 2004 11:03 AM |
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I think the exact percentages are not possible.
You have to test it for months i think..
But i can say which skills have more chances on every hero type, which have no chances on some hero type and which will be offered the most times on all hero tpyes..
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted May 13, 2004 11:10 AM |
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 13, 2004 11:26 AM |
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secondary skills advancement tables
like everything else, they have been posted on the former Astral Wizard site. I've even printed them on paper back then, but I surely won't type them in here, lol.
maybe you'll find those stats in google cache or maybe they have been moved to h3trio or whatever
I also remember Xarfax not being satisfied with those tables and he did some tests on his own. Maybe he is kind enough to post his results.
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted May 13, 2004 07:07 PM |
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..those are the "ingame-stats". But the real skilling is a bit different:
Mights get offered a magic school as 4th slot skill and wisdom by 100% at least as 6th slot skill.
Magics get offered 2 magic schools as 3rd and 4th slot skills.
So some things are regulated by programming, to make for example sure that a Might hero will be able to learn a magic school although probabilities are low. Same belongs to wisdom.
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Consis
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted May 13, 2004 07:30 PM |
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Edited By: Consis on 24 Mar 2005
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Xarfax = Master
Xarfax...
Damn he's good!
I wish I knew how to use microsoft Excel and then be educated enough to know how to transfer the data online.
Oh the skills... Xarfax is da man!
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted May 13, 2004 07:44 PM |
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Thanks. I've already done the starting spells. As you can see from the first post. :-))
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 13, 2004 08:54 PM |
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Lmaooo Xarfax
Cool posting Xarfax....now i can throw away my own testing results of the last week......
Itīs like playing the fixed maps.....iīm still too damned slow.....
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted December 23, 2004 03:50 PM |
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Revived and cleaned from SPAM.
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