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Group
Hired Hero
Beastmaster of Human Flesh
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posted June 05, 2004 02:04 AM |
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Edited By: Group on 4 Jun 2004
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Homm core
We are all here telling each other what may fit or not into the forthcoming Heroes.
We think about an Angel of Death who can choos between good & evil or werewolfs who can make children or humans who are just animals...
We think about an Ancient Forest Town habited by the troll population or an Insect Town or even, finely entering the Forge in the game. Some thoughts are inspiring, some are oil on fire...
We think as well about possible rule changes, like for structures building limit - not per turn, but by building points. And also, we think about creatures that can get experience, and so on...
But are we sure of the difference between really changing or improving the game and altering its personality?...(by the way , what happened with WoG and Heroes IV?)
Moreover, we think about an old question that just became reality:should heroes be in the battle or not?
...hm...
So what are the intimate features of Heroes? (There are things like that? I think there are.)
What worth the name of Heroes? (Is this something that you should not speak about? I don't belive so!)
As THE Community I suppose that this is our "job"...
Anyway we are just thinking...
There is someone else who's not just thinking - Is the team of Ubisoft one of us?
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"L'extreme est ailleurs. Il n'est entierement atteint que communique(l'HoMMe est plusieurs, la solitude est le vide, la nullite, le mensonge)." G.Bataille
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Zealot
Hired Hero
The heroes 2 zealot
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posted June 05, 2004 02:54 PM |
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Not sure I got what you meant...
As long as the game is turn-based, the units you lead move in armies, where heroes are the true leaders and castles are built in a separate castle screen, with the resources we all know and love, I will call it heroes. But who cares what I think anyways?
But that's pretty much the fundamentals of Heroes, I think. It'd better be tile-based too.
We've all wondered how it'd be if the heroes stepped fourth and did something with that sword/staff/thing of his/hers. Heroes 4 made this real, but I don't think I like it. Having heroes have that much influence over the way of the battle isn't like it were. Also the fact that one man can kill 50 units with one arrow isn't... something... aww, you know. Having a heroe in the ranks isn't that big of a deal in small battles, but in bigger where each army is huge, he he/she has to stand alone beside armies of whatever. And then the heroe can be as effective and kill as much as the army of hundred beside him.
I missed the point?
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Group
Hired Hero
Beastmaster of Human Flesh
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posted June 05, 2004 10:31 PM |
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Edited By: Group on 5 Jun 2004
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This is exactly what i meant!
Anyway I think that I used & use frases a little hard to cath, but I really want to have here a more & more precise image of what Heores is as a unic game...
Another thing:
I am really a n00b (just for a few seconds) 'cause I saw today a verry simple and obvious thread: "Ubisoft wants our help",
although this is not something that can change my mind!
They make something to sell so they have to think about their mony too...
So, to be clear: our way is not to quit thinking about Hereos and more precisely that this thoughts to be the Keepers of Heroes Sacred Spirit...(What can be that????....)
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"L'extreme est ailleurs. Il n'est entierement atteint que communique(l'HoMMe est plusieurs, la solitude est le vide, la nullite, le mensonge)." G.Bataille
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CB_Duke
Hired Hero
Gamer
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posted June 06, 2004 10:09 AM |
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Surely Heroe5 have to be turn-based and keep spirit of earlier versions. Meaning about using heroes themselves in the battle is vexed. I do mean they have not be used in the battle because its obviously incorrect. Where did you see commenders in the front line? They are standing behind their troops and giving commands. In this case they may to cast spells. And which of armies can to concur without directions. Illogical. But I hope Ubi Soft is good company and they will present to us good product, of course my wishes could not be equal with their works. Will see.
BR
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thorman
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 08, 2004 08:43 AM |
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I agree with Zealot,turn-based and ressources are pretty much the only things I really care about,and some key units like titans,dragons,elven units,dwarven units,....
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Group
Hired Hero
Beastmaster of Human Flesh
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posted June 08, 2004 03:54 PM |
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Edited By: Group on 8 Jun 2004
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I'm managing the best...
Anyway who needs Heroes 5!
I personally have no expectation for a new Heroes, I'm stuck with H3 and if there is something that I expect it is the WoG 3,9...
Besides, who will buy the new one if not us, the fans...
so there is no point for this thread..., only if H5 will be a heavenly 3D WoGcore based game? Certainly can be so 'caus there are 2 different things and teams!
So if there are no other opinions on what is the core of H, and which could be its future then this thread is closed!
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"L'extreme est ailleurs. Il n'est entierement atteint que communique(l'HoMMe est plusieurs, la solitude est le vide, la nullite, le mensonge)." G.Bataille
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gerdash
Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
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posted June 09, 2004 01:22 AM |
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you know, the resolution of computer graphics has increased a bit since homm2. homm2 done with modern rendering could be nice to look at. and some improvement to the ai wouldn't hurt. and a random map generator.
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Group
Hired Hero
Beastmaster of Human Flesh
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posted June 09, 2004 02:49 PM |
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That's cool, cause I like the idea of reviving our roots while creating new ones.
I want to dedicat this dying thread to all unknown, obscure & excesiv people who, just like me, have lost a lot of time trying to finish a hmap & who have, what so ever, no connection between them!
Without all this John Doe's memeories there's nothing in the air to breath...
Moderator's note:This topic has been closed, as it refers to an older version of the game. To discuss Heroes 3, please go to [url=http://heroescommunity.com/forumdisplay.php3?FID=6]Library Of Enlightenment[/url], to discuss Heroes 4, please go to [url=http://heroescommunity.com/forumdisplay.php3?FID=17]War Room Of Axeoth[/url], to discuss Heroes 5, go to [url=http://heroescommunity.com/forumdisplay.php3?FID=1]Temple Of Ashan[/url].
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