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Heroes Community > Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth > Thread: Vampires and Necroes a little unbalanced?
Thread: Vampires and Necroes a little unbalanced? This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
recca_cool
recca_cool


Hired Hero
posted July 17, 2004 12:12 AM

just a little comment on Ra2....

There is no such a thing as better, it is only a matter of choice/preference and strategy

Also, playing the game since H1 does not mean you are good nor it does mean you are bad, if it is about feeling or knowing the game , then using this as a justification is applicable. But when it comes to ability..

Remember, this is not soccer playing too much does not mean you will play good

Ja ne~~
ReCCa

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TheRealDeal
TheRealDeal


Promising
Supreme Hero
Foobum* of Justice!
posted July 17, 2004 01:52 AM

Playing Soccer for a long time, doesn't mean you're good either.

But Vampires are better than Venoms, not just a choice of strat, just simply BETTER, better in strenght, better in numbers, and you rarely lose any of them.
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recca_cool
recca_cool


Hired Hero
posted July 17, 2004 06:02 AM

Quote:
Playing Soccer for a long time, doesn't mean you're good either.

But Vampires are better than Venoms, not just a choice of strat, just simply BETTER, better in strenght, better in numbers, and you rarely lose any of them.


mm well, as I said again: it is a matter of preference, and venom is a ranger, which is rare for that castle... so...

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balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted July 17, 2004 03:10 PM

this is funny

vamps suck
if you don't have over 10 of them they die so easy to even neutrals

now vemons hehe
they destroy anything mostly when over 5
just use slow or aging
vamps have no artys for them like vemons do
vemons with snipers and davids are the sickest thing i ever saw fighting another emepor in toh i killed 8 phoinxes plus putting posion on them in round 1
i had 35


now tell me how many vamps do you need to do that?
60?
80?
maybe more
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TheRealDeal
TheRealDeal


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Foobum* of Justice!
posted July 17, 2004 03:36 PM

LoL if that is true, you suck like hell. 60-80 vamps to kill 6 phoenixes? LOOOL OMFG .. you've got to be kidding me.
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balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted July 17, 2004 04:39 PM

hehe newbie

he has a gm tact of course and some tact arties
phoinxes will have over 60 def
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TheRealDeal
TheRealDeal


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Foobum* of Justice!
posted July 17, 2004 05:31 PM

And the vamps has got nothing? T_T. Vamps > Venoms, for so many reasons you can't even think about.
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TheRealDeal
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Foobum* of Justice!
posted July 18, 2004 03:00 AM

You've got to be kidding me! Vampires are like the GOD of tier 3 monsters, they even outrank a few tier 4's!
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balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted July 18, 2004 04:31 AM

yea right lol
you crack me up
goblin knights would destroy vamps
so would any level 4
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recca_cool
recca_cool


Hired Hero
posted July 18, 2004 05:10 AM

Quote:
You've got to be kidding me! Vampires are like the GOD of tier 3 monsters, they even outrank a few tier 4's!


LoL very funny guy and can you give examples on which level 4 vamp is stronger ?

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TheRealDeal
TheRealDeal


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Foobum* of Justice!
posted July 18, 2004 01:51 PM

With skills, they outrank: Behemoths and Mantis's. I play regular HoMM4, not with expansion set.
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recca_cool
recca_cool


Hired Hero
posted July 18, 2004 02:12 PM

With skills you say?

What about the skills of bathemos? What about numbers of attack/defence/hitpoint...

One can understand the fact of your fond towards vamps, but that does not let you conclude irrational ideas...

No more to say, as comparision is obvious....

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TheRealDeal
TheRealDeal


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Foobum* of Justice!
posted July 18, 2004 02:23 PM

You wait with the vamps, they send their Behemoths up, the vamps attack(no retalation), next turne, you can attack again, without it can retalate, someone attacks you, and you retalate, wow, you just got some health back. And you have a bonedragon ready to attack aswell.
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balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted July 18, 2004 04:04 PM

who said you had bone dragon ?
wow you make up stories
you said vamps out rank level mantis !!!!
man your worse off then i thought you were
vamps sucks matter which way you put them
now with mod even with gm tact they can barley hit the opponent first round
mantis can
so first round mantis fly over and hit your vamps (first strike) no more vamp:0
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted July 18, 2004 09:04 PM

I tend to agree with balcough here too. Vampires are not that great units. They might be one of the better units, those which are hard to kill, but crusader easily take the same number of vamps, not talking abuot other level 4 creatures. With mod, vampires become even less a threat. The viewpoint about the might of vampires comes, with thier number, which comes out of GM Necromancy skill. Besides, balcough is a long ToH player and I would not think to ignore his reply, since I bet he played more and he plays better, then you real deal. And there is no need to make a FLAME thread too. As an ex moderator of this section, I would apreciate that. Thank you !
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Ra2
Ra2


Adventuring Hero
The good doctor
posted July 18, 2004 11:27 PM

Quote:
just a little comment on Ra2....
Also, playing the game since H1 does not mean you are good nor it does mean you are bad
Ja ne~~
ReCCa


so what's your point?
I was just sayin' that I'm no n00b.





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TheRealDeal
TheRealDeal


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Foobum* of Justice!
posted July 19, 2004 02:11 AM

I still think Vamps outrank the hell out of Venoms, and thats just what i had to say, so i'll just leave it at that.
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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted July 19, 2004 02:27 AM

well come and learn in gs

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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted July 19, 2004 03:37 AM

haha he wont baalcough...

he did just the same thing in h3 strategy threads.. fills the place up with n00bish BS and then when it comes down to it he runs and runs and runs...

the best strategy would be to ignore him, according to this guy he knows heroes3 better than the experts and obviously he knows heroes4 ´better than the h4 veterans.

"knows" might be a better way to put it btw

a hint would be to just leave him to be with his n00bish tactics because he wont listen to advíce even if they are spelled out to him that there is no way to miss that its better. He still believe in his n00bish ways and until he has stopped doing that he has no hope whatsoever in becoming a better player.

Im sure you have those "i played singleplayer alot and i passed all the campaigns... im the best!!!" n00bs in gayspy too. tossdeal would be the same just that he is a class below because he hasnt even made it online yet


and to all of you that concider this off topic, its not because it will save you lots of long boring discussions a´la "try and learn the stubborn n00b how to actually play the game" if baalcough and the other h4 vets learns to stop argue with him. That way they can focus on giving concrete constructive advice instead.

So i suggest you listen to them.

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recca_cool
recca_cool


Hired Hero
posted July 19, 2004 06:16 AM
Edited By: recca_cool on 19 Jul 2004

LOL I managed to kindle the discuession again! I am glad
I agree on what balcough because it simply "make sence"

There is no point in arguing at all, we are here to discuess, specifically, h4 and any aspect in it.

And when I say "discuess", I mean by that a beneficial discuession, that is one which enriches our prospective of the game strategy & gameplay

Therefore Ra2, we are not against you, we ARE with you. And if an advice came from more than one person, this indicates it "might be" useful. Not ALWAYS, but most likely, so use your judgment

Ja ne~~
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