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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 06, 2021 01:43 PM |
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Fred, you are not getting punished for your beliefs or political spectrum, you are getting punished for constantly derailing threads and insulting other members. Peace out and everything will be fine, can you try please?
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 06, 2021 01:51 PM |
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It's great that you think I and JJ must leave, plus Corribus and Galaad must be demodded, fred. It was especially generous of you, changing your mind about ostracizing the latter two and settling with just a demotion. This is all because you care too much about humanity after all. 
Up to this point, everybody had been relatively tolerant about your illness, how you mistake your delusions for "obvious facts" with such strong conviction, how you presume you are absolutely infallible that you can not even comprehend the simplest fact that people who are way more literate than you, really disagree with your conspiracies, no, instead they "know full well that we're telling the truth, just refuse to admit it."
But now, from turning almost every OSM thread into your paranoid ranting wall where you call everybody brainwashed puppets etc, you switch to banishing members in a mod reconstructing thread? The preaching has reached a new level indeed! You want to see threads where childish personal fights dont exist, start checking out threads in which you dont participate, look at the difference between how, blizz and JJ or how I and Sal disagree about matters for instance. And btw, since he is not one of "the evil globalists," why do you think he needs to say something like "sure, fred has his faults, but not only" and then mentions your graphic work, not how you state out obvious facts or how at least you make out your point like an adult? I can once again list the tantrums you pulled off only this year but the post will take too long to read then. You have zero insight about yourself.
If your idea of an unbiased platform that is not a "leftist echo chamber" is Kip (who is openly trolling and just messing around most of the time), Gandalf and Titanfall, that pretty much sums up everything that can be said about you. I'm sure you'll keep each other great company wherever you prefer. But since it is not I or JJ (or Galaad or Corribus) who refuses to co-exist and yourself, maybe it is you who should take a leave then. Because if anything is deteriorating the forums, it's reading this same non-sensical mania of yours in each thread.
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Are you pretty? This is my occasion. - Ghost
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 06, 2021 01:54 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 13:59, 06 Dec 2021.
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@ galaad: what i said, stands. if you weren't targetting me primarily with snow that people in your camp do CONSTANTLY to myself and others, you wouldn't be grouped with the others. but you do, so i included you in that assessment. you CANNOT refrain from targetting me, and ONLY me. you seem UNABLE to. anytime i even REMOTELY say something off-color, you are there to threaten me, and repeatedly, like you're ALWAYS looking to pick a fight with me. maybe if you found yourself a hobby, or treated MORE or DIFFERENT people like you treat me, you would come across as a decent mod. but you don't, so you don't.
it's not just myself who notices this, galaad. you are LOWERING yourself by acting this way, and it's readily apparent to other members here.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted December 06, 2021 02:36 PM |
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 06, 2021 03:05 PM |
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Salamandre said:
fred, the key to succeed in life is adapting.
do you have any idea what you are suggesting i adapt to? do you have any idea what kind of person i am? where i come from? what i believe in? what my standards are? what i'm vehemently opposed to?
your statement is a generalization to something that should never be marginalized or allowed in the first place. natural evolution is NOT a factor here.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted December 06, 2021 03:12 PM |
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yes, adapt to rules in place. Don't like them, create your structure and make your rules. For example, If you want to keep a job, you have to follow same schema, avoid opinions that can put you in danger and such. And in case of conflict, the maker of the rules always prevails.
That's it.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 06, 2021 03:31 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 15:41, 06 Dec 2021.
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@ sal:
you know, when teachers singled me out for being a class clown, i understood they had reasons for it; because i was being a class clown, and others weren't.
when kids singled me out and tried fighting me because i was new in town and dressed differently, i fought back. i fought every single kid who snowed with me.
when i was in the army, i kept my lips shut when scumbags treated me like snow. i came close to attacking a sergeant once when he got in my face in iraq, but i didn't hit him. i had sergeants and above, chew me out for snow THEY did. i put up with their snow, and didn't cave their skulls in, because i wanted a clean record, and i wanted my shot at college.
and, i earned it through perseverance, and keeping my yap shut.
now, we're back to people not only singling ME out, but everyone like me. not just HERE at hc, but EVERYWHERE across the world. and, i don't have to put up with it, because there's nothing they can GIVE ME in exchange for my HUMILITY. i'm not GOING to put up with it. you ASKING me to put up with it, isn't going to MAKE me put up with it. what your advice does, instead, is further strengthen my resolve.
if people here were pushing YOU around, you'd have a different perception on the whole thing. you need to understand; it isn't just happening HERE, on a tiny scale on some obscure gaming forum in a forgotten corner of the internet. it's happening WORLDWIDE, against ONE kind of people.
it's not, and never will be, too much to ask that people follow the same rules they enforce. and, if they enforce rules, that they enforce rules UNIVERSALLY. and it's not too much to ask, to not be snowed with for being different.
you DO understand that this conflict is political in nature, don't you? that the left are attacking the right and anyone who doesn't fall in line with them?
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 06, 2021 03:49 PM |
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Nobody's pushing you around, you claim things, people first object by explaining why they disagree with your claims, you then reply that is to disagree with facts, (and you can be sure it is not such a thing at all), blindly deny every counter evidence or source presented to you, start a rant, accuse everone in the process. That is the pattern. This is not "being different." Once again you are the victim somehow, when it is you who suggests everyone who doesnt realize how right you are should just leave. I am done explaining to this passive-agrassive bs attitude, constantly playing out the victim, how we are not out to get him and so on... If you cant co-exist, you leave. End of story.
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Are you pretty? This is my occasion. - Ghost
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 06, 2021 03:57 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 16:01, 06 Dec 2021.
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i've been over this, and just explained it again. this isn't just about my interactions with you four here. you keep focusing on what you want to focus on, and ignoring the rest, like you and the others always do. then you think that your argument, where you respond to something small that you extracted from my ENTIRE message, verifies anything you say. your only argument is based off of your lack of reading comprehension and utter denial of truths.
it doesn't matter, anyway. nothing will be done about you four, because val ignores me. i'm just venting; screaming to deaf ears. hopefully in the future, somebody with integrity outside of the eight of us, sees a problem that they are able to fix, and actually make an effort to.
it'd be nice if hc was a place where people could discuss things like adults. there's scant few of those places anymore, because of people like yourself.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
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posted December 06, 2021 04:00 PM |
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I have to say that I'm starting to get sick of constantly reading more of the same crap.
We live in a capitalist world and that means it's a CONSERVATIVE world, and since in the 1st world more or less everyone thinks they have to lose SOMEthing, at least, things are becoming generally MORE conservative - which is to say RIGHT-WING - when "danger" is perceived for what people don't want to lose. EVERYWHERE we have strong right-wing movements and no left ones to speak of.
And the right is getting more aggressive and even militant with every day. They are openly racist, they hate feminism, they warp the truth and they tell bold lies, and if you point it out and call them what they are they tell you they just call a spade a spade and make use of their right of free speech.
And when their crap is called they start to moan and cry and call rhemselves victims - of unfair treatment, of bias, of "the left", of all things, which is of course everything left of them, in other words every one except them.
With thes people there is no middle ground, because they don't tolerate neutrality. If you are not for them, you are against them.
Get a fracking JOB, fred, and stop wasting your time on the internet with this nonsense!
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 06, 2021 04:03 PM |
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Edited by artu at 16:04, 06 Dec 2021.
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@fred
I'm focusing on the fact that nobody, including you had been targeted because of their political stance like you claim and your line of reasoning is as wrong as usual. And you couldnt have recognized the truth even if it set up camp on your nose.
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Are you pretty? This is my occasion. - Ghost
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 06, 2021 04:05 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
I have to say that I'm starting to get sick of constantly reading more of the same crap.
We live in a capitalist world and that means it's a CONSERVATIVE world, and since in the 1st world more or less everyone thinks they have to lose SOMEthing, at least, things are becoming generally MORE conservative - which is to say RIGHT-WING - when "danger" is perceived for what people don't want to lose. EVERYWHERE we have strong right-wing movements and no left ones to speak of.
And the right is getting more aggressive and even militant with every day. They are openly racist, they hate feminism, they warp the truth and they tell bold lies, and if you point it out and call them what they are they tell you they just call a spade a spade and make use of their right of free speech.
And when their crap is called they start to moan and cry and call rhemselves victims - of unfair treatment, of bias, of "the left", of all things, which is of course everything left of them, in other words every one except them.
With thes people there is no middle ground, because they don't tolerate neutrality. If you are not for them, you are against them.
Get a fracking JOB, fred, and stop wasting your time on the internet with this nonsense, dred!
"conservative world", he says. "neutrality", he says. "sick of reading", he says.
but i remember, when galaad silenced me, and you made a thread inflaming the situation while i was silenced(because you didn't have me to argue with, obviously), and the mods removing your thread without penalizing or silencing you.
that one little event, is just one of dozens of times such things happened, and in you leftist's favor.
"unbiased", indeed.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 06, 2021 04:08 PM |
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artu said:
@fred
I'm focusing on the fact that nobody, including you had been targeted because of their political stance like you claim and your line of reasoning is as wrong as usual. And you couldnt have recognized the truth even if it set up camp on your nose.
i am stunned that any one person can be so absolutely full of this much bs.
i'm done here. there is no point in trying to fix the problem you and the others create. all you and the others are going to do is just aggravate snow.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted December 06, 2021 04:15 PM |
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 06, 2021 04:26 PM |
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Salamandre said:
This recalls me Alex Jones vs Pierce Morgan famous interview. Gold.
was alex jones wrong? nope.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 06, 2021 04:26 PM |
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fred79 said:
but i remember, when galaad silenced me, and you made a thread inflaming the situation while i was silenced(because you didn't have me to argue with, obviously), and the mods removing your thread without penalizing or silencing you.
And of course you are wrong with your assumptions and accusations. I made the thread because I knew what was coming and was looking for some kind of solution to stop this nonsense. I think I suggested to simply forbid (GENERALLY) to call other hc members ANYTHING (as in "You are...") - but everyone else said, nah, bad idea, so I relented and said "bad idea" as well, you can delete the thread.
Because, remember, fred, that's why you were silenced - you couldn't stop calling people names, the moderators as well. You were NOT silenced because your opinion.
You have that in common with the right-wing rabble: they call others names and when they get punished because of their bad behavior they claim political reasons.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted December 06, 2021 04:49 PM |
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Salamandre said:
This recalls me Alex Jones vs Pierce Morgan famous interview. Gold.
Gold indeed but he's so parodical, I suspect he may be just playing a persona.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted December 06, 2021 05:01 PM |
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Not sure, why is Morgan so livid suddenly then 
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Corribus
Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted December 06, 2021 05:37 PM |
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People, this thread is intended to discuss moderator changes and updates. Please take this discussion elsewhere.
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted December 10, 2021 07:44 AM |
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Kipshasz said:
And you said you left the board forever with no intention to return.
I did, then I understood I was letting you and your godfather bully me out of my home.
I'm not the one to blame if he has the same sense of ethics of a science investigator working in Auschwitz.
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