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Heroes Community > Heroes 8+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Another Idea: random/variable startpoint
Thread: Another Idea: random/variable startpoint
Daddy
Daddy


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posted August 15, 2004 09:55 PM

Another Idea: random/variable startpoint

This imo would be great for random map creation and the map editor. A possibilty to set numerous startpoints for the human and/or AI players, from that one is randomly chosen at start of game; so the maps get a bit more randomnes wich can enhance the re-play-factor.
U got a bit more possibilitys for 1 map this way.
Whatcha think?

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Daddy
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AMtwis
AMtwis


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posted August 15, 2004 09:58 PM


Well, do you just start at another place where there is a castle, or can you start in the wilderness? Remember too not make it unbalanced. Example, We play. You get to start at a castle. I get to start next to a pack of Mighty Moos
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Daddy
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posted August 15, 2004 10:57 PM
Edited By: Daddy on 15 Aug 2004

Well, I had it in mind that u start with a castle - but the place where it is may vary.In the editor eg u place 5 castles.

One in the upper right
One in the upper left
One in the lower right
One in the lower left.
Then u set 3 of them as "possible startingpoint for player" red e.g. so now when u play the map, the computer randomly lets u start at town a, b or c.

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Daddy

edit: maybe u could also set percentagfes for how often town a.b.c will be used as starting point. (e.g. 15%a, 20%b and 65%c)
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Draco
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posted August 16, 2004 04:03 PM

sounds like a good idea, this way you can play a 8 player map with only 2 people too if you so chose

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Polaris
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posted August 18, 2004 05:03 AM

Seriously, I can't believe this isn't already in there.
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Draco
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posted August 18, 2004 04:33 PM

ya it is a pain having to modify the map everytime you wanna play a 6v2 or a 2v2v2 allied map.

p.s. this would allow alliances too

it does seem silly that you cant play a large map without computer players as well

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posted August 18, 2004 04:38 PM

nice idea, but Draco's got a point
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Daddy
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posted August 18, 2004 05:26 PM

Quote:
it does seem silly that you cant play a large map without computer players as well
sry, I think, I did not get, whatcha mean wit this sentence

reg
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AMtwis
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posted August 18, 2004 09:18 PM

He probably meant, that it's bad that you can't be like 2 guys on an xl map. That way, you both would probably get much resources and creatures before you meet
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Targan
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posted August 18, 2004 10:19 PM

Quote:
This imo would be great for random map creation and the map editor. A possibilty to set numerous startpoints for the human and/or AI players, from that one is randomly chosen at start of game; so the maps get a bit more randomnes wich can enhance the re-play-factor.
U got a bit more possibilitys for 1 map this way.
Whatcha think?

reg
Daddy


this is already possible in heroes 4, for example see the pseudo-random map: "unknown lands"

http://www.toheroes.com/h4maps/medium.html

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Malekith
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posted August 19, 2004 06:09 PM

Nice idea. This idea is great if play against friends same map many times because then enemy can be a different place Red isn't same start place all the time etc.

Ofc it's must be a balanced.

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gorman
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posted August 19, 2004 06:26 PM

If it was random and u were playing a 3 v 3...what would happen if 2 ppl were stuck in the top right while their 3rd ally was in the bottom left? You'd be seperated and defeated rather easily ain't it?
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Draco
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posted August 19, 2004 07:41 PM

Quote:
Quote:
it does seem silly that you cant play a large map without computer players as well
sry, I think, I did not get, whatcha mean wit this sentence

reg
Daddy


yep, what i meant was, if I wanted to play a official map thats XL, generaly speaking you need to play with anywhere from 6-8 players, but I would really enjoy it, if I could play 1v1 or 2v2 or even 3v1 ect. why must I play a large map with a stupid computer?

more to the point, I want a choice like in Starcraft, where I can choose my team, and we all arrive in random possitions.

but I want the ability to have a Max players not a Minimum

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Daddy
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posted August 19, 2004 11:41 PM

So you mean the possibility to "turn on/off" AI-players?
SO you can play a normally 8ppl map with 2 humans?

Good idea

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Polaris
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posted August 22, 2004 09:22 PM

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more to the point, I want a choice like in Starcraft, where I can choose my team, and we all arrive in random possitions.

That's what I was thinking, too.

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Daddy
Daddy


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posted August 22, 2004 09:27 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 20:19, 06 Jul 2009.

Quote:
Quote:
more to the point, I want a choice like in Starcraft, where I can choose my team, and we all arrive in random possitions.

That's what I was thinking, too.
I thought of that, too, but then... why dont have various possibilltys (or so^^)  for the startpoint?

reg
Daddy



Moderator's note:This topic has been closed, as it refers to an older version of the game. To discuss Heroes 3, please go to Library Of Enlightenment, to discuss Heroes 4, please go to War Room Of Axeoth, to discuss Heroes 5, go to Temple Of Ashan.
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