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posted December 02, 2004 09:35 PM |
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I've already decided that the first competitions that will be set up will be so that everyone can compete. They will be medium-sized projects. So basically we will have word limits to help us do things.
I also think we should have mini-comps for those that have the time.
This means like something like.
Describe a tree in 75-100 words.
Maybe something less dry than this. More like...
Describe a dragon in 75-100 words.
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted December 03, 2004 08:49 AM |
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Dragon one sounds good... I think that if we have a mini comp first with just the few of us, then it might attract more members. And there should be an experience system.
I like role play experience systems. Especially detailed ones.
But it seems that Mighty Mage is away so we might have to wait for him seeing as he counts for a large percentage of the the whole guild.
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posted December 03, 2004 12:56 PM |
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I'll play
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posted December 03, 2004 11:23 PM |
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Well if this gets popular I'll incorporate some of the more ambitious ideas that Shadowcaster and I have planned.
Edit: Here is the long term goal for this guild. To enter this free contest and if possible even to win the contest, which means we get published ^_^.
I have a proposal that I think would really set some long term goals for this guild. One of those being to spread its wings and get new forums involved and secondly. There's a competition that I think we should aim to join.
The competition is called Writers and Artists of the Future. It is one of the most prestigious competitions for fantasy/sci-fi artwork and writing. Some of the most famous illustrators and authors in the fantasy genre are judges. The winner's of the competitions will have their pieces will be published
Here's the website.
http://www.writersofthefuture.com/
I am also proposing this is as the ultimate long term goal for the Guild of Pixelartists. I think we, as in both guilds, should work together on this to improve our crafts and enter in this contest.
The specs for the Illustrating Contest goes as follows. You submit 3 pieces of work. They must convey 3 themes. That means you can have one be dragon's, one be wizards, one be elves or whatever. The themes must be related to the fantasy or sci-fi genre. And there must be exactly 3 of them. 3 themes, 3 pics. They must be black and white only. They can be computer generated. There is no size restriction, however it must be mailed in an envelope with a specific size, so keep that in mind.
The specs for the Writing Contest goes as follows. Maximum of 17,000 words. It must be about either fantasy or science fiction. No poetry or works for children.
Note that there are numerous rules there that you must follow. If you don't follow the rules, you will be sent back a copy of the rules. I outlined the ones that were the most important. The rest are simply format guidelines. Like putting the page number on each page of the manuscript or submitting only a black and white photocopy of the original work.
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posted December 05, 2004 10:42 PM |
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these ideas are preety good... and i think i am gonna join as soon as i get holidays.... i think maybe when we get enuf members we can write a big project... some like Tolkien's Lord of the rings or something... you know heroic fantasy!
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posted December 06, 2004 04:09 AM |
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Oh yeah another cool thing. Entries can be written by any number of authors. So if anyone wants to combine their efforts towards writing a story. Then go for it. However I wouldn't get more than three, because I think it would end up being too long or too difficult to split up into parts.
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posted December 06, 2004 11:52 AM |
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I submit this for discussion by the Guild
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posted December 16, 2004 01:54 AM |
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The first character was unique. It had never been done before. However I felt like the second character had been done before. She felt like the same strong feminine character that you see far too often. She may be a badass mofo, but she didn't have that same uniqueness that made you identify with the first character.
Granted steriotypical characters can be used very effectively if they are used correctly. I just don't feel that her character was as engaging. It could be that you are from a culture that is more interested in stories of royalty than our American one. They simply aren't part of the American culture.
When writing a work of fiction, you need to remember who your audience is sometimes. One book may be very popular in one part of the world, but not in another, or popular among one group of people, but not among another.
On the contrary, your first chapter, created an entire culture. An entire civilization right at your feet. It was very original. It was by no means the steriotype. For some reason, everyone can relate to the old reluctant hero. Everyone is unsure of themselves whether or not they hide it. Everyone is sometimes afraid of falling on their face.
The reluctant heroes like Frodo come to mind.
I think you should consider writing the story from the perspective of Karn. That a strong character like the one in your second chapter would be viewed much better from the eyes of Karn.
Chapter 2 is a great exercise of getting to know your character, but the reader doesn't need to know everything about the character. Only you the writer does. Sometimes many things are simply unnecessary to the story and development of characters.
I like where you are going with this though.
If I was you, I would write a few more chapters from the perspective of each character to see where it goes.
But you might consider to just use one of them as the beginning of your story.
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Korejora
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posted December 16, 2004 10:56 PM |
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Quote: I have a proposal that I think would really set some long term goals for this guild. One of those being to spread its wings and get new forums involved and secondly. There's a competition that I think we should aim to join.
How do you propose to spread the wings of a guild that doesn't even have enough feathers to make a bird?
No offense, but your thread is 2 pages long, only four people have joined, and you haven't had one competition yet. While this may be a good idea for you, you should wait a little while before setting too big of goals or they will be forgotten over time.
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Rage08
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posted December 16, 2004 11:02 PM |
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I really like to write... I've wrote a 357 page fantasy story that I would like to get published. Lately I've been writing lyrics for songs in my band... I'll join this guild...
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Asmodean
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posted December 17, 2004 06:27 AM |
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Well I'd be interested in reading your story, but in chunks.
Small chunks.
Maybe you could post it bit by bit in the Forum so we can read it
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posted December 17, 2004 07:49 PM |
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Welcome Rage.
We'd love to have someone who's so avid in writing.
I have so many questions. I'd love to see what you have. However if you are looking to get it published, you shouldn't post all of it here. You should also send yourself a copy through the mail. Because this will give yourself a copywrite for cheap, because the post office will have a record of what time and date the package was delivered and you can use this when you bring it to court that way no one can steal it.
Also don't post all of the story here. Because then publishing companies will think you give away your work for free and you don't want that. If anything you might show us the beginning of it here or send it by email.
If you'd like to know more about this, my mother is getting one of her books published. I could ask her some questions.
But from what she's told me, the way you want to go about getting published in the fantasy genre is by hiring a literary agent who knows the market and will sell your book to the companies. You should look into that.
Here's a website with tons of links that can help you find one.
http://www.manuscriptediting.com/agents.html
http://www.writers.net/agents/topic/7/?PHPSESSID=4a95c2d8ec9cd17dc0724751e590d13f
Oh btw Korejora. Myself and Shadowcaster both agreed to pursue it ourselves, so we decided to share it with the others here. I also see good interest from a few other members here.
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posted December 17, 2004 10:08 PM |
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Oh another thing. I would strongly recommend doing essay contests such as this Writers of the Future Contest.
If you place well or win prizes, then it looks great as a resume to the publishing companies. Establishing a name for yourself is very important.
I invite you to join any of our RPs here in Glade. We are always looking for people, especially experience writers, to join.
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Korejora
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posted December 17, 2004 10:29 PM |
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Quote: Oh btw Korejora. Myself and Shadowcaster both agreed to pursue it ourselves, so we decided to share it with the others here. I also see good interest from a few other members here.
Don't get me wrong; it's a great idea, I just think you're starting on it a little too early.
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Shadowcaster
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posted December 17, 2004 11:29 PM |
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Who said we were starting yet?
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Korejora
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posted December 18, 2004 12:25 AM |
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RSF did...
'It' being the idea, the idea being setting that as a goal.
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posted December 18, 2004 02:58 AM |
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That is what we will be working up to. For now we are going to improve our skills with small contests and when any of us feel that we are ready to start on a major project, this Writers of the Future Contest will be a great outlet for that.
Edit - Khaelo showed interest in this thread. Welcome aboard Khaelo. So our main goal is to get some writing done do some essay contests like the Writers of the Future one. For fun, plus if we do well it builds a resume, so hopefully one of us can one day do what every writer should dream of...
But for now it's just something fun to do to help each other improve. Get feedback from other people.
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Khaelo
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posted January 03, 2005 02:40 AM |
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Okay, so RSF talked me into joining. Hello, everyone.
My first contribution is material copyrighted by someone else. This is an Intelligence Dossier from the book Dynamic Characters by Nancy Kress. I've made some tweaks to it. The point of the dossier is to investigate characters in depth and flesh them out if necessary. It can also spring plot points by helping the author determine how a character would react to a given situation.
In some cases, posting a character's entire dossier may not be helpful if it reveals things that should not be public. Post whatever you deem appropriate. (I don't care for Part Four, personally; it feels too non-fantasy for my writing.) The length is due to the many suggestions/options. Edit as you see fit.
Enough yammering...
Edit: formatting! No tabbed indents allowed, and colons turn into smilies very easily...
Part One: Basic Stats
Name:
Also known as (nicknames):
Age / Birthdate:
Place of Birth:
Height:
Weight:
Coloring
*Skin:
*Eyes:
*Hair:
Distinguishing Marks:
Ethnic Background:
Religion:
___Degree of Practice
Current Address: rents | owns | Other
___Brief Description of Home:
___Other Occupants:
Current Occupation:
___Employer:
___Income level:
Significant Past Jobs:
Education:
Family of Origin
___Father:
______living | deceased
___Mother:
_______living | deceased
___Siblings (list, if any):
_______living | deceased (each)
Marital Status:
*never married
*marriage #_ : how long:
*divorced
*separated
*widow/widower
*other
Spouse's Name:
___Name by which Character addresses Spouse:
Spouse's Occupation:
Children:
Medical Record
General Health:
*excellent | good | below average | poor
*Chronic Conditions:
*Current Conditions:
Police Record:
no arrests / convictions
#_ arrests for:
#_ convictions for:
#_ sentences served:
Friends:
Organizations / Memberships:
Part Two: Preferences & Mannerisms
Dress
*expensive, classic style (example: )
*expensive, fashionable style (example: )
*good, conservative (example: )
*good, non-conservative (example: )
*trendy, whatever everyone else wears (example: )
*comfortable, whatever's most comfortable (example: )
*convenient, whatever's handy (example: )
*affordable, whatever's available (example: )
*dressing to be noticed - how & why? :
*other
Grooming
*every-hair-perfect type
*average grooming and cleanliness for position
*clean but sloppy
*dirty slob
*other
Speech
*Pace: fast | average | slow
*Accent / Dialect:
Voice
*shrill | average | deep | musical | authoritative | other, etc.
Favorite Words, Phrases, etc?
Favorite Cuss Words?
Mannerisms
General
*projects calm image
*volatile - moods & body language change quickly
*fidgety
*other, etc.
Posture
*stiff & rigid
*straight, not stiff
*average, varies with mood
*slumped & defeated-looking
*relaxed
*slouchy & careless
*other, etc.
Gestures
*doesn't gesture much
*gestures deliberate & controlled
*gestures when excited / upset
*gestures most of the time
*gestures wildly and/or weirdly
*favorite gesture? used when?
Habits
*Smoker: no | former | yes: what & how much?
*Drinker: no | former | yes: what & how much?
*Drugs: no | former | yes: what & how much?
Money
*prudent, cautious -- saves money
*average -- some debt, some saving
*spends whatever he/she has
*deep in debt
*driven to crime from financial need
Vehicle (if applicable)
*no vehicle: why?
*luxury vehicle -- make, model, details?
*standard vehicle -- make model, details?
*old vehicle -- make, model, details?
*other, etc?
Leisure/Cultural Preferences -- Enjoys...
*sports: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*music: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*reading: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*dance: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*theater: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*movies: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*outdoors: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*going out: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*good food: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
*shopping: no | yes: mildly | average | a lot | rabid fan: what kinds?
Home
Where Does Character Live: big city | small town | rural area | nature | other, etc.
Where Does Character Prefer to Live: big city | small town | rural area | nature | other, etc.
___Why Doesn't He/She Live There?
What Kind of Home: apartment | house | trailer | other, etc.
What Kind of Home Preferred: apartment | house | trailer | other, etc.
___Why Doesn't He/She Live There?
Decor of Personal Space Controlled by This Character
*carefully planned: yes | no
*expensive: yes | no
*neat: yes | no
*clean: yes | no
*comfortable: yes | no
*cluttered: yes | no
*attractive to whom?
*unattractive to whom?
*Overall Syle, General Impression:
Pets (if applicable)
*have pet(s): yes | no
*if no, why not? are pets wanted? what kinds?
*if yes, what kinds?
*why did he/she aquire pets?
*how important are pets to him/her?
*how does he/she treat pets?
Part Three: Character's Social Ties
How Does Character Treat/Get Along With:
*spouse:
*children:
*parents:
*siblings:
*opposite sex:
*children in general:
*neighbors:
*friends:
*people more successful than self:
*people less successful than self:
*boss:
*underlings:
*competitors:
*police:
*government authority, tax guys, etc:
*anyone who challenges him/her:
*anyone who angers him/her:
*anyone who helps him/her:
*anyone who asks for help:
Part Four: How Does He/She Spend a Typical Day?
Waking Up
Who else is in the bed:
What time is it when he/she gets up:
What wakes him/her up:
Is he/she cheerful in the morning: yes | no
Does he/she eat breakfast? what:
What does he/she do during breakfast:
Dressing
Is this a big deal, consuming time & thought: yes | no
Work
How does he/she get there:
Does he/she anticipate, dread, resent, etc. the work ahead: yes | no
Does he/she give the job genuine attention & effort: yes | no
Does he/she enjoy this work: yes | no why?
Is he/she good at this work: yes | no
Would he/she rather be doing something else: yes | no -- if no, what?
How long & hard is the work day:
Does he/she stop for lunch: yes | no
___where:
___what:
___with who:
Dinner
Who prepares his/her meal:
Who does he/she eat it with:
What does it typically consist of:
What goes on during dinner:
Who cleans up:
Evening
What does character do on typical evening:
Where:
With whom:
How much does he/she enjoy it:
What would he/she prefer to do instead:
Why doesn't he/she do that:
Is the evening atmosphere: pleasant | calm | tense | frenetic | wary | fun | productive | other, etc.
Bedtime
Does he/she usually go to bed at a consistent time: yes | no
___what time:
___with whom:
When does bedtime occur at a different time:
Does he/she usually fall asleep right away: yes | no
If no, what is he/she doing in the meantime: reading | watching TV | sex | tossing & turning | other, etc.
How much does he/she enjoy this activity:
Does he/she dream: a lot | little | never
Are most of his/her dreams scary, pleasant, sexual, etc:
Is any one dream recurrent: yes | no
___what:
Does your character sleep peacefully through the night, restlessly, very badly, etc:
Part Five: Your Character's Inner Life
What is his/her earliest memory:
If he/she were suddenly much richer, what would he/she do with the money:
What is his/her stated dream in life:
What does he/she really long for, underneath:
What even is he/she most afraid might happen:
What does he/she, in his/her deepest soul, really love best in the world:
What would he/she be willing to die for, if anything:
What does he/she believe about --
___the divine:
___the purpose of life:
___an afterlife:
What does he/she active work to gain, keep, protect (not just lip service):
How would he/she describe him/herself, if totally honest:
In a single word, how would THE AUTHOR sum up this character's attitude:
Would the character agree with this assessment: yes | no
why or why not?
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Khaelo
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posted January 03, 2005 04:57 AM |
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example character
Just to get this started...
This is my character Khalida (was Karida, but that name's not period ). She's a flexible historical horror/fantasy character I play with in all sorts of scenarios. She's vaguely from the Buffy-verse, where vampires are evil demons in human corpses. I added the Rules of Ghouls. Set 1: Ghouls are the result of a failed attempt by a vampire to create another vampire. They are bound to eat only raw meat (or human flesh, depending on my mood), have characteristic red eyes, have the usual attributes of superhuman strength, speed, etc, and change forms into scary teeth & claw humanoids when angered. It's a tortuous form, and some ghouls turn nasty. Khalida is from the other group, which vents its anger upon the demons which caused the undead form in the first place -- ghouls are uniquely suited to hunting vampires. Set 2: (for when I don't feel like including vampires) Ghouls are human-djinn hybrids who have been killed violently; they have the same physical characteristics as Set 1. This profile covers Khalida's character under both sets of ghoul rules and in most time periods. As a basic rule, she grows less optimistic and more disillusioned with time, although she has never quite lost her faith.
As you can see, the finished info is shorter than the template. I left off some portions, most notably Part Four. For those of you working in established worlds, like the RPs, the background header shouldn't be necessary.
Part One: Basic Stats
Name: Khalida bint Ja'far
Also known as: Katrina (psuedonym)
Age / Birthdate: Age 19 at death, born ~615 CE
Place of Birth: Medinah (Yathirab)
Height: 5'3"
Weight: Slender
Coloring
*Skin: mid-brown
*Eyes: scarlet
*Hair: black
Distinguishing Marks: red eyes
Ethnic Background: Arab
Religion: Islam
___Degree of Practice: Pious if unorthodox
Current Address: rents
___Brief Description of Home: Usually an inn or waypoint, occasionally squats in cemetaries.
___Other Occupants: none
Current Occupation: Hunts vampires, does nursing & hospitality/charity work for the poor
___Income level: Low to non-existant
Significant Past Jobs: Merchant's daughter (=none)
Education: Literate, self-educated.
Family of Origin
___Father: Ja'far ibn Abi-Salih al-Saghir. Deceased.
___Mother: Ibn Abi-Salih's second wife called herself Umayah. She vanished shortly after Khalida's birth, leaving her daughter to be raised by Layla, ibn Abi-Salih's first wife (now deceased).
___Siblings: none
Marital Status: Never married
Medical Record
General Health: Dead. Other than that...
*Chronic Conditions: ghoul. Cannot eat anything but raw meat, cannot drink anything but water.
Police Record: Being an unescorted female involved in social work (not to mention violent encounters), Khalida gets in trouble occasionaly, has been arrested several times, but usually is released by friend or escapes & vanishes. Never convicted, and is never considered a major criminal.
Friends/ Organizations / Memberships: Khalida moved easily amongst the sub-culture of ghouls until the species was eradicated by hostile vampires and mages in ~1600 CE. Una, the friend she would rather not have, saved Khalida from the genocide. Since then, the sorceress Una and the immortal Historians (i.e. Kjaran Kjallaksson, Penelope, etc.) have been her primary social ties. However, she tends to prefer the company of mortal, Muslims to her immortal, idolotrous friends.
Part Two: Preferences & Mannerisms
Dress: Affordable, whatever's available. She wears hijab (full-cover veil) in society, preferring black, red, and natural colors. When on the hunt, she wears a head veil combined with male clothing because it's usually more practical.
Grooming: Average grooming and cleanliness for position
Speech
*Pace: average
*Accent/Dialect: Her accent is hard to pin down, thanks to the passing of time and her impressive collection of linguistic fluencies.
Voice: average, soft, but authoritative if she's annoyed
Mannerisms
General: Projects calm image, particularly under stress.
Posture: Straight, not stiff. Moves gracefully.
Gestures: Gestures deliberate & controlled, usually to illustrate a point.
Habits
*Smoker: no
*Drinker: not an option
*Drugs: no
Money: Prudent, cautious -- saves money. Not much choice, her work doesn't pay well.
Vehicle (if applicable): N/A
Leisure/Cultural Preferences -- Enjoys...
*sports: no
*music: no
*reading: rabid fan: whatever she can get her hands on.
*dance: no
*theater: no
*movies: n/a
*outdoors: yes, when it's her choice to be there
*going out: no
*good food: n/a
*shopping: no
*other: conversation, playing with kids, doodling
Home
Where Does Character Live: Whereever she feels she is needed.
Where Does Character Prefer to Live: Can deal with anywhere.
What Kind of Home: Apartment, outdoors.
What Kind of Home Preferred: Apartment, house -- she does prefer to have a roof over her head.
___Why Doesn't He/She Live There? Not always affordable.
Decor of Personal Space Controlled by This Character
*carefully planned: no
*expensive: no
*neat: yes
*clean: yes
*comfortable: sort of
*cluttered: no
*Overall Syle, General Impression: Simple and functional.
Pets (if applicable)
*have pet(s): no
*if no, why not? No time, moves too much, can't be bothered, can't afford.
Part Three: Character's Social Ties
How Does Character Treat/Get Along With:
*parents: Loved her father & Layla; rather spoiled as only child; given privileges of a son.
*opposite sex: Business-like, can get icy if hit on.
*children in general: Loves kids, very gentle
*neighbors: Depends; can be distant or friendly
*friends: Loyal & as reliable as she can be, but often promises more than she can deliver
*people more successful than self: Respectful & business-like
*people less successful than self: Same
*police: Distrustful, avoids unless necessary in which case she's repectful before trying to get away.
*government authority, tax guys, etc: Distrustful. She's been burned by authority too often.
*anyone who challenges him/her: Depends. can ignore (if challenger deemed unimportant), be deferant (if challenger could cause problems), or violent (if challeger is evil)
*anyone who angers him/her: See above.
*anyone who helps him/her: Respectful & grateful
*anyone who asks for help: Respectful, gentle & as generous as possible.
Part Four: How Does He/She Spend a Typical Day?
bleh
Part Five: Your Character's Inner Life
What is his/her earliest memory: Her father teaching her to read.
If he/she were suddenly much richer, what would he/she do with the money: Use it in whatever charity work she's involved in at the time.
What is his/her stated dream in life: Eradicate vampires; be useful.
What does he/she really long for, underneath: Humans to stop doing evil to one another (peace on earth).
What even is he/she most afraid might happen: Being undeniably rejected by Allah on account of her nature.
What does he/she, in his/her deepest soul, really love best in the world: Allah
What would he/she be willing to die for, if anything: Something that would permanently improve the state of humankind. She's not sure what qualifies.
What does he/she believe about --
___the divine: Allah is her cornerstone.
___the purpose of life: Her life is devoted to destroying evil demons and helping the unfortunate
___an afterlife: Paradise/Hell scenario, although she mostly populates hell with non-humans.
What does he/she active work to gain, keep, protect (not just lip service): See above. She puts her labor where her mouth is.
How would he/she describe him/herself, if totally honest: Lonely
In a single word, how would THE AUTHOR sum up this character's attitude: Idealistic
Would the character agree with this assessment: Sometimes, depending on her mood and whether her goals look feasible at the time.
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Svarog
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Hmm, if you guys have essay contests, I might join one. Just IM me when that happens, cos i'm not a regular bard as you are.
My eyes hurt on this forum's startings page.
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