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Lews_Therin
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posted November 04, 2004 09:23 AM |
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Youīre right that itīs certainly not a monocausality. On the other hand, I donīt think that anyone takes the decision lightly to become a suicide bomber. It needs some very strong emotional reasons, and as irrational as this may look to you and to me, this unsolved conflict seems to be number one on that list.
It has been very close to solving in the past, and with presidents/leaders who are very determined to do it on all three sides, I believe that itīs possible.
And whatīs the alternative? Kill every single black sheep (militant muslim) until there are only white ones left - then live in peace with them? The only place where it works like that is the neoconsī alternative reality.
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terje_the_ma...
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posted November 04, 2004 10:30 AM |
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Kill every single black sheep (militant muslim) until there are only white ones left - then live in peace with them?
Good point.
I would like to add that since black sheep isn't a race separate from white sheep, the death of a black sheep related to a white sheep could make that white sheep go black with mourning (to continue using your metaphor).
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zonekill
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posted November 04, 2004 02:22 PM |
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He won. But why did he win?
While looking at a house, my brother asked the real estate agent which direction was north because, he explained, he didn't want the sun waking him up
every morning. She asked, "Does the sun rise in the north?"
When another person jumped in and explained that the sun rises in the east (and has for some time), she shook her head and said, "Oh, I don't keep up with that stuff."
, , And then she voted.
I used to work in technical support for a 24x7 call center. One day I got a call from an Individual who asked what hours the call center was open. I told him, "The number you dialed is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week".
He responded, "Is that Eastern or Pacific time?" Wanting to end the call quickly, I said, "Uh ... Pacific."
. . . And then he voted.
So my colleague and I were eating our lunch in our cafeteria, then we overheard one of the admin assistants talking about the sunburn she got on her weekend drive to the shore. She drove down in a convertible, but
"didn't think she'd get sunburned because the car was moving."
. . . And then she voted.
My sister has a lifesaving tool in her car. It's designed to cut through a seatbelt if she gets trapped. She keeps it in the passenger side door's map pocket.
. . . And then she voted.
My friends and I were on a beer run and noticed that the cases were discounted 10%. Since it was a big party, we bought two cases. The cashier multiplied two times 10% and gave us a 20% discount.
. . . And then he voted.
I was hanging out with a friend of mine when we saw a woman walk by us with a nose ring attached to an earring by a chain. My friend said,
"Wouldn't the chain rip out every time she turned her head?" I had to explain to her that a person's nose and ear remain the same distance apart no matter which way the head is turned.
. . . And then she voted.
My girlfriend and I were picking up some sandwiches from the sub place last week and she asked the clerk which one of two sandwiches was better.
The clerk didn't have an opinion but did say that the first sandwich was more expensive. My girlfriend got a quizzical look on her face and asked, "If that's the case, why are they both listed with the same price on the menu?"
To this, the clerk responded, "I don't think they tax the turkey."
. . And then he voted.
I couldn't find my luggage at the airport baggage area. So I went to the lost luggage office and told the woman there that my bags never showed up. She smiled and told me not to worry because they were trained professionals and I was in good hands. "Now," She asked me, "has your plane arrived yet?"
. . . And then she voted.
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Khayman
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posted November 04, 2004 03:07 PM |
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Number Don't Lie! Mwuhahahaha!
Good one, Zonekill!
Unfortunately, of those 8 humorous examples that you provided, 3 or 4 out of those 8 people probably voted for Kerry if you look at the overall election results. 
51% Bush
48% Kerry
1% Nader
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TheRealDeal
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posted November 04, 2004 03:38 PM |
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And you think that because you have some rather dumb friends, and people you ordinarily talk to are dumb, then bush is a bad choice..
. . . and then you voted
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madmartigan
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posted November 04, 2004 04:00 PM |
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I fear for the world... Now that he has the House and Senate in the bag too, he will have unlimited power... he's practically immune to impeachment, he doesn't need to care if the american people like him, he can basically do what he wants. NO ONE can stop him.
That sounds like democracy to me. Or should I have said tyranny?
Ahh right, they are different things. In a tyranny you dont get to vote or elect your tyrant/king or whatever. In a democracy you vote for and elect your "president".
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privatehudson
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posted November 04, 2004 05:20 PM |
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But on the other hand, maybe you don't know American politics as much as you think. You see, Kerry is what is commonly referred to as a liberal.
I give you credit for knowing a lot about US politics, but you might not realize how much of a dirty word the "L-Word" is. That label doesn't set well with a very large population in this country
I know enough about US politics, including all of what you are talking about, I was just offering my opinion on who I thought would have done a better job. Bush has proven to have made a number of mistakes as president, and his attitudes and policies are not something I would support. I'd rather have had Kerry win the election. I hope Bush can right some of the mistakes he made, but on the evidence of the debates, he hardly even seems aware of them, or not willing to admit publically to them, which doesn't bode well for the future.
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Consis
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posted November 04, 2004 06:15 PM |
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Lews_Therin,
I received your IM and I can see how you might have misunderstood. My intelligence comment wasn't insulting your intelligence. I was talking about intelligence agencies like Brittish M.I. and U.S. C.I.A. I think that's the kind of approach we need to disseminate the Israeli/Palestinian possibility for terrorist training.
You see, I believe the Palestinian people are so economically poor that they cannot logically be the ones sustaining the terrorist crime lords that reside there. I believe that they have anonymous funding and resource support from wealthy people inside Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
I think that the best way to do the most good, physically, is to cut off the secret flow of support for terrorist training and incentives. Firstly, I think we need to play a kind of cold war against Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Then and only then should we begin to seek peace talks between Israel and Palestinians.
I really think that the terrorist crime lords residing among the Palestinians are way too confident and that would indicate, to me at least, that their resources are presenting through a reliable, consistent, and stable underground network. I think it is absolutely imperative that we infiltrate this global network with the kind of enthusiasm we had during the cold war against the soviet union.
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Binabik
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posted November 04, 2004 06:44 PM |
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PH
I hope you didn't take what I said as an insult. It wasn't meant that way at all. You probably know more about US politics and history than most Americans do. What I said was half joking. I was using it more as a springboard to launch into my liberal/conservative comments. Sorry if it was misconstrued.
Zonekill
Yea, there are definately a lot of those people around. I remember one time I voted and there were a couple young girls together in the booth next to me. It obviousely was the first time they voted. They were giggling and playing around the whole time. Making comments like "what was the name of that guy?" "no, no it was the that other guy" "wasn't that the thing about such and such". They had some idea about a few things, but obviousely were mostly guessing. I'm not saying people shouldn't vote,becasue they should. I just wish they actually had some knowledge about it first instead of guessing.
Consis
I disagree about waiting on the Israel/Palistinian talks. I had more to say on this, but gotta run.
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Laelth
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posted November 05, 2004 12:18 AM |
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Re.: Palestine
George Bush believes that before the rapture can happen, the Israelites must reclaim all the land of the former Kingdom of Israel. That means some Palestinians have got to get out of the way. Assume that the Bush Presidency will give Israel free reign to do whatever it wants in the region.
Don't believe me? Read the items in this thread: Who Is George W. Bush? Skip down to the third essay, "According to Tim LaHaye, the Apocalypse is now." Then read the fourth essay, "Rise of the Righteous Army." Finish it off with the fifth little piece, "With God on His Side ... By Invoking a Higher Power, Bush Sidesteps Pesky Constitutional Issues." That will give you a sense of what the fundamentalist President of the United States is truly like. His orders come directly from God, and he won't listen to reason--not even in his own party.
-Laelth
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Svarog
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posted November 05, 2004 01:10 AM |
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Guys, you wouldnt mind if I take you a bit off track for a moment, would you.
I guess some good came out of the American foolishness for my country, after all. Today, the American government recognized Macedonia under its constitutional name Republic of Macedonia, without the ridicilous reference they were using before that - FYRO (Former Yugoslav Rep), thus taking our side in the dispute we have with Greece. That was the first political decission made by Bush administration in the new mandate.
Now I guess I should thank all those of you who voted for Bush. he he
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Defreni
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posted November 05, 2004 10:34 AM |
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Hehee Svarog, Congrats to you, for finally living in a country where people can actually pronounce where you are coming from without breaking their tongues.
Guess Bushs first foreign affair decision where actually a sound one.......Scary 
Regards
Defreni
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posted November 05, 2004 02:50 PM |
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I would just like to say that I won a bet.
A year I go I said that Bush will win and now as a result of that there`s a nice candy bar in front of me.
How prophetic of me.
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Svarog
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posted November 07, 2004 03:49 AM |
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Edited By: Svarog on 8 Nov 2004
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A wave of Americanism has swept over macedonia. (see above)
Yuck! What's next?
- A Golden Statue of Bush in the middle of the national Square, called "Intillegence and Wisdom".
- Rename toponymes (e.g. Vodno mountain - Dolly Parton's Tit; River Vardar - the President's sewer, Skopje Valley - Between Pamelas Breats etc.).
- Organize a War against Terrorism bingo for the Army, where winning soldiers would be awarded with trips to exotic locations round the world to aid the American millitary effort (very rich offer).
- All existing toilets in MAcedonia to be replaced with new ones, with the shape of Iraq, so that we may symbolically support the American bombing in Iraq, even multiple times per day.
- Ban breast Milk for babies, and replace it with Coca Cola.
- Rename the country - Macedonalds.
- Replace ethics and philosophy in school with "Teachings of Jerry Springer"
- All underwear should have stickers of the American flag on it. For thongs a string of an appropriate color would do.
How does that sound?
btw, u realize that the flag thing was ironical, but unfortunately the sentiment of the people isnt.
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Lord_Woock
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posted November 09, 2004 09:04 PM |
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Skopje Valley - Between Pamelas Breats
You mean Silicon Valley?
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Svarog
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posted November 10, 2004 02:01 AM |
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you're right. that name's already taken. between her thighs then. skopje sure has a lot of vegetation around.
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