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TemoS
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posted August 11, 2001 12:53 AM |
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Edited By: Hexa on 26 Jan 2002
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Conflux
What do you think of the Conflux ? Good team, bad team, too powerful, disadvantaged ?
Edit: revived!@
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IceDragon
Adventuring Hero
endangered species
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posted August 11, 2001 03:10 AM |
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Mixed feelings about them, but I like them quite a bit.
Biggest drawback is they're so expensive... and a bit weak early in the game!
Sprites are great, no retaliation.
Storm elementals are good shooters.
Ice elementals are slow but tough shooters as well.
Magma elementals... I don't really care for em or the non-upgraded kind. Slow but tough. Good castle defense though.
Energy elementals... eh. They're okay.
Magic elementals kick serious butt! all surrounding hexes attacked with no retaliation, plus magic immunity (both an advantage and a disadvantage.)
Phoenixes are quite a nice top level creature. You get 4 of them to everyone else's 2, they're so friggin FAST, and they have a chance of rising from the ashes when killed to help pummel you opponent more.
What else I like about Conflux.... getting the holy grail!! If you get the Grail in your conflux castle you've almost got the game in the bag! The Magic U plus getting ALL the spells in the game in your mage guild makes these people no less than deadly if they've got expert wisdom.
Just my opinion.
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zsa
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posted August 11, 2001 04:39 AM |
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My favourite town
Well , I must say I like Conflux best (not because is considered by some the most powerful) but because ... well I like the atmosphere that this town gives ; I also like the Heroes that come with this Town.
On the fact that they're pretty weak in the beggining ,I must say , I see things different - I belive they are the best in the beginning (because of the sprites with no enemy retaliation and because of the airs or storms).
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Coldfyrius
Promising
Famous Hero
Vice-God for Marketing
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posted August 11, 2001 05:34 AM |
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3DO obviously gave no thought at all to the Conflux town. Virtually everything is either underpriced hugely or overpriced hugely. And, not that I'm the first to point this out, the level 2 is better than the level 3. If they had just taken the time to foll with prices and productions a litle more, everything would have been fine.
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Ichon
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted August 14, 2001 08:11 AM |
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Conflux
Well, as far as I understood it- Conflux isn't meant to be compared to the other towns, the levels 2-5 are supposed to be equal or relatively so as no element is superior to another. That was the idea... as far as cost- I think it is based on the the magic resistances- air elementals twice as succeptible to lightening the most common damage spell, water next, then fire, and magma the most because of the protection from implosion they offer. Conflux is a magic town- more than any other. Of course magic elemetnals and the firebirds aren't in the normally scheme, and the sprites went in just because of teh firebirds I believe. But really phoenix are magical also, more the dragons and other mythical type creatures. I don't think Conflux is that much stronger than other towns. Probably in week 2 or three it is at it's peak, after that it decreases quickly, but because of the high prices of some units, it's unlikely you can afford them all in that time, so you have to make do with the best ones... if you got firebirds week 1 you probably can win any battle against another town with equal heroes, if not... 50/50 chances only. Conflux decreases the longer its in the game for about 2 months, then it startes increasing again if you are playing an x-large map and have to fight magic towns.
Have you ever seen Conflux fight a stronghold though? AB's rip apart firebirds, and wolf raiders on teh air elementals along with thunderbirds... well, it's bad for Conflux, really bad.
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Kwisatz-Hade...
Hired Hero
For Paul maud'dib
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posted August 14, 2001 10:09 AM |
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Conflux
Well... conflux is a nice town IF you have enough recources else it sux, you've got to have the phoenixes else you're dead but when you've got the grail you've got a great advantage, I even downloaded a map wich has the grail from the beginning, and all spells in the beginning of the game is very very very handy
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Zud
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 14, 2001 03:01 PM |
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Conflux Thoughts
I love the heroes conflux has, the elementalists are the best magic users to start off with statwise and most already have a school of magic, also for Might heroes, Monere rocks  . I cant understand many saying it is expensive tho, it only takes a bit of ore and not a lot of mercury to built up a Flux, rather cheap IMHO, firebirds and citadel are very easy to build week one on most maps and you then have 5 firebirds week 2, (Sweet) another very strong bonus is the ability to buy any magic seconday skill once u build university, (How many games have U run around ready to give your left nut for earth magic ) and as for the grail, well it is basically ridiculous (I dont like grail on maps personally)
Now I will agree that the magma's and Energy's are not up to snuff of most lvl 4 and 5's (great castle defenders tho) and the phoenix's may die a bit easier than other lvl 7's but, I have double the amount of lvl 7's compared to other castle. So I'm ok with that. Overall a strong town, but not overpowering comparativly
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Smiley
Adventuring Hero
King of All Smileys
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posted August 16, 2001 08:24 AM |
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Actually from wat i think conflux has a pretty dumb make-up. elementals are not suppose to be of different levels. they are equals!!!balance and the primary substance of all things. i think they should have think of more creatures to the conflux - like a elemental mage(someone able to summon elementals!!) and just make elementals summonable.
and the Pheonix should not be associated with any elements accept perhaps fire. it is a chinese myth.
Think 7th level should have been Keeper of the Elements or something(he can transform to greater elementals and cast elemental magics)
aside from all that. actually i like the conflux bcause of it's magic advantage and 4 pheonix a week. (i like pheonix very much actually just don't think they fit into conflux)
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Draco
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 30, 2003 09:19 PM |
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continued...
I have a question if you are using a conflux at what point do you get the university? or do you ever? cause it would cost 5000$ plus 2000$ per skill, that 13,000$ total if you want all five, that is insane at the beggining, and when I can finaly afford it, i need the men, or my slots are full.. at what point do you vets get it? if you do.
also how often have you actually gotten the grail for a conflux? i mean its almost impossible to get the grail unless you are already kicking serious butt.
the grail probably should have given +5 power permanently and +5 knowledge or something like that in my oppinion
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted July 01, 2003 09:18 PM |
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Well, since Elementalists begin with at least one and will more than likely be offered another one, the University is not really necessary, you probably shouldn't have more than two elemental magic skills anyway.
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted July 01, 2003 09:58 PM |
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Get it later in the game if you don't have Earth or if it suits some of the best spells in your mage guild ( Berserk or Prayer, for example, and you don't have Fire or Water ).
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Aquaman333
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of the seven seas
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posted July 01, 2003 10:04 PM |
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I still don't think its worth it because you already have two elemental magic skills meaning you have only a few valuable slots left to complete the essentials like Tactics. The University is almost more expensive than its worth.
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I
Famous Hero
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posted July 02, 2003 01:21 AM |
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K, Conflux is da best, thats's why I don't like it. It has a great start, fastest and fire immune 7th lvl, best 2nd lvl shooter, a spell imune hydra and the fastest non retaliate 1st lvl, I think that that town should be corrected by Slava, he would do it correct I'm sure.
A bit of changing stats and that town could be a magic specialized aternative.
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Draco
Promising
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posted July 02, 2003 04:05 PM |
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Edited By: Draco on 2 Jul 2003
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the way i see it is, if you buy the uni. fast enough then you can spend the money on e magic or a magic or whatever and you wont have to waste a level getting it, is basic worth 2000 dollars. i think it is, its like a chest. I usually dont take any magic skills (when offered at level up) and then later on (after purchasing the skill) i regret not being at expert, i dont want to waste a skill thats why i asked.
edit: clarified.
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LordTitan
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Hit Dice: 76d12+608 HP
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posted July 03, 2003 03:14 PM |
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Um....
Storm ,ice, magma, energy, magic, phicics and the rest are not elements. We have to realise that storm is not an element it is a cloud which is percipertating, energy is the move of electrons or photons, ice is not a element it is frozen water, magma is melted rock and a lot of rocks arn't their on element, magic is just matter that reacts with basicly evrything but you can change it to your will, phicics realy are not even close to being a element because they aren't realy there.
And Pheonixes don't realy belong in the elemental town because the're not a element.
Description:
Pheonix, a large firy bird wich can at will breath fir, somewhat the same as a dragon. But the Pheonix is a bird which fire seemingly crawls through the feathers throught the birds skin. A hunters dream if he doesn't get toasted first.
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I
Famous Hero
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posted July 03, 2003 06:29 PM |
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These kind of posts I don't like. We call it elemental town becouse it is the only city where you can buy elementals, and most of its creatures have word "elemental" in the name.
The same is with other towns, Dungeon for an ex.
Did you know that dngeon is an underground in someway flat structure built for keeping prisoners NOT to make armies or dragon caverns, or even marketplaces, blacksmiths etc.
The same is with Monk-Druid problem. A normal person, wont laugh when you call these units the same in both or a single way, but an anoying idiot will argue about one single detail, that ruins communication between both. And then that person who wasnn't strict about a damn detail, will be angry and anoyed by the stupid one. And who will profit from it?
I could multiply examples of irracional, not real things in heroes. But for what?
A little imagination & toleration wont hurt you people.
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted July 03, 2003 07:13 PM |
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Quote:
The same is with Monk-Druid problem. A normal person, wont laugh when you call these units the same in both or a single way, but an anoying idiot will argue about one single detail, that ruins communication between both. And then that person who wasnn't strict about a damn detail, will be angry and anoyed by the stupid one. And who will profit from it?
So you're calling me an idiot just because I like to keep things straight?
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LordTitan
Famous Hero
Hit Dice: 76d12+608 HP
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posted July 03, 2003 08:30 PM |
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Sorry, accedently let my scientist side take over at the wrong moment.
Edit:
Error fixed!
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I
Famous Hero
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posted July 04, 2003 01:10 AM |
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So you're calling me an idiot just because I like to keep things straight?
u said that
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hessuli
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 18, 2007 01:03 AM |
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phoenix's too powerful
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