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Gloryn
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posted June 11, 2005 01:06 AM |
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Heroes 3 Real Time Stratagy, Need Help to complete
Hey, im new here, i had som one direct me to this site in the hopes that we can wrk on this project...
Im wrking on a new project on WarCraft 3 that will convert HoMM 3 into som sort of RTS format. Of corse i would expect som ppl to pound me for "OMG, Heroes in RTS? Ur crazy!!!!" but hey..
I need recources for Models and Trigger language in WC3-TFT...
If ur a good fan of HoMM, i sure hope u would support this, it would be awsome to see this thru!
Tnx for any support or help u might give guys!
Gloryn
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Vlaad
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Legendary Hero
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posted June 11, 2005 05:46 PM |
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Do you want to create a map that would be a simulation of RTS or RT Heroes mod? The former sounds interesting, the latter is impossible (and meaningless).
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Lord_Crusader
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UHU!! supreme!
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posted June 11, 2005 07:09 PM |
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I'm not an ussual detractar of the good ideas... sounds good but sounds impossible too  , well I suppose, you have lot of knowledge in this theme... so good luck... hope you can make it work....
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Gloryn
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posted June 12, 2005 12:06 AM |
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xcuse the long post
Tnx for ur comment Crusader lol
And yes...
Yes, It will just be a conversion of Heroes 3 into RTS form yes.
It wont focus on the campiagn or story, it will simply be for skirmishes if u wanna different wey to ply Heroes.
I hav every single one in the series, and to me, Heroes 3 was the best to base this on, it seemed much more vast and unique.
Right now my focus for this mod is to act as simply another way to battle with Heroes of Might and Magic 3. I can save all the data for units, mofels, trigger language and everything so that i can release loads of maps to play and hav the availabe recources to allow the community to make their own Campaigns if wanted so. The Mod will be rlly, the foundation, its up to the fans to see if they wanna add anything like Campiagns, turnoments or anything else, all which i wanna make possible for them.
Everything is quite convergable on WC3s system, im duplicating the specials rather well and designing a conversion system to get it as accurate as possible so that i dont change the uses of the origianal games' units, such as their stats, and even their Speed. (this has different effects in RTS form)
If any one has more Knowledge on WC3s Editor, i would ask for som help, the Spell system is a major issue.
Also, testers for Alphas and Betas r needed because obviously, your Heroes will be active in Combat, much like that of Heroes 4, and changes like this need to be aproved in both, acceptence by the Community who r fans of Heroes, and the balancing and game play effects this will cos.
My biggest request at the moment is Models ACCURATLY Done and some support, just simply... support and som one who could test it, give me feed back, or help me develope the project. i wont release it til its at the very least, Heroes 3 In RTS... the origianal game has alot of Demand for me to own up to, i dont wanna destroy the theme it had...
I hope to eventually get this Mod to the Very Detial that the origianal had, to the point of even having the Terrian and the Detials like Mountians and the Forests all duplicated in 3D models to take you back into the world of Erathia.
But i gotta hav support to do this...
I would call on any one who is interested in helping in this, Just imagine Heroes in the style of Command and Counqer.
Please post your opinions on this aswell, i dont rlly care how blunt u get either
Anything helps, i lsten to the community very well and i want to release somthing that every one would like, high goal, but still, ...
If u r serious on helping me, i use Yahoo IM only for IMing, my profile is " platinumgryphon " and my emial is " platinumgryphon@yahoo.com "
Im willing to spill my gutz on wot i wanna do in this even, all u gotta do is ask me wot u wanna know about the project and i will try Everything i can to give u answers, help or any info u need to best decide if u wish to fully support this project.
Tnx lots guys, any help u give i am very greatful for...
Gloryn
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Lord_Crusader
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UHU!! supreme!
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posted June 12, 2005 12:49 AM |
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I think I like to participate... but I don't have any knowledge about the warcraft script or warcraft modding, and the same for heroes 3... I can try to learn... I have knowledge in "normal" programming lenguages... I mean C++, Visual Basic, Delphi(Pascal) etc , But I think this are useless... I think I can say that I'm a fan of both games... well about the questions a have some...
- Who will desing the 3d graphics of the units?
- If I undertand well you want to make a MOD for warcraft 3 with the heroes 3 units, heroes ETC right?? If is this, on which version you will work?? Reing of chaos?? or Frozen Throne? 1.18???
- Which unique things of heroes 3 you want to put in your mod?? I mean the heroes will have primary skills and secondary skills?? or just the skills that Warcraft's heroes have??
This is the start... so I use Yahoo IM too... this mis my email mauricio_cf@yahoo.com...
C Ya...
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Gloryn
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posted June 12, 2005 03:49 AM |
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- Who will desing the 3d graphics of the units?
Im still searching for modelers, for the units alone, i need up to 136 or so units model'd, thats not even including the Buildings, the Doodads, items and other things essential to Heroes 3. I have one assistant who is interested, but it isnt fully decided yet. The more ppl i hav designing, the better, it'll lift the weight off of ONE modeler's shoulder by Tons...
If u have any links, spread the word if u wish, i need Artists BADLY lol
If I undertand well you want to make a MOD for warcraft 3 with the heroes 3 units, heroes ETC right?? If is this, on which version you will work?? Reing of chaos?? or Frozen Throne? 1.18???
Yep, a mod, total Conversion of Heroes 3 RoA into RTS form. Warcraft 3 is rlly just being used for the engine to which to convert with. And yes, it will be TFT. So far, patches of TFT have no effect on wot im doing, but we will need the latest of corse to test the Mod, Auto Updates on B.net any wey...
- Which unique things of heroes 3 you want to put in your mod?? I mean the heroes will have primary skills and secondary skills?? or just the skills that Warcraft's heroes have??
I would wish to have it as close to Heroes 3 as possible in the RPG elements that title Employed. The unique things will be like having the Hero participate in combat, How will this balance? Another thing is, its RTS, u hav more individual control of ur troops than ever b/fore, wot unique things will develope from this? its a process that will be discovered as the Mod reaches from Alpha to Beta. The biggest thing to note is that i want to keep this as accurate to HoMM3 as possible, but be aware that being in a much more flexable and free invironment, some things are subjected to change. For instance, in Heroes 3, flying units never rlly had an advantage aside from the fact they could fly over battlments, and usually had a tremendous speed for initiatives. In RTS, this will have to change, because when they r flying, they cant be attacked my swordsmen or the likes. Altaring like this will exist and come to the forfront.
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Vlaad
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ghost of the past
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posted June 12, 2005 11:44 AM |
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I hate to be the one to tell you the bad news, but your project is impossible.
It would take the Heroes 3 source code (now property of Ubisoft), the knowledge of breaking it, and finally a great number of artists. You don't seem to have any of those.
There was a modhomm3, a French mod which replaced Heroes 3 graphics with Warcraft 2 graphics, but made no changes to the gameplay.
It sounds to me you actually want to create a Warcraft 3 scenario/mod, which shouldn't be hard to do. That game has a powerful editor capable of creating the stuff you want. Perhaps you should visit a Warcraft 3 forum for some advice...? You cannot get here anything but ideas, and you seem to have those one too many.
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Gloryn
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posted June 13, 2005 06:17 AM |
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it is Heroes 3 in RTS format, and im using War Craft 3 TFT, the most compatible Editer out there...
Im using TFT and im with WCCampiagns... infact, thats where my mod started...
However, thats a WC fan base, and not rlly a HoMM fan base... ppl jump to RPGs and "Footie Warz" faster than they do origianal creations they dono about...
I was directed here from a Fan of HoMM on WCCampians...
Im hoping to find ppl who use TFT, in the hopes that i might find fans here to assist me on my Mod...
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If u thought i was using WC2, hehe, no, i stopped plying or even installing that game wey back in 97... havnt plyed it since
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