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posted January 03, 2006 10:36 AM

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Why do you want to make Treebeard non-living. Plants are alive.

Well Dendroids will also be non-living...Plants are alive but in their way..not like human..they don't have soul...

Why do you think they don't have souls?? They are alive as much as we are, and I don't think I'm the only one who says that. Why don't you try setting up a vote about it, and let the majority decide.
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posted January 03, 2006 11:49 AM

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Why do you think they don't have souls?? They are alive as much as we are, and I don't think I'm the only one who says that. Why don't you try setting up a vote about it, and let the majority decide.

How can plant have soul?! Think about it..And in this case Rampart will have a non-living unit which will be able to be as an obstance...

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posted January 03, 2006 12:28 PM

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How can plant have soul?! Think about it..And in this case Rampart will have a non-living unit which will be able to be as an obstance...

They are not undead or golems, they are not animated by an external force, so they must have a soul, right. You should create a vote or start a debate, because this is a serious thing. If you will make them non-living vampires will not be able to drain life, cast resurection, etc... and after all a bit of realism won't do any harm.
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posted January 03, 2006 01:06 PM

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They are not undead or golems, they are not animated by an external force, so they must have a soul, right. You should create a vote or start a debate, because this is a serious thing. If you will make them non-living vampires will not be able to drain life, cast resurection, etc... and after all a bit of realism won't do any harm.

You are wrong again...Dendroids are animated by external force!! If they wouldnt so f.e. you would see walking and talking trees in your garden.. And Vampyres will make a harm but just won't regenerate...

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posted January 03, 2006 01:20 PM

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They are not undead or golems, they are not animated by an external force, so they must have a soul, right. You should create a vote or start a debate, because this is a serious thing. If you will make them non-living vampires will not be able to drain life, cast resurection, etc... and after all a bit of realism won't do any harm.

You are wrong again...Dendroids are animated by external force!! If they wouldnt so f.e. you would see walking and talking trees in your garden.. And Vampyres will make a harm but just won't regenerate...

And which external force is that? I mean golems are animated by mages and the undeads are animated by necromancers. So who animated the trees?? And please don't tell me the druids did because they didn't(you should whatch LOTR and find more about it). The force is Gaia who gave them souls and made them protectors of the Earth, so they do have souls.
...and the trees in my garden don't move because I don't live in LOTR or in HOMM, I live in the real world where none of the creatures in HOMM are real(almoast none of them).

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posted January 03, 2006 01:31 PM
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And which external force is that? I mean golems are animated by mages and the undeads are animated by necromancers. So who animated the trees?? And please don't tell me the druids did because they didn't(you should whatch LOTR and find more about it). The force is Gaia who gave them souls and made them protectors of the Earth, so they do have souls.
...and the trees in my garden don't move because I don't live in LOTR or in HOMM, I live in the real world where none of the creatures in HOMM are real(almoast none of them).


I will not argue with you any more..I hate arguing..However they will be non-living cause I think it's better and it has to be so...
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posted January 03, 2006 01:47 PM

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How can plant have soul?!

They do have souls if they are an intelligent form of life, which they certainly are in Lord of the Rings. Even in Heroes, they must be smarter than Griffins, for example! And Vampires suck life force from them, so... I haven't looked it up in the manual, but I think that is the main issue: we are talking about "life force", not "blood".

Finally, in Heroes there is no thing such as "intelligent" or "made of wood". Creatures are either living, non-living or undead. When it comes to Dendroids, the choice is clear.
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posted January 03, 2006 01:47 PM

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Actally I'm listening to what everyone says...


ONLY S..T! I will not argue with you any more..I hate arguing..However they will be non-living cause I think it's better and it has to be so...

Actually I was trying to make you see that maybe not everyone agrees with your ideas, and maybe others have better ones. HOMM it's not your game, it's OUR game and therefore we should try to agree with eachother before making a change. Try to be a little openminded.
I'm sorry if I made you think that I was trying to argue with you, I really wasn't. I was mearly trying to get to a point where we agreed with something
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posted January 03, 2006 03:00 PM

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Actually I was trying to make you see that maybe not everyone agrees with your ideas, and maybe others have better ones. HOMM it's not your game, it's OUR game and therefore we should try to agree with eachother before making a change. Try to be a little openminded.
I'm sorry if I made you think that I was trying to argue with you, I really wasn't. I was mearly trying to get to a point where we agreed with something

Well you see noone said anything exept you. And noone makes you to download Quicksilver if you don't like it..
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posted January 03, 2006 03:41 PM

Just like kids... ;P
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posted January 03, 2006 04:07 PM
Edited by greek_god_superman on 3 Jan 2006

From my point of view: Do animals have a soul? How about plants?
We canīt know but at least we know they are still living, they are alive. So why should dendroids and plants (donīt even know what plant are you talking about ) be non-living?
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posted January 03, 2006 05:52 PM

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Why Super -upgrade?


Ok, second upgrade...
In your page you have written:
6.Wyvern -> Wyvern Monarch -> Doomdrake

So-why?

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posted January 03, 2006 06:03 PM

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Why Super -upgrade?


Ok, second upgrade...
In your page you have written:
6.Wyvern -> Wyvern Monarch -> Doomdrake

So-why?

Because I want every town to have 5 second upgrades and for Wyvern were was no other choise...So...And if you look in dictionary you will notice that Wyvern means Dragon...
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posted January 03, 2006 06:11 PM

Little note - this "doomdrake" looks for me for stronger than hydras ;]
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posted January 03, 2006 07:22 PM

True, in most fantasy games Wyverns are small evil dragons. I think the Wraiths from Lord of the Rings also ride those...?
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posted January 03, 2006 07:35 PM

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Why Super -upgrade?


Ok, second upgrade...
In your page you have written:
6.Wyvern -> Wyvern Monarch -> Doomdrake

So-why?

Because I want every town to have 5 second upgrades and for Wyvern were was no other choise...So...And if you look in dictionary you will notice that Wyvern means Dragon...


He's too powerful to be second upgrade of wyvern, besides he looks more like an bone dragon than wyvern...

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posted January 03, 2006 08:35 PM

I explained the reason...so...
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posted January 04, 2006 02:14 PM

Somebody put the "philosophy" rating for this thread - and he was right! LOL

@ BIGJOCKER:

I'm not sure if it's possible at HC to change the title of the topic, but you should try; "New Patch" sounds vague - there are several new patches now... If it can be done, change it to "Quicksilver - New WoG Patch" or something like that.
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posted January 04, 2006 02:53 PM

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Somebody put the "philosophy" rating for this thread - and he was right! LOL

@ BIGJOCKER:

I'm not sure if it's possible at HC to change the title of the topic, but you should try; "New Patch" sounds vague - there are several new patches now... If it can be done, change it to "Quicksilver - New WoG Patch" or something like that.

I tried..But it's not changing...(Moderators...!!!)

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posted January 04, 2006 04:38 PM

It cant be changed the thread name. I can only try to move it to WoG forumas a new thread but I dont know what will happens
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