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Thread: ULTIMATE CONSOLE BATTLE!!!
mvassilev
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posted September 19, 2005 01:26 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 23:53, 29 Jun 2006.

ULTIMATE CONSOLE BATTLE!!!

Part 1:


In this corner... we have the NES!



In this corner... ... ... we have the Sega "Master" System...



In this corner, we have the pre-SNES Genesis!

Graphics (in general): Genesis>"Master" System>NES
Games: NES>Genesis>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Master" System
Controller: Genesis>NES>"Master" System
Overall: NES>Genesis>>>>>>>>>"Master System
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted September 27, 2005 12:31 PM

Nice idea, but mvass has given it a rest...


Playstation Portable


Ninetendo Dual Screen

GAMES
PSP/DS (Wipeout Pure/GTA/Final Fantasy vs Super Mario Bros./Metroid Prime/Wario Ware Touched) Pretty equal. More kids games on DS whereas there is more mature games on PSP)

CONTROLS
DS>>>PSP (Joystick vs. Touch Screen)

FEATURES
PSP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS (Music/Video/Internet Access/Add ons vs Pictochat/Calendar/Organizer)

LOOKS
PSP>>>>DS (Black with Silver vs. Plain Silver)

GRAPHICS
PSP>>>>>>>>>>DS

OVERALL
PSP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS (However it depends on the audience. Kids might prefer DS games)

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mvassilev
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posted September 27, 2005 01:59 PM
Edited by mvassilev at 21:18, 23 Jun 2006.

I can't believe you compared the PSP and DS. PSP is better in every way.

NEXT!

Turbografx-16 vs. SNES vs. Genesis + Sega CD + 32X


Turbografx-16


Genesis + Sega CD + 32X


SNES

Graphics (in general):32X>Sega CD>SNES>Genesis>Turbografx 16
Games: SNES>Genesis combo>Turbografx 16
Controller: SNES>Genesis combo>Turbografx 16
Overall: SNES>Gennesis combo>Turbografx 16
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posted June 23, 2006 11:01 PM

NES and SNES will forever be the best consoles in existence.
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posted June 23, 2006 11:30 PM

You're crazy. Every good NES/SNES game can be found in GBA/PS1/PS2/GC/Xbox compilations.
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posted June 24, 2006 12:03 AM

amateurs...

PC rules all
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posted June 24, 2006 09:29 AM

PC games are and will be forever the best. I doubt it that you guys play HOMM on a console!
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LummoxLewis
posted June 24, 2006 10:27 AM
Edited by william at 10:35, 24 Jun 2006.

XBOX AND PS2





Here are the statistics for both the Xbox and PS2 and I will name which one has better stats and stuff.

Xbox Specs
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   * Name
   * Xbox

   * Type
   * Game console

   * Weight
   * 8.8 lbs

   * Color
   * Black

   * Height
   * 3.1 in

   * Width
   * 11.8 in

   * Depth
   * 7.1 in

   * Media Type
   * DVD-ROM

Processor

   * Type
   * Intel Pentium III 733 MHz

   * Instruction set
   * X86-to-RISC

Memory / Storage

   * RAM installed size
   * 64 MB

   * Cache size
   * 128 KB

   * HDD Capacity
   * 8 GB

Video

   * Video Output
   * 256-bit 2D/3D graphics acceleration

   * Supported Video
   * NTSC S-Video Installed, Component video Installed, Composite video Installed

   * Max resolution (external)
   * 1920 x 1080

   * Graphic Effects
   * Shadows, Fog effects, Pixel Shaders, Vertex Shaders, Texture lighting, Bilinear filtering, Trilinear filtering

   * Fill Rate
   * 4000 million pixels/sec

Memory

   * Max supported RAM
   * 64 MB

   * RAM technology
   * DDR SDRAM

Audio

   * Sound Output Mode
   * Stereo

Input Device

   * Input device type
   * Game pad

Display

   * Type
   * None.

   * Display (projector) type
   * None.

Telecom

   * Max transfer rate
   * 100 Mbps

Memory Card

   * Type
   * Flash

   * Color
   * Black

Expansion / Connectivity

   * Total free slots
   * 2

Power

   * Operational power consumption
   * 100 Watt

   * Battery
   * None

   * Power device frequency required
   * 60 Hz

   * Voltage Required
   * ± 10% 60 Hz

Communications

   * Modem / Comm.
   * Integrated

Connections

   * Input/Output connections
   * 1 x Xbox AV output (Xbox AV connector), 4 x Game controller (RJ-45), 1 x Network

   * Expansion Slot(s) Total (Free)
   * 2 2 Installed Memory


Thats the xbox specs.
Now here is the ps2 specs



PS2 SPECS
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PlayStation 2 System Features and Specifications*

*Updated for model number SCPH-39001

CPU: 128-bit CPU
System Clock Frequency: 294.912 MHz
Cache Memory: Instruction: 16KB, Data: 8KB + 16 K(ScrP)
Main Memory: Direct Rambus (Direct RDRAM)
Memory Size: 32MB
Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2GB per second

Co-processor:
FPU (Floating Point Unit)
Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 1
Floating Point Divider x 1

Vector Units:
VU0 and VU1
Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 9
Floating Point Divider x 3

Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
3D CG Geometric Transformation: 66 million Polygons per Second
Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG2

GRAPHICS

Graphics Synthesizer™

Clock Frequency: 147.456MHz
Embedded DRAM: 4MB
DRAM Bus Bandwidth: 48GB per second
DRAM Bus Width: 2,560 bits
Pixel Configuration: RGB:Alpha:Z Buffer (24:8:32)
Polygon Drawing Rate: 75 million Polygons per second
Screen Resolution: Variable from 256 x 224 to 1280 x 1024

SOUND: “SPU2 + CPU”

Number of Voices: ADPCM: 48 ch on SPU2 plus definable, software programmable voices

Sound Memory: 2MB
Output Frequency: Variable up to 48 KHz (DAT quality)


IOP: I/O Processor

CPU Core: PlayStation (current) CPU (R3000)

Clock Frequency: 33.8688MHz or 36.864MHz (selectable; PlayStation/PlayStation 2 mode)

IOP Memory: 2MB

Sub Bus: 32-bit

Interface Types: IEEE1394 i.LINK, Universal Serial Bus (USB) x2, Controller Port x2, Memory Card slots x 2

DISC DEVICE: CD-ROM and DVD-ROM
Device Speed: ROM 24x / DVD-ROM 4x

ADDITIONAL FEATURES

Drive Bay (for 3.5” hard disc drive)
Expansion Bay (for network peripherals)
DVD Player software built in; no memory card required to play DVDs.

GENERAL

Power Requirements: 120V AC, 60 Hz
Power Consumption: 79W

Dimensions (approx.):
301 x 78 x 182 mm (w/h/d)
(12 x 3-1/8 x 7-1/4 inches)

Mass (approx.):
2.2 kg (4 lbs. 14 oz)

Operating Temperature:
41°F-95°F (5°C-35°C)

Laser Diode Properties:
• Material: GaAlAs
• Wavelength: l = 650/780nm

INPUTS/OUTPUTS – CONSOLE FRONT

• Controller ports (2)
• Memory Card slots (2)
• USB Connector (2)
• S400 i.LINK connector (1)

OUTPUTS – CONSOLE REAR

• AV Multi Out connector (1)
• Digital Out (Optical) connector (1)
• Expansion Bay (1)



IMHO I think that Xbox will overshadow the PS2 anyday, but its your decision here members, you may decide what console is the best.
But XBOX WILL RULE ANYDAY IMO!!!




EDIT: Here is the Gamecube, as some people may think that GC is better than ps2 and Xbox but yeah.
Here is the picture and its stats:



Gamecube

Thanks to the cross-platform gaming engine at its core and the way in which the processor and disk drive operate totally in sync, the GameCube from Nintendo provides a richly satisfying gaming experience and loading times are barely noticeable. Despite being just 3" in diameter, Gamecube discs contain up to 1.5Gb of information - massively expanding gameplay potential. The unique design is equally innovative and compact.

Features

   • Contemporary cube shape
   • 4 controller ports
   • 2 memory card slots
   • Capacity for future modem/broadband connection
   • 485MHz custom CPU with 162MHz custom graphics processor
   • 40MB total memory; 2.6 GB per second memory bandwidth
   • 12M polygons per second; texture read bandwidth 10.4 GB per second
   • 64 audio channels
   • Dimensions 4.5" x 5.9" x 6.3"

Technical Data

ATI Flipper

   • 162 MHz
   • 4 pixel pipelines
   • 1 texel per pixel pipeline
   • 4 texels per clock cycle (4 pixels with 1 texel per pixel)
   • Maximum of 8 texture layers per rendering pass (done in 8 clock cycles)
   • 650 megapixels per second
   • 650 megatexels per second
   • Point, Bilinear, Trilinear, Anisotropic Mip-Map Filtering
   • Perspective-Correct Texture Mapping
   • Bump Mapping
   • Environment Mapping
   • 24-bit Z Buffer
   • S3TC Texture Compression
   • Subpixel Anti-Aliasing
   • Geometry and Lighting Engine
   • 33 million polygons per second (peak)
   • 6 million to 12 million polygons per second (with effects)
   • Hidden Surface Removal (HSR) based on early Z-test
   • Virtual Texture Design
   • 2MB Embedded Frame Buffer
   • 1MB Embedded Texture Cache
   • 10.4 gigabytes per second texture cache read bandwidth
   • scene texture data stored in 24MB 1T-SRAM main memory
   • 8.6 GFLOPS
   • Custom Macronix 16-bit DSP Sound Processor
   • 81 MHz
   • 64 voices
   • ADPCM encoding
   • sound data stored in 16MB A-Memory

IBM Gekko CPU

   • PowerPC
   • 485 MHz
   • 32-bit integer
   • 64-bit floating-point
   • 64KB L1 cache (32KB instruction + 32KB data)
   • 256KB L2 cache
   • 1125 Dhrystone 2.1 MIPS
   • 1.94 GFLOPS

CPU external bus

   • 64 bits wide
   • 162 MHz
   • 1.3 gigabytes per second bandwidth

Main Memory

   • 24 Megabytes MoSys 1T-SRAM
   • 64 bits wide
   • 325 MHz
   • 325 megabits per second per pin
   • 2.6 gigabytes per second bandwidth

A-Memory

   • 16 Megabytes DRAM
   • 8 bits wide
   • 81 MHz
   • 81 megabits per second per pin
   • 81 megabytes per second bandwidth

Storage

   • 3-inch Optical Disc Technology (1.5 gigabytes)
   • memory cards

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Gom_Jabbar
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posted June 24, 2006 12:03 PM

Hmmmm... Long... but useless. Seems like copy/paste still works haaaa
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted June 24, 2006 12:04 PM

umm actually that wasnt useless.
It was quite informative for people who are interested in games console producing or people interested in seeing whats in consoles and all of the technical nitty gritty.

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posted June 25, 2006 05:03 PM

Everyone who fits said description say 'aye'!
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posted June 26, 2006 04:23 AM

AYE! I'm a gamecube addict. But it's bing overshadowed by the wii now. I hate the "wii". It's a stupid name too. (pronounced,"wee")



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posted June 26, 2006 11:57 AM

Xbox owns all the competition of it's era, being the latest released of the generation.


XBOX 360 is the first of the next gen, and who knows what will be the best.
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LummoxLewis
posted June 26, 2006 12:16 PM

Well Xbox rules the competition because it has one thing that all the other consoles do not have.
Thats DirectX, which is microsoft  made, and is therefore implemented into Xbox which is Microsoft.
PS2 is developed by Sony and Gamecube by Nintendo and both of these major league companies do not have DirectX.
Thats the major downside to Gamecube and PS2 because they do not have as good graphics as Xbox has.

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posted June 29, 2006 11:59 PM

Next, we have the PS1 vs. Saturn vs. N64

PS1


Saturn


N64


Graphics: N64=PS1>Saturn(but not by much, Saturn is the best in 2D)
Games: PS1>N64>Saturn
Controller: PS1>Saturn>N64
Overall: PS1>N64>Saturn
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posted June 30, 2006 01:11 AM

OK.. about william's post on Xbox360 vs. PS2

Controllers
PS2>>>XBox360

Games available
PS2>>>>XBox360

Compactability
PS2>>>>Xbox360

I don't care about better graphics, and I think it's a downside that microsoft made XBox since i'm sure it has more bugs than any other consule.

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posted June 30, 2006 08:33 AM

Graphics
1. N64
2. PS1
3. Saturn

Games
=1. N64/PS1
3. Saturn

Controllers
1. N64 (because of their durability)
=2. Saturn/PS1

N64 wins hands down.
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mvassilev
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posted July 14, 2006 01:41 AM

Quote:
Graphics
1. N64
2. PS1
3. Saturn


Yes, but can N64 have FMVs like the PS1? Didn't think so.

Quote:
Controllers
1. N64 (because of their durability)
=2. Saturn/PS1

N64 wins hands down.


I have never had any controller of any console break. As for the N64 controller, it's simply stupidly designed (IMO).

NEXT ROUND!!!

Dreamcast
vs.
PS2
vs.
Gamecube
vs.
Xbox


Dreamcast


PS2


Gamecube


Xbox

Graphics: Xbox>PS2>Gamecube>Dreamcast
Controller: PS2>Xbox>Dreamcast>Gamecube
Games: PS2>Xbox>Dreamcast>Gamecube
Online: PS2=Xbox>Dreamcast>Gamecube
Overall: PS2>Xbox>Dreamcast>Gamecube
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LummoxLewis
posted July 14, 2006 02:14 AM

I already posted about Xbox vs ps2 vs Gamecube, what was the point in reposting it
Anyway Xbox is stil the better in this competition, mainly because of the "newness" of it, and its being newer than ps2 and gamecube, and the graphics with xbox is very very good.
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posted July 14, 2006 03:14 AM

Quote:
I already posted about Xbox vs ps2 vs Gamecube, what was the point in reposting it
Anyway Xbox is stil the better in this competition, mainly because of the "newness" of it, and its being newer than ps2 and gamecube, and the graphics with xbox is very very good.



Graphics aren't everything.

Wait, I need to clarify that.

GRAPHICS AREN'T EVERYTHING! The gameplay of the games is more important. How are you supposed to play a game with great graphics with a sucky controller?
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