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Jebus
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posted October 01, 2005 06:36 PM

..is why I suggested to K
to put this elsewhere than VW!!

(I was impressed how accurate mine was!)


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posted October 04, 2005 07:39 PM

quick update

Korejora, 2Xtreme, and Mvassilev are next up for readings.  (I was going to say "on deck," but that would be a horrible, horrible pun, so I'll spare you...oh, too late.  )

Also, it's October!  Time to break out the Halloween Tarot deck.  It features the same general pictures but has a Halloween theme.  Also, there's a black cat somewhere in every card.    If anyone wants a more, um, "festive" look to their reading, just ask.  
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posted October 04, 2005 10:36 PM

Could i have a perverted one?
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posted October 07, 2005 03:01 AM
Edited By: Khaelo on 6 Oct 2005

A perverted reading?  What's that mean?  


For Korejora:
1) What is going on right now
2) What you need to focus on
3) Hidden factors
4) Advice
5) Near future

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A few mechanics first.  The attentive observer will note that these illustrations are somewhat different than the previous ones.    This is the Gilded Tarot deck.  The differences between decks aren't terribly important to a querant (you) -- the general meanings remain the same, although the shades can vary a bit.  For a reader, different artists' interpretations can be illuminating.  Anyway, I decided to take the Gilded out but was going to post pictures from the "normal" deck (Universal Waite)...but a bunch of the same cards turned up as in Conan and Jebus's readings!  So, different pictures this time around, just to keep things interesting.

The extra card is one that refused to get off the table while I was shuffling, so it gets to be included in the reading.  

All right.  Korejora,
Your first card, "What is going on right now," is the Two of Wands.  This indicates a beginning and choices you have to make.  Opportunity has opened several doors.  You're at the stage of planning and deciding how to proceed.  That means you will have to wait before seeing your plans come to fruit, but the first steps are underway.  The card is generally optimistic about your situation.  Wands are connected to elemental Fire, which covers inspiration, passion, energy, ideas.  There are two ways to take that: The beginning may be occuring in the realm of ideas and inspiration, or inspiration and energy will carry you through this period of decisions and waiting.

Your second card is The Star, as "What you need to focus on."  The Star is optimism and hope, trust, faith in the future, and all kinds of other good stuff.    Given the positive outlook of the first card, this one is continuing the theme, maybe carrying that hope to a more spiritual level.

Your third card, the Hermit, represents "Hidden factors." These are things you either haven't seen or haven't looked at closely.  The Hermit can indicate solitude and introspection (see Jebus's Hermit ), but I don't see that here.  The Two of Wands indicates a journey, metaphorical or otherwise.  The Gilded Hermit stands on a path, holding out a lantern to light the way.  Therefore, in this situation, I'm going to guess that the Hermit is someone who can help you in the enterprise that you're starting in Two of Wands.  The card may indicate a guide for you, someone who might be a bit hard for you to find or reach -- which may be why they're a "hidden factor" -- but whose wisdom will prove invaluable.

Your "Advice" card is the Ace of Swords.  This one puzzles me, particularly as it relates to advice.  My book says: Aces are the purest cards of their suit, and Swords are connected to intellect, logic, mental agility, conflict, cutting out the deadwood, and strength (the mind as a steel trap).  The key phrase for this card is "strength in adversity," and it can indicate the beginning of an intellectual enterprise.  It can also mean turning a bad situation into something promising.

I don't know why intelligence is Swords and ideas are Wands.  Ideas seem quite connected to intelligence to me.  In this case, though, the overlap may be useful since both Ace of Swords and Two of Wands indicate the beginning of ideas.  I really hope that Two of Wands is accurate for you, because it's dominating my interpretation of the rest of the cards.  

Fifth card: Four of Pentacles as the "near future."  This card indicates stability, security, and "holding tight."  It's immobile compared to the Wands and Swords.  I don't know what it's doing here.  Maybe it means that nothing big is coming up soon, that the start-up energies will take a while to build?

Finally, while I was shuffling for the last time, one card stuck to the table instead of being picked up with the rest of the deck.  This kind of thing is typically considered as a card crying for attention.    So, here's Strength.  The meaning is pretty obvious; it implies inner strength, self-confidence, moral fortitude.  It can also mean patience, assertiveness, and winning one's way through gentle persuasion rather than brute force (in most decks, the woman is taming the lion with a rope of flowers and a gentle touch). There isn't really a set position for "stuck on the table," so you can take this one however you'd like.    I'm inclined to think of it as an advice card alongside the Ace of Swords -- maybe that your strength in adversity will be this kind of self-contained confidence and persuasive power.

Hope you find this interesting, Korejora.  

Edit: fixed code & alignment of card images.
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TheRealDeal
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posted October 07, 2005 11:10 PM

Perverted Reading.. C'moon.. Use your imaginenation.. i'll sure use mine

Could be fun...
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posted October 08, 2005 01:21 AM

Well im glad that no one so far has had the death card


And mine is next!!!
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Svarog
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posted October 08, 2005 03:05 AM

Khaelo, you old Gypsy, can you do me as well? I'm in a pretty turbulent period with lots of potentials, so I could make use of this psycho-thing, cos u know I dont believe a word about its prophetic powers.
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posted October 11, 2005 08:57 AM
Edited By: Khaelo on 11 Oct 2005

Housekeeping:
Current lineup is
1) 2Xtreme  (in this post)
2) mvassilev
3) RealDeal
4) Svarog

Questions are welcome (within limits: no third-party questions, for example).  There are a number of "advice" spreads in my cardring.

That perverted reading:  I'm not sure my skills are up to it.  One has to have a decent grasp on basic meanings before one can pervert them.    However, there exist perverted decks which could keep you busy for a quite a while.    Alas, they're a little...okay, a lot...too perverted for CoC-friendly links.  You can do your own "research."

I apologize for being so slow.  Real life is being a pesky interferance again.  Also, the five-card readings take too much time, so I am now doing three-card readings.  Sorry for those who like playing Death Card Roulette.  

On the subject of Death Card Roulette, if you want to play repeatedly, there are free computer-generated readings at http://www.llewellyn.com/free/tarot.php.

Onward...


General reading for 2ExtremeToTake:

1) Situation
2) Advice
3) Outcome

1) Page of Swords

2) 3 of Wands

3) The Moon


Your situation card is the Page of Swords.  The Page of Swords, as a personality type, indicates a child or teen with a lot of brains.  As a situation, it suggests that quick thinking and wit may be required of you.  Pages in general can indicate messages, news, or incoming information.  This particular Page can signify spying and/or diplomacy...or in a more everyday context, gossip and rumors.  This is a Page in motion, so the situation may be quite volatile.

The advice is the Three of Wands.  We saw the Two of Wands earlier as the planning stage of an enterprise; the Three of Wands indicates the part where things start happening.  The image is that of the medieval merchant watching his ships sail away -- they could bring back great wealth or they could never be seen again.  Threes, generally, can mean co-operation and teamwork.  So, as advice, this card could mean that things are in motion already.  It could indicate forming an alliance or partnership (business/work type).  The book also says, "This is a good time to publicize your creative accomplishments."  I guess you need to drum up people to buy your stuff when those ships come back.  

These two cards would be a lot easier to interpret if the 3 of Wands were the situation and the Page were the advice.  Ah, well.

The outcome: The Moon.  This is a pretty complex card, but most of the things it signifies make no sense in the rest of the reading.  It's a card of mysteries, lies, deceit, illusions, confusion (moonlight is deceptive), the feral side of the universe (the wolf vs. the dog).  It can mean dreams.  Hidden things are starting to bubble to the surface (crawfish coming up from the pool), and not everything you see is true (face in the moon).

In this context, my first inclination is to interpret it as "the outcome is a mystery."  

Trying to tie this together:  The only connecting theme appears to be uncertainty.  Not helpful, I know.    The Page of Swords suggests a situation of motion and quick changes.  The Three of Wands shows a situation where an enterprise is underway, but the end results are still unknown, and not completely under your control.  That rather limits its usefullness as an advice card.  And the Moon is the uncertainty card par excellance.  The gossip/rumors aspect of the Page can also apply to the Moon, but I can't think of a useful interpretation for that connection.

I might try to give you another reading, 2Xtreme, because this one didn't turn out so well, at least as far as I can tell.  Maybe it's because I'm trying to do it at 2 am.  
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posted October 11, 2005 01:08 PM

Im just wondering, why is each reading have different categories??? Like mine only had 3, but Korejoras had 5 etc..
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posted October 11, 2005 07:13 PM
Edited By: Khaelo on 11 Oct 2005

different categories

I'm using different spreads.  A "spread" is how many cards are laid out, what pattern they form, and what each position meaning is.  The classic spread is the Celtic Cross, which involves ten cards.  Three- to five-card spreads are simpler than that, obviously.    

The drop from five to three cards is because I just don't have time to do five-cards anymore -- they take about an hour to write up.    The three-card ones only take half an hour, more or less.

Because all of the readings thus far are general, there hasn't been a whole lot of difference between spreads.  Something like, say, a relationship spread would have categories designed to specifically address relationship issues.
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posted October 15, 2005 09:29 PM
Edited By: Khaelo on 15 Oct 2005

Lineup:
1) Mvassilev (in post)
2) RealDeal (in post)
3) Svarog

Deck of the day: International Icon.  No "Happy Squirrel" in play.  


General reading for Mvassilev:
1) Situation -- 7 of Cups
2) Advice -- The Emperor
3) Outcome -- 10 of Coins



7 of Cups as a situation indicates a lot of dreaming and planning going on, not all of which is realistic.  The card suggests that you have your head in the clouds.  My book - and the picture - indicate a bewildering variety of choices before you.  My inclination with this card has been that the individual is fantasizing about their future more than they're doing anything about it.  That's not bad, per se.  Grand plans are the beginning of grand successes.  But they're not enough.  The card strongly implies a lack of focus.

Which brings us to the Emperor as your advice.  Direct action and influence are his forte.    He's organized and responsible, energetic, structured.  Think of a king, taking charge, getting things done.  This is the attitude this card recommends -- focused, directed will.

10 of Coins (Pentacles) as your Outcome is really good.  It indicates material abundance, coming "home," ending the cycle, and recieving the fruit of your work.  The dreamy Cups have become solid Coins.

This strikes me as a pretty straightforward reading, not too many complications.  


Generally Twisted reading for RealDeal:
1) Situation -- 4 of Cups
2) Advice -- 2 of Cups
3) Outcome -- 3 of Wands



With 4 of Cups as your situation, you clearly have issues with floating beverages.  Have you noticed any levitating slurpies following you around?  Hovering beers?  Flying spirits?  You appear to be closing yourself off to these gifts.  Even if you've already had three drinks, another can't hurt.  

In fact, you should share this drink with a cute girl.  Try a few corny come-on lines and a lot of refills.  Nothing says "hot date" like mutual hallucinations of flying red beasties.

Alas, the affair will be dream-like (if you remember it at all!) but brief.  You will be left gazing upon the ocean orange with nothing but three sticks for company.  They may help you stay vertical, but they make poor drinking buddies.  Maybe you should take up hiking instead.  

Edit: formatting


Edit Again:  Accuracy Test
For anyone keeping track...

I did a couple of brief readings for myself regarding a pair of job interviews I did last week.  The reading for Job A was highly, highly favorable in pretty much every way:  likelihood of getting offered the job, competancy and satisfaction with job if I got it, hidden influences, etc.  The reading for Job B was quite bad on the same fronts, particularly how happy I'd be at the job.  It indicated overwork.  In real life, I think that I would be much happier at Job A but am more likely to be offered Job B (they're more desperate for people).  The readings seem to think that I'll get the job I want; I think I'll get the job I don't (but will accept anyway because a bad job is better than no job ).

Stay tuned to find out who's right: common sense or the cards!  
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posted October 16, 2005 07:10 PM

The alcohol part about me was 100 % accurate that was pretty wicked.
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posted October 18, 2005 08:09 PM

Psycho-thing reading for Svarog:
Fishing Spread
1) Worm: What you offer the universe
2) Fish: What you might catch / what the universe offers you
3) Meal: What you can make of it / advice

1) Knight of Swords
2) The Hermit (again?!?)
3) 5 of Pentacles


This is the International Icon deck, again.  I don't know what's up with all these Hermits.    The decks I'm showing you are the same decks I'm actually using, so it's not just bad shuffling.

The worm you offer the universe is the Knight of Swords.  All of the Swords court are intellectual, and the Knight is aggressive to boot.  He's the one who goes charging into a fight/debate.  He may not stick around for long -- patience and persistance aren't this Knight's strong points -- but he makes a splash while he's there.  He can be a hero or a rabble-rouser, depending on where you stand when you see him coming.    Speed and mental agility are his defining characteristics.  {Side note: at least one Greek myth deck connects the Knight of Swords to Athena, if that gives you some idea of "his" character.  )

I am not surprised to see this card turn up for you, Svarog.    At least as far as you come across online, this is the court card I'd have picked to describe you.

The fish you're likely to catch with this worm (or what the universe offers you):  The Hermit.  Isolation, guru on mountain, teacher, spiritual retreat, etc.  The Knight needs maturity, wisdom, and experience to become the more stable and formidable King of Swords.  The Hermit may be a guide to wisdom, someone who recognizes the Knight's potential, or some enlightening event that will be a catalyst to the Knight's maturity.  Compared to the Knight's activity, the Hermit is quite passive.  He could represent a tempering (gentling) influence on the volitile Knight.

The natural progression of this sequence would be, I'd think, the King of Swords.  But no.  The deck has offered the 5 of Pentacles, which is the traditional poverty card.    I'm all kinds of confused here.  So, dragging out a book again..."The Five of Pentacles can offer some tough wisdom, advising you to let go of your attachments and to live more simply."  It goes on to suggest tests of self-discipline, "simplicity, renunciation, and abstinence.  It may be that you have to put up with some physical discomfort in order to gain more personal spiritual rewards."  While I can see a connection there with the Hermit, I don't see a progression, which is what the spread is meant to show.  Take this with a grain of salt.

I pulled a clarification card for this final position ("what you can make of catch") and turned up the Tower.      

Like the 5 of Pentacles, this isn't a card you really want to see.  (Good thing you've ditched the whole prophetic belief.  )  On the other hand, as advice, it reinforces the "simplify, man!" theme of the 5 and the Hermit.    The Tower is being catastrophically destroyed, but in traditional interpretations it is the Tower of Babel.  (Taken within its mythological context) The pride, ambition, and arrogance that it represents are things that need to be leveled.  The Tower can also symbolize illusions held dear.  The lightning destroys the lies while illuminating the truth.  Unhelpful beliefs, counterproductive habits, bad influences, etc., need to go so you can start building again from the basics, and maybe do it better the next time around.

Hope you find this interesting.  


I'm out of guinea pigs.  :sniff:   of thread?
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posted October 19, 2005 02:10 AM

Wow, i have to say I find this really scary. Everything makes so much sense. If I wasnt so darn stubborn skeptic about this whole tarot magic, this little treatment of yours would have changed my life forever.
I'll send you my thoughts on the subject over e-mail.
thanks a bunch.
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posted October 19, 2005 02:46 AM

Cool, know I'm curious... this is strange since the reading for Jebus also made alot of sense, because I personnaly know him... And so did mine.

Good job Khaelo!
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posted January 08, 2008 07:39 PM
Edited by Orfinn at 19:42, 08 Jan 2008.

Nice thread Can you read mine?

Anyway how can the Tarot Deck which came with Heroes Complete Edition be compared to these standard decks? Like theres no Hermit in the H5 deck, theres vampire and so on. And there are Temperance, Death as in the "normal" card decks here shown in this thread. I have big problems understand how to read them all since theres NO guide to the H5 Tarot Deck after what I know
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russ


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blah, blah, blah
posted January 14, 2008 05:22 PM

I want to try it too.

Btw, Elvin, our chances aren't all that good. The last time she posted was March 2007.

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posted January 14, 2008 09:18 PM

good morning thread revives.i want one too.altogh lest time i did one who am I i got knight of wands.
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posted January 16, 2008 12:26 AM

Well if this is still going, then I'd like one too. Pretty please...

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posted January 16, 2008 12:33 AM

Interesting.  I would also like a reading please.

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