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Lacus
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posted February 16, 2006 02:21 PM |
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Peoples Dislike of The Conflux
Forgive me if this question has been asked before but I was wondering if people could tell me why a number of people on this forum appear to not like The Conflux town in Heroes 3. Having no online play experience I am not sure if its too powerful or weak or something? Or is it just a feeling of a few players who have other more favourite factions?
I personally quite enjoy Conflux, two early game shooters and first level flying unit with no retaliation makes for a powerful faction I think early game. Then again maybe thats part of the reason why people seem to dislike it so much?
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Russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
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posted February 16, 2006 04:08 PM |
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It is overpowered. The only way to beat a conflux is with another conflux or a necropoilis on large maps.
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System_Error
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 16, 2006 11:44 PM |
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I, myself, not only dislike playing against it but playing with it as well. I can't explain why exactly. I just hate the race. Maybe because one can resurrect only 1st and 7th lvl creatures. Maybe it's because the race lacks variety (all you see is some ugly elementals). Maybe it's because it's overpowerd. Maybe it's all of these reasons.
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c0ldshadow
Known Hero
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posted February 17, 2006 02:47 AM |
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conflux is just too nasty. the 4 phoenixes a week is unfair and the magic university is godly. if conflux gets armageddon it is game over too most of the time since 4 of their troops are immune to it. they cant get armageddon in their mage guild but at other towns they can get it.
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Lacus
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posted February 17, 2006 03:21 AM |
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It is overpowered. The only way to beat a conflux is with another conflux or a necropoilis on large maps.
I am new to the online part of this game, can you explain why this is?
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Fofa
Famous Hero
Famous? Me?!
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posted February 17, 2006 03:22 AM |
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But you have to remember, Phoenixes aren't as strong as their counterparts.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted February 17, 2006 06:38 AM |
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Bless is a conflux friend,especially for storm elementals  .
I like the creatures in the conflux but like they said, it's too powerful.
So much immunity.
Phoenixes are the fastest in the game plus you get twice as many with fire immunity & rebirth.
Sprites no retaliation & so many then any lv 1 can be gruesome.
Storms if blessed can be over powerful with thier damage rate.
Magic elementals being immune to all & hitting all creatures near it can be tough.
University you can get all elemental skills.
Just a crazy town.
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LordZXZX
Famous Hero
Overfished
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posted February 17, 2006 07:00 AM |
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Also all their magic heroes comes guarenteed with a magic skill. Brissa can get Mass Haste by lv 3
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted February 17, 2006 07:29 AM |
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True but must also include the speed on the field.
Every scout can easily have plus 7 speed & Water Ele are the slowest but it probally would be good to wait to use them when upgraded.
Those who dont play tournaments or knows how to use the speed to thier advantage would love flux.
Of course other castle types can have faster speed scouts but Flux is all around fast.
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Fortress_fan
Disgraceful
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posted February 17, 2006 07:56 AM |
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I like Conflux. It is my second favourite town. (after Fortress) I think the reason that so many dont like it is that they are sic-fi fans who dont like that Conflux replaced the brain-washed Forge town.
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GabyStan
Known Hero
Seeking Wisdom
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posted February 17, 2006 08:20 AM |
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No need to add something, Aculias explained us comprehensivly how too powerful a race Conflux is. I'd play it time and time again if allowed, that's for sure...
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Evil_Warrior
Famous Hero
Duke of Demon
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posted February 17, 2006 12:02 PM |
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Some reasons why Conflux be the disliked :
1. Most of them can't be Rescurrected both by Rescurrection or Animate Dead.
2. Most of them have neutral morale. (not so good)
3. Low strength of level 1, 4, 5, and 7 creatures.
But actually, Conflux is one of the most effective town. It has Magic University, Level 5 Mage Guild, and Fastest growth of level 7. So Conflux is effective coz its building, not its creatures.
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Russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted February 17, 2006 04:27 PM |
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Some reasons why Conflux be the disliked :
1. Most of them can't be Rescurrected both by Rescurrection or Animate Dead.
2. Most of them have neutral morale. (not so good)
3. Low strength of level 1, 4, 5, and 7 creatures.
ROFL! Yet another toss by EvilWarrior. He actually outlined the reasons why the conflux is DISLIKED.  (For those who still can't belive their eyes - yes he did in fact give the reasons why the conflux is DISLIKED.)
I'd like to add some more reasons why people dislike conflux:
1) Very cheap armies - who the hell likes cheap armies? We want to overpay for those! Inferno is the way!!!
2) Very cheap dwellings - who the hell likes cheap dwells? We like expensive dwells!
3) Magic University - what a useless building! I mean: who would want to buy the magic schools of their choice? We'd rather take our chances, because then we can actually get a choice between Navigation and Eagle Eye skills!
4) Ballistas in the blacksmith - I mean: who in the world would ever want a ballista? Closer to the end game its damage is only about 5-10 times more than titan's and it costs a whole 1/2 the price of a titan! And who in the world would want the ballista's 250 hit points to distract the enemy in tough fights early on?
5) Artifact Merchants - well, that's another reason why conflux is so disliked. I mean: who would want to buy a set of nice artifacts? Everybody knows that artifacts are for p****es!
6) Sprites - who in the world would want a level 1 unit with 9 speed, 1-3 damage and no retaliation? After all it is the weakest level 1 unit! Just because you can kill legions of golems with those on day 1 doesn't mean they are strong.
7) Phoenixes - yes, as mentioned above - they are very weak! 2 of them only have 400 hit points, only do 60-80 damage, only have a speed of 21 and 2 useless specials such as rebirth and firebreath! They are also excessively overpriced - 2 of them will cost you an entire 4000 gold!
On the other hand their equivalent - ONE Arch Angel (the best non-conflux level 7) has entire 250 hit points, 50 damage, 18 speed and will only cost you 5000 gold. Their dwelling will also cost you extra 15000 gold and extra 40 precious resource - which is very good!
Yes, phoenixes are so weak, it is not even funny.
Oh, and for their armageddon and the other immunities - those are just useless.
8) Aurora borealis - I mean: who in the world would ever want all spells in their mage guild???
9) A level 6 creature immune to all magic that can hit all adjacent creatures? Who would want something as useless as that?
10) Who in the world would want creature specialists that are actually useful? Noone! This is why the conflux is disliked. Especially if one of them starts with logistics skill and specializes in the abovementioned level 6 unit (and we all know how useless that is!)
Ok, those are just a few points why conflux is disliked.
(And for those who didn't catch the sarcasm - don't take my post seriously - it is a joke.)
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GabyStan
Known Hero
Seeking Wisdom
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posted February 17, 2006 07:53 PM |
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Hehe, now Aculias AND Russ pointed out ALL reasons why you should NOT choose Conflux as your starting town.
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Lacus
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 17, 2006 09:15 PM |
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Fortress_fan
Disgraceful
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posted February 17, 2006 09:21 PM |
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I agree whit you! LOL! Conflux is balanced AND strong! 
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tigris
Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
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posted February 17, 2006 10:46 PM |
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Some reasons why Conflux be the disliked :
1. Most of them can't be Rescurrected both by Rescurrection or Animate Dead.
techinically you are right here.But...the thing is you don't have to use elementals that much in clearing the map.For exemple:I played a game with flux on E2.random hero ended up with grindan.Had luck and got SoO and 110 or so sprites day 1(3 native heroes+1 dwell). I was exp slow day 1!!.Was exp blind&forcefield day 4 !! I never used anything else but the sprites till week 4(but i did had +3 speed from arties though).Fighting with sprites only can be a really challange but NOT what i would recomend in a multiplayer game.That was indead a lucky situation mostly because of SoO, because morale is a pain in the butt whit sprites, but im sure you can do almost all week 1-2 fights(even archers if you play it cool) with only sprites.Then once you have pheonixes you have endless possibilities to clear the map. If you ask me i would only use earth elementals in tope fights or as fodder maybe in a tough fight.Blessed storm elem are the bomb as Acu said(better than GE even}. Also i never use ice elem/energy elem for clearing the map. No point in that.I can imagine one can do some cool fights with psichic elem aswell, bus since they can't be influenced by spells, you risk losing some, so i don't use them, only in endfight.
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2. Most of them have neutral morale. (not so good)
well at least you won't take leadership then 
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3. Low strength of level 1, 4, 5, and 7 creatures.
low strength on lvl 3,4,5 and 7 i think it's more acurate.But since you won't be using lvl 3,4,5,6 in fights across the map means you will have many in endfight.
anyways flux is too powerfull IMHO. for many reasons, and being able to kill some 85 ancients with lvl 1 only is a good enough reason for me.
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GabyStan
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posted February 18, 2006 12:46 AM |
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LOL 85 Ancient Behemoths, Tigris? If so, with mass Slow/Berserk and now many Sprites?
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted February 18, 2006 05:59 AM |
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Talk to Bjorn190 how to beat over 80 AB with Lizards & forcefield LOL.
Mirror image too if you want to throw that in but even that was not nessary lol.
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Evil_Warrior
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Duke of Demon
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posted February 18, 2006 12:31 PM |
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Some reasons why Conflux be the disliked :
1. Most of them can't be Rescurrected both by Rescurrection or Animate Dead.
2. Most of them have neutral morale. (not so good)
3. Low strength of level 1, 4, 5, and 7 creatures.
ROFL! Yet another toss by EvilWarrior. He actually outlined the reasons why the conflux is DISLIKED. (For those who still can't belive their eyes - yes he did in fact give the reasons why the conflux is DISLIKED.)
I'd like to add some more reasons why people dislike conflux:
1) Very cheap armies - who the hell likes cheap armies? We want to overpay for those! Inferno is the way!!!
2) Very cheap dwellings - who the hell likes cheap dwells? We like expensive dwells!
3) Magic University - what a useless building! I mean: who would want to buy the magic schools of their choice? We'd rather take our chances, because then we can actually get a choice between Navigation and Eagle Eye skills!
4) Ballistas in the blacksmith - I mean: who in the world would ever want a ballista? Closer to the end game its damage is only about 5-10 times more than titan's and it costs a whole 1/2 the price of a titan! And who in the world would want the ballista's 250 hit points to distract the enemy in tough fights early on?
5) Artifact Merchants - well, that's another reason why conflux is so disliked. I mean: who would want to buy a set of nice artifacts? Everybody knows that artifacts are for p****es!
6) Sprites - who in the world would want a level 1 unit with 9 speed, 1-3 damage and no retaliation? After all it is the weakest level 1 unit! Just because you can kill legions of golems with those on day 1 doesn't mean they are strong.
7) Phoenixes - yes, as mentioned above - they are very weak! 2 of them only have 400 hit points, only do 60-80 damage, only have a speed of 21 and 2 useless specials such as rebirth and firebreath! They are also excessively overpriced - 2 of them will cost you an entire 4000 gold!
On the other hand their equivalent - ONE Arch Angel (the best non-conflux level 7) has entire 250 hit points, 50 damage, 18 speed and will only cost you 5000 gold. Their dwelling will also cost you extra 15000 gold and extra 40 precious resource - which is very good!
Yes, phoenixes are so weak, it is not even funny.
Oh, and for their armageddon and the other immunities - those are just useless.
8) Aurora borealis - I mean: who in the world would ever want all spells in their mage guild???
9) A level 6 creature immune to all magic that can hit all adjacent creatures? Who would want something as useless as that?
10) Who in the world would want creature specialists that are actually useful? Noone! This is why the conflux is disliked. Especially if one of them starts with logistics skill and specializes in the abovementioned level 6 unit (and we all know how useless that is!)
Ok, those are just a few points why conflux is disliked.
(And for those who didn't catch the sarcasm - don't take my post seriously - it is a joke.)
I HAD SAID that actually Conflux is effective town. You just post reply to HALF of my post. CAN'T YOU READ MY POST WITH MORE ATTENTION?
C A N ' T Y O U ?
Thanks!
It is only a 'joke' too
For Tigris, I usually build my leadership. But it is useless when play with Conflux and Necro. But again, Necro's troop can be rescurrected by animate dead. Conflux can't.
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