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Lord_Woock
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posted October 29, 2007 09:22 PM |
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Quote: That could never happen to us Humans or to animals. If an animal mates with another animal not of its exact species, the result will be a sterile creature. Because of this evolution is impossible.
And where did you get the idea that evolution comes from cross-species mating? Please, if you're going to attempt to disprove something, at least read up a little.
As I already mentioned, evolution is a slow process of random mistakes in replicating DNA, aka mutations. This does not imply cross-species mating, but merely that no cells - not human's not a dog's, not a parakeet's - are infallible. Due to the sophistication of mammals (for example), the vast majority of mutations cause severe damage, but there still do occur beneficial ones.
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posted October 29, 2007 09:27 PM |
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If a mutation mate with someone, the outcome will be sterile. Therefore it is impossible to mutate an entire race like that among Humans and animals. Accept the fact that God created us, and we are not animals but the crown of His creation!
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posted October 29, 2007 09:32 PM |
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Ah, now I saw that you are 15. I don't know about Swedish schools, but by our system, you should learn about evolutionism in about a year or two. Then, maybe you'll understand that species is actually an artificial term invented by humanity to make understanding of the biosphere easier. The line between two closely related species is not as sharp and clear as you may think it is.
Come back in two years. Maybe then you'll be less perplexed about a dachshund and pitbull being the same species, canis domesticus.
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posted October 29, 2007 09:49 PM |
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If they are anything like Finnish ones he should have learned it already...
By the way wasn't KD swedish
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posted October 29, 2007 10:00 PM |
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Edited by Geny at 22:00, 29 Oct 2007.
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roy-algriffin
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posted October 29, 2007 10:22 PM |
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How about this then-
If im a good and nice person and do my best to help people but im jewish instead of christian do i go to hell?
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posted October 29, 2007 10:37 PM |
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So, let me get this straight: God can only run one religon (Christianity) and he is 3 parts: Dad, Son, Ghost. Yet the Devil, you say, is running a lot more religons (Hindu, Muslim, Judaism, Punch and Judyism, Atheism, Evolution, Neopagan, etc)
Does that not make the Devil more powerful?
Also, Islam is a Spinoff of Christianity. Isn't it also okay, since it comes from Christianity?
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posted October 29, 2007 11:00 PM |
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Quote: Each their own I say.
I agree in principle. Or, no, wait a minute, I don’t. What I do, is that I like the principle. But it’s an utopia. Because while I’d like everyone’s beliefs to be solely their own business, the fact is that our beliefs influence just about anything we do in our lives. This becomes problematic when we live in collectives, or societies, where we try to collectively decide what’s best for us. Obviously, our individual contributions to this collective decision-making process are also influenced by our beliefs: What we want for our society varies, depending amongst other things on whether we are conservative Christians, agnostic liberals, or atheistic socialists, just to mention a few of the well-known stereotypes.
So, when we in our struggles to reshape society in our own image come across people whose beliefs are so far from our own, and we perceive these beliefs as being a threat to society in some way or other, what do we feel the urge to do? Or when we feel that the fundamental beliefs of others are based on false premises?
That’s right, we seek to “enlighten” them. Thus, the whole principle of “each their own” is moot. Sad -- as it is a remarkably admirable principle -- but still somewhat true.
Also, a fun fact about the so-called infallibility of the Pope: Did you know that this dogma wasn’t established before Pope Gregory VII published his (whether it was his or belongs to his successor is disputed) Dictatus Papae in the late 11th century. So, the question arises: What of the Popes who preceded Gregory VII, were they infallible, too? I mean, they ought to have been, right, seeing as they were closer to Peter and thus Jesus in the Apostolic Succession, right? But why didn’t they include this in a law prior to 1090, then? It seems a little bit strange that they did not, seeing as they had inherited a most literal (or is the phrase “literate”?) culture from the Romans, and evidently tried to write down as many of their laws as they could.
Quote: God did not create you an atheist. Predestination is a false Calvinistic doctrine. God gave you a free will to choose between being saved by doing good works in his name or go to eternal damnation.
Man, what a choice. He really is a swell guy. Whenever I see this kind of description of God, I become more inclined to agree with one of my flatmates: If God exists, and the Old Testament portrayal of him is precise, then he is evil, a threat to the human race, and as such we should devote all our time and energy to hunting him down and pacifying him.
Quote: The process of reading the Bible, or any other religious text, should be a humbling process. It's the humbling of self in favor of recognition that self is not as important as a "greater good". The "greater good" can be viewed as God, Mother Nature, the whole of mankind, or anything else.
Oh! Oh! You mean like Communism?
Quote: If im a good and nice person and do my best to help people but im jewish instead of christian do i go to hell?
According to Catholisism, no. But the Protestants ought to disagree; you know, their whole deal with “the Bible alone, the Son alone”, and all that.
However, the Catholics basically agreed that Luther was right during this ecumenical meeting they had a few years ago. I only know of this through rumours and hearsay, though, so don’t ask me for more details.
Also, this.
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posted October 29, 2007 11:55 PM |
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posted October 30, 2007 02:38 AM |
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I have given up on beliving in God in order to worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
ZJ, put that into your peace pipe and smoke it.
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posted October 30, 2007 03:41 AM |
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Quote: I have given up on beliving in God in order to worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
ZJ, put that into your peace pipe and smoke it.
Is that a thinly veiled personal attack?
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posted October 30, 2007 03:47 AM |
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Look, how about we return to the discussion of our arguments, not our individual faults and merits.
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posted October 30, 2007 03:56 AM |
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@Shadey: No, that's just something my friend said to a teacher, and I was DYING to say it.
Anyway, Pastafariansim. Femenist, Belivable, and True.
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posted October 30, 2007 12:48 PM |
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posted October 30, 2007 01:12 PM |
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Oh I was thinking of Fortress_Fan.
Enough of topic already.
Are there any poly- or pantheists here?
Or are we all just monotheists, agnostics and atheists?
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posted October 30, 2007 01:24 PM |
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Why should be believe in a God that doesn't believe in us?
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ZanJerusalem
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posted October 30, 2007 01:28 PM |
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I ignore the personal attack.
Quote: Why should be believe in a God that doesn't believe in us?
He believes in us. He has gave you a free will to chose.
What's a pantheist?
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Lord_Woock
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posted October 30, 2007 01:31 PM |
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This.
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posted October 30, 2007 01:32 PM |
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Hindu or thaoist for example. Hindus are also polytheists.
One that believes god is in everything and everywhere. A world spirit if you like.
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posted October 30, 2007 04:28 PM |
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Quote: He believes in us.
Says who?
Quote: He has gave you a free will to chose.
Says who?
All infos out of a book.....Hans Christian Andersen also wrote great books.....same goes for the Brothers Grimm....
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