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mvassilev
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posted December 28, 2007 02:56 PM |
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Quote: That's up for debate, really, since the main reason to stimulate better health and longer age is men's inability to accept death as a part of life, but I'm not gonna argue on that
So? There's nothing wrong with wanting to live longer.
Quote: How is overpopulation to be fixed with better ed and health?
With education, women will have less children. With better health, there will be a greater chance of children surviving infancy, so women won't need to have as many children.
Quote: *coughs* Are you talking about humanity and wellbeing or about the world?
I'm talking about the standard of living of the human race.
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posted December 28, 2007 04:24 PM |
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Quote: Since you like quotes from the bible you'll definitely want to read this
That made me very happy.
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posted December 29, 2007 02:34 PM |
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So? There's nothing wrong with wanting to live longer.
That's up for debate, as well. I know for one thing I really don't want to get older than 80 and live 20+ years crippled and unable to do the things I used to be able to do.
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With education, women will have less children. With better health, there will be a greater chance of children surviving infancy, so women won't need to have as many children.
Thus you will end up creating a system where people can't have more than 2 children per family. As I said, solving the problem of overpopulation requires sacrifice, regardless wether you improve health and education. And people just aint capable of accepting that.
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Quote: *coughs* Are you talking about humanity and wellbeing or about the world?
I'm talking about the standard of living of the human race.
I was talking about the world Prosperity and wellbeing comes at the cost of something - nature.
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posted December 29, 2007 03:21 PM |
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Not necessarily moonlith.
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mvassilev
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posted December 29, 2007 03:30 PM |
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Quote: That's up for debate, really, since the main reason to stimulate better health and longer age is men's inability to accept death as a part of life, but I'm not gonna argue on that
So? There's nothing wrong with wanting to live longer.
That's up for debate, as well. I know for one thing I really don't want to get older than 80 and live 20+ years crippled and unable to do the things I used to be able to do.
I'm talking about productive age. People used to die at 25. Now they retire (!!!) at 65. That's progress.
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With education, women will have less children. With better health, there will be a greater chance of children surviving infancy, so women won't need to have as many children.
Thus you will end up creating a system where people can't have more than 2 children per family. As I said, solving the problem of overpopulation requires sacrifice, regardless wether you improve health and education. And people just aint capable of accepting that.
You don't understand. People could have more children than 2, but they wouldn't want or need to. Look at Western Europe. There are no laws (that I know of) that restrict the number of children. Yet people are still having less children. If we gave Africa the same education and health that Western Europe enjoys, very quickly the birth rate will go down. People realize that it is a better investment of their time and money to raise a few children, knowing that they'll survive to adulthood than to have a whole bunch of children. Nothing to do with sacrifice.
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posted January 04, 2008 01:44 PM |
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Can Atheists Be Parents?
After six years of childless marriage, John and Cynthia Burke of Newark decided to adopt a baby boy through a state agency. Since the Burkes were young, scandal-free and solvent, they had no trouble with the New Jersey Bureau of Children's Services—until investigators came to the line on the application that asked for the couple's religious affiliation.
John Burke, an atheist, and his wife, a pantheist, had left the line blank. As a result, the bureau denied the Burkes' application. After the couple began court action, however, the bureau changed its regulations, and the couple was able to adopt a baby boy from the Children's Aid and Adoption Society in East Orange.
Last year the Burkes presented their adopted son, David, now 31, with a baby sister, Eleanor Katherine, now 17 months, whom they acquired from the same East Orange agency. Since the agency endorsed the adoption, the required final approval by a judge was expected to be pro forma. Instead, Superior Court Judge William Camarata raised the religious issue.
Inestimable Privilege. In an extraordinary decision, Judge Camarata denied the Burkes' right to the child because of their lack of belief in a Supreme Being. Despite the Burkes' "high moral and ethical standards," he said, the New Jersey state constitution declares that "no person shall be deprived of the inestimable privilege of worshiping Almighty God in a manner agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience." Despite Eleanor Katherine's tender years, he continued, "the child should have the freedom to worship as she sees fit, and not be influenced by prospective parents who do not believe in a Supreme Being."
The Burkes are now living in Carterville, Ill., near Southern Illinois University, where John Burke has worked for the past year as a speech pathologist. Nevertheless, Judge Camarata ordered the parents to send David's sister back to the New Jersey adoption agency. Two weeks ago, aided by the American Civil Liberties Union, the Burkes appealed directly to the New Jersey Supreme Court, which agreed to hear the case. If they fail in their appeal, Eleanor Katherine may have to leave the only family she has ever known and await adoption by another couple whose religious convictions satisfy the State of New Jersey.
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posted January 04, 2008 01:54 PM |
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becouse of such judges,we have currpotions.
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Doomforge
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posted January 07, 2008 01:28 PM |
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Wow, haven't been here in a long while. How's everybody doing?
maretti: that's a very disturbing story, but to be honest, that's our oh-so-modern world. "Freedom means you can believe in everything you want, as long as you believe in what we consider being right, of course" - that seems to be the new motto of European Union, and it seems that US is pretty much the same.
Liberalism.. yeah, right. I'm kinda shocked that the modern world and Huxley's "New Brave World" seem to be so alike at times.
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posted January 07, 2008 01:35 PM |
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That's terrible...Sometimes I can't believe what I'm hearing.
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posted January 12, 2008 09:13 PM |
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Quote: jesus once said "happy are those that dont see but still believe"
That's right... I believe in God even I never read bible or never go to church and I even got bored for praying when I was young but it just makes me happier and gives me some lifepower to think that there's something I can't truly understand. And that is important in life.
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posted January 12, 2008 09:25 PM |
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Quote: That's terrible...Sometimes I can't believe what I'm hearing.
Don't worry too much. There is absolutely no way the Supreme Court would uphold such a decision. It can't survive strict scrutiny.
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Elvin
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posted January 12, 2008 09:36 PM |
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That's something, maybe there is hope for humanity yet.
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posted January 12, 2008 11:08 PM |
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Quote: That's something, maybe there is hope for humanity yet.
I wish that fanatical judges were humanity's greatest problem...
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posted January 12, 2008 11:35 PM |
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With the Bush court such a decision mightbe upheld 5-4. Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito would probably vote to uphold it, and so might Kennedy.
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OD
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posted January 12, 2008 11:42 PM |
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Edited by OD at 23:45, 12 Jan 2008.
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Doubtful. It'd most likely fail the compelling state interest part of strict scrutiny. Additionally, I don't think the Supreme Cout wants to even bother with that can of worms. Furthermore, even if they were to rule that way, Congress would probably pass a bill overriding their decision.
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posted January 14, 2008 04:14 PM |
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Quote: Furthermore, even if they were to rule that way
What way? I cant find the post.. What is all this bad horrible news? Only letting christians become presidents? lol
I have another question, which was the last president to not go to church???? If you awnser right you'll one day find money
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mvassilev
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posted January 16, 2008 10:14 PM |
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antipaladin
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posted January 16, 2008 10:29 PM |
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Quote: That's something, maybe there is hope for humanity yet.
I wish that fanatical judges were humanity's greatest problem...
This is a sad but true statment.
this is what happends when athesim is not reckonsied as a legite religion
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baklava
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posted January 16, 2008 10:33 PM |
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But atheists keep repeating that atheism isn't a religion...
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antipaladin
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posted January 16, 2008 10:38 PM |
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Thats the point
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