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Gus
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Not-So-Bright Crusader
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posted June 10, 2006 03:27 AM |
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how is it a waste of time? When i'm playing hotseat, i don't like when my Necro opponent spends hours killings peasants just to raise a few skellies ^^
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Vacinden
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 10, 2006 07:47 AM |
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Ok I turned on "Quick combat" and indeed it saves a lot of time..and if the ai does screw up, what it sometimes does you can just replay. Thanks for this tip. I like it.
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted June 10, 2006 02:30 PM |
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i mean it's waste of time when u play with another player u don't improve ur tactics at all
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Gus
Known Hero
Not-So-Bright Crusader
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posted June 11, 2006 04:09 AM |
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yeah, and my point is you don't improve your tactics when you play a battle against the AI that you know you will win with no casualties
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Forestmaster
Hired Hero
Also known as poison master...
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posted June 11, 2006 11:37 AM |
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I can't even imagine myself playing auto-combat! Combat is my fav time of the game! Well if u r playing campaign sometimes it's getting boring but I never trust AI anyway.....
well, wiping the floor with creatures you want to kill for XP or skellies is hardly strategic =)
And, sorry to repeat myself, but you don't have to trust the AI now. You can see what the result would be, and either accept it or replay the battle to your liking! So if you don't take casulaties, or very few, you click ok, if you're not happy, you click "replay" and you fight. That's really great, trust me, try it out for a whole map, you'll see how great an improvement it is from the previous games. I never used it (in H2, H3, H4), but in this game it rocks.
Well ok maybe it's soon and I still like to fight all the time  I believe after some time I'll use it too.....
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ZombieBunny
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 15, 2006 03:26 AM |
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Perhaps its just me, but the Quick Combat AI seems to play a bit to well... I hardly ever have a reason to replay a battle after the first two weeks once I have a decent army up and running. I just went through a Big 6 player map vs the computer and only played perhaps 10 battles...
Or perhaps I just need to buff up the difficulty level? Playing on Hard currently. Just feels frustrating when in the later stages of the game the Neutrals just cant compete with my army. Would be fun if the respawns would actually be worth fighting, rather than having to mow through 10 stacks of 100 peasants...
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SCKnight
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 15, 2006 04:16 AM |
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I only use it when I know that I'll win, especially getting a weak enemy. However, I NEVER use it when fighting enemy heroes and during sieges as the computer very often makes mistakes that cost you dearly.
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ZeroXcuses
Known Hero
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posted July 15, 2006 04:33 AM |
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yeah, and my point is you don't improve your tactics when you play a battle against the AI that you know you will win with no casualties
This guy must the the smartest on AoH!
One thing that needs to be corrected is when a Dungeon hero casts empowered armageddon during a quick combat, when it is completely unnecessary.
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted July 15, 2006 09:03 AM |
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It should be possible to disallow auto combat when hosting a game.
When I play someone online, it's not because I want to play the same dumb computer. I can always play against AI offline. And with tactical _human_ decisions removed, there's little value left in HOMM.
I'd consider it rude if my opponent used it. I'd never play him again. People who disagree are those who enjoy winning at all costs, even against a retard such as AI.
Tactical combats were always the most fun part of Master of Magic and Heroes of Warcr... er, Might and Magic.
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Thanatos
Known Hero
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posted July 15, 2006 12:23 PM |
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Edited by Thanatos at 12:25, 15 Jul 2006.
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It should be possible to disallow auto combat when hosting a game.
When I play someone online, it's not because I want to play the same dumb computer. I can always play against AI offline. And with tactical _human_ decisions removed, there's little value left in HOMM.
I'd consider it rude if my opponent used it. I'd never play him again. People who disagree are those who enjoy winning at all costs, even against a retard such as AI.
Tactical combats were always the most fun part of Master of Magic and Heroes of Warcr... er, Might and Magic.
I don't think it's possible to use auto combat in human vs. human combat... or is it? If it is it's indeed kind of silly...
If you mean using autocombat against the AI, I don't really see the harm in using autocombat in multiplayer against a totally outnumbered stack of neutrals or something that even the dumbest AI would decimate without losses, spares a lot of time that can be spent on the more important things in a heroes' life
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Klaital
Known Hero
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posted July 15, 2006 05:14 PM |
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I think that some people here are confusing auto combat and quick combat...
You can't use quick combat against another human player, but you can use auto combat.
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bigshot
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 18, 2006 05:56 AM |
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honestly i dont like homm5's autocombat because u have to watch it
i used to occasionally do it in homm2 where it was instant without watching anything and sometimes came out with better results that i managed myself  It doesnt make you a true player but yeah its easier with it.
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BigBadVoodoo
A poster
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posted July 18, 2006 06:04 AM |
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it's fine if my opponent uses it...
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Haldowan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 19, 2006 05:35 PM |
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it's fine if my opponent uses it...
Yep
The auto-combat or quick-combat mode results are a very good base to learn basic combat and how to use yours units well. If you can not have best result most of the time, something is wrong.
The next step is multiplayer...
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Miru
Supreme Hero
A leaf in the river of time
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posted July 19, 2006 10:34 PM |
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The autocombat is not entirly usless. When I started H5 on the early campaigns, I used it, and I you pay attention it has a few (5 - 30) good moves in it. Now I only half use it -- I turn it on on stupid units, like a pile of a few scouts I picked up on the adventure map, but I do the rest by hand. I use it on pathetically easy battles too.
Mostly autocombat is to save time, or help on dynamic combat, not a substitute for tactics
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BloodMiser
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 20, 2006 01:32 AM |
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Quick combat: Quick combat is godly, but seems to suffer from faction and spell bias. For instance, I don't think quick combat makes the best use of the raise dead spell. I also find that it occasionally uses up spell points for bizarre reasons.
Auto combat: I do not use auto-combat against other players, though it doesn't bother me with my opponent does so (especially when you learn to exploit the auto-combat AI). OTOH, I find that if I am unsatisfied with a quick combat vs. a neutral group in which I should have few/no casualties, I sometimes will use autocombat for the first 90% of combat, then switch it off and begin using raise dead, etc. The people I play with definitely appreciate the reduction in time. (Of course, some people in MP get pissed when you fight ANY battle without quick combat on, but that's another matter.)
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