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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
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posted August 06, 2009 03:49 PM |
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No, only the abuse cheats beginning with @ were affected by those patches. add_army works even in TotE. I'm reasonably sure it's tied down by enable_cheats as well, but haven't checked yet. Still, it's better to be on the safe side and type it in.
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted August 06, 2009 04:36 PM |
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Edited by Nirual at 16:41, 06 Aug 2009.
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Must've read it wrong then, always used the @version the few times I used cheats. And no, you don't need the enable cheats command for them.
Edit: From the guide:
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Note: for the reason of multiplayer honesty, version 1.2 of the game (and presumably beyond) has disabled all the codes that are NOT @ Commands (the @ Commands never worked in multiplayer, but always did for single player). As a result, unless your game version is pre-1.2, many of the cheats will no longer function. However, there is an @ equivalent for every code that no longer works.
Lack of clairity made me take this as meaning the other codes had been disabled entirely, not just for multiplayer. And then there is the fact that the guide repeats that for every such code "(disabled in 1.2)" which seems rather redundant when the guide writer was (rightfully) opposed to using them in multiplayer.
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Lexxan
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Unimpressed by your logic
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posted August 06, 2009 05:08 PM |
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Edited by Lexxan at 17:18, 06 Aug 2009.
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I think it would be cool to add the ability to Hover. You know, equal to flying, except you can't hover over units or castle walls, or any similarly large objects. On the other hand, you could be unaffected by Moats, Mines, Quicksand, and every other attack (both mundane and magical) made from the ground, like the Stone Spikes Spell.
this would also be great on creatures like the Ghost, in combination with Flight (unaffected by Moats, and can fly over castle walls)
In addition, we can also think of an ability like "Obstackle Jump": for factions that lack flyers, but have units that can reach high speeds (I'm thinking of the Cavalier for Haven and the Imp for Inferno), we can make the jump over certain obstackles, allowing them to reach squares that normally would be blocked by certain kinds of obstackles (like Blade Barrier?)
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lucybear
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 07, 2009 12:40 AM |
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HOMM
hi guys especially Cepheus, enable cheats worked I appreciate all your help from everybody. Its been awhile since Ive played so instead of alot of concentrating now I can have some fun as well. take care guys.
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DieDevil
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 01, 2010 10:23 PM |
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they cant fly because they cant get over that they were summoned from the dead. also, they went on strike and wanted more "bling bling" than any other team on the necropolis, so they gave them these fashion costumes with heavy steel that they couldnt fly. poor wraiths.
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Berny-Mac
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Legendary Hero
Lord Vader
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posted June 04, 2010 06:45 AM |
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I dunno, the liches got the dresses and the vampires have those sick hairdoos.
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted June 06, 2010 09:00 AM |
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1. wraiths have nothing to do with ghosts.
2. Not only they shouldn't add incorporeal ability to others but maybe they should nerf the one of the ghosts.
3. Yes, wraiths appear to be flying but they are actually walking.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted June 06, 2010 10:31 AM |
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Wraith
1.An apparition of a living person that appears as a portent just before that person's death.
2.The ghost of a dead person.
3. Something shadowy and insubstantial.
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ohforfsake
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posted June 06, 2010 11:11 AM |
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If the wraith is supposed to be the guy with the fork (the havester thing), then isn't his/their job not to collect souls of already dead, so they can be judged to go to either hell or heaven?
I imagine the only difference of having this guy as a creature and not just there to collect souls for later ressurections are that he's a master of getting the souls no matter how hard they try to flee.
In short, I imagine, if they should have a power, it should be some kind of anti ressurection, anti animation, in general any kind that requires a willful soul (so if its elemental or something mind controlled [though the mind control can probably be resisted by inserting own soul to take control, in general maybe turning some of the enemies ressurected units against themselves], there should be no restrictions).
Also, those guys, afaik, are actually angels. So they should have stats of angels, but not be able to attack, because they're not angel of wars. 
Hmm, thinking about it, I think they're probably better in their unrealistic way than as a stationary, non useable for anything than anti ressurection, creature.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 06, 2010 01:39 PM |
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why? technically, because of a line of code
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Vangelis21
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Manchild
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posted June 06, 2010 02:18 PM |
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lol Elvin,
Why did you just copy paste something you found online? pick an opinion according to the topic! wights, wraiths etc are not ghosts. They are just creatures. Especially in H5 they are resembling "death". Also, they don't fly !
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Elvin
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posted June 06, 2010 04:06 PM |
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Sure they are. In the beta they had incorporeal ability as well.
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Vangelis21
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Manchild
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posted June 06, 2010 04:26 PM |
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yes but heroes are not the creators of everything! one of many interpretations of what wraiths and wights are is the one of "ghosts". most likely than not, they are not
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Elvin
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posted June 06, 2010 04:38 PM |
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Ingame description
Wights are tormented souls thirsty for revenge on all living creatures.
Sounds like a ghost to me. Whatever.
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Vangelis21
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posted June 06, 2010 04:47 PM |
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1. in game descriptions are in game descriptions, not reality or mythology whatsoever.
2. Even by following the in game description we can see that the naming of the word "ghosts" is avoided.
Look it up online. 4/5 descriptions are not abou ghosts.
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Varsuvius
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 27, 2010 02:53 PM |
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Maybe the Wraith should have a whole new ability: Floating..."Floating gives the Wraith the ability to walk over small obstacles like rocks, but unlike flying creatures they cannot pass over castle walls or other creatures"  .
Lol a dead thread ressurected... seems like a Necromancer's job, right?
Floating seems like a good ability to me. though it shouldn't allow the wraiths to stand over an obstacle. True, Undead have 3 flyers already, one shouldn't demand more! Ghosts, Vamp lords and dragons are all great creatures to throw behind ones wall in a siege...
I think that the wraith was a nice variation to the Black Knight of H3: the knight looks a lot like the Haven's Cavalier, and though being one of my fav units in H3 i enjoyed the variation.
Still, a Wraith is sooo restricted  there were fights that it was completely useless, or others where it served as a tank for the shooters, similarly to the zombies... this is sad for a level 6 creature, don't you agree?
Sure, the Undead have a lot of things to do, and are a powerful fanction to play. I wouldn't want to boost the wraiths, unless it's a nerf for another creature as well (like the ghosts/spectres for example...)
Finally, one last thing: i don't like the way Necromancy skill works in H5: you always end up with zounds of skel archers, and use them to kick @ss. I think that higher necromancy skill should allow you to raise different undead types (say, skellies -> zombies -> ghosts) and boost the percentage of raised creatures slower. 40% (at least, and only with expert Necromancy) of dead creatures is a ridiculous amount of skelly archers end game... Perhaps it would be great to allow a Necromancer to choose the type of creature he wishes to raise, tied with the HP of each one as normal. Or then, maybe you could raise a portion of the dead creatures as creatures of their respective level? that sounds great. But this is a thread about necromancy, not wraiths. sorry 
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Elvin
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posted September 28, 2010 10:15 PM |
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The original unpatched game is horribly balanced and outdated. You should update it or better yet play TotE that adds alternative upgrades, new spells etc. Reason I bring this up is that necromancy system changed a lot later, you can raise any kind of undead from neutrals(say wraiths from titans, skeleton archers from hunters, vampires from succubi) but are limited in how many you can raise each week.
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Woodfang
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posted September 28, 2010 10:24 PM |
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Why can't Wraiths fly? Simple explanation, really. All that ectoplasm is HEAVY!!! 
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