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Consis
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Of Ruby
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posted November 14, 2006 04:37 AM |
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Edited by Consis at 04:45, 14 Nov 2006.
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Well . . .
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I guess I don't have a right to be trusted as of yet, but I guess I'll have to do what I can to prove the fact that I'm not a simple pawn. I hate my parents. I hate the environment I am in, but I choose to cope wih it instead of whining. I recieved this laptop as a gift and with my wireless internet, I have gotten the green light to do basically anything I want for a period of time. Who knows? Maybe one day they'll snap again and take it away. What I know for sure is that no one has to worry about my topics being deleted in the future.
When I took my oath and joined my country's military, I pledged to defend our laws and land . . . both foreign and domestic. Ruby, perhaps this is the fight that we sometimes call "the good fight". In this struggle of yours, I truly pray for you. I pray for you to have strength, courage, and above all humility. You may find that you can indeed win the battle and even the war. But don't let your victory turn to bitterness. As wrong as your parents may be, they are still simply your parents. Do any of us really know what we are supposed to be doing in this world? Can we honestly say exactly what to do? As human beings, your parents deserve your compassion as surely as you deserve it from them. Maybe they aren't giving it to you. Perhaps they should re-examine some of the choices they have made with you. But still . . . they and everyone else should be given mercy and kindness especially when they don't deserve it. As surely as cruelty reflects upon the individual who wields it, so too does mercy and kindness reflect equally upon the bearer by the same token.
You might recall the IM you and I exchanged shortly after your previous disappearance. You might remember what I decribed to you in regard to my own parents. For ten years I hated my own mother. She would spit on me, in my face every Sunday and tell me that I was going to hell. She even tried to kill me once. I was up against the wall while she held the garden sheer over my stomach saying that she would kill me. My younger brother begged and pleaded for her to let me live. And why . . . because I wanted to play my video games. I lived through two failed suicides and went on to beat my innocent undeserving wife. I went to jail as it was exactly what I deserved. For a very long time, I thought very poorly of the world in general. I loathed humanity and I hated myself even more. But it wasn't until I forgave my mother that I finally stopped having thoughts of suicide and revenge. That is what hatred of your parents (especially your own mother) can give you. To hate your own parents, this is a different kind of hatred. It is a bit more venomous in its poisonous hate-driven effects on your person. Hating your parents means to hate something about yourself. It has taken me a very long time to be able to say that. And I wouldn't wish it on you Ruby. There's really nothing anyone can do in your situation except for you. We don't get to choose our parents do we? Whomever they are, then that is the way it shall be. In many cases the parents are wonderful and in many others they are criminal. It doesn't seem likely that your parents will soon stop trodding upon your own sensibilities. And so I have a proposal for you. Since they refuse to come to their own senses, I suggest that you be their parent. Listen to them the way they should be listening to you. Give them the respect they should be giving you. You be the bigger person. Give yourself the dignity that they seem to incessantly refuse you. Go ahead and tell them you are "tolerating their behavior" (childish and unreasonable though it may seem) considering the circumstances. If they can't be adults then the need exists for someone else to fill the position of responsible and respectable parent. If you have ever heard a child utter these words "I've had to grow up fast" then you know they've had to experience something similar. Trust me, I am a father of three children and I would not do to them what your parents are doing to you. It is sad but true . . . sometimes the child must be the parent if the actual parents are incapable of doing the job right.
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I was never told that deleting threads and post were such a big deal, and if someone had, then maybe I wouldn't have had it done. I'm sorry for making things a lot more complicated then they should've been.
Ruby, if someone went and destroyd the posts of someone whom you considered to be a good quality writer, wouldn't you feel it was a big deal as well?
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I may get opinions forced on me, by my parents at the most, but that never affected me. Abortion facts are not opinions. If my parents were to come up to me and tell me that homosexuality was wrong, then...well...where's the fact in that? If I was to go up to my platform and pronounce to the world that abortionists use salt poisoning as a form of abortion...then I am not simply putting out my "view" on things, am I?
Yes but always remember the people. Give yourself the correct moral compass. No historic event of any significance has ever occured without the support of the people. You wouldn't find yourself giving your essay to a group of old ladies playing bingo or a group of people walking a casket to its burial site would you? You had an excellent essay. All I'm saying is give it a little more thought next time before you present your next terrific essay.
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My teacher has feelings, yes, but what does that have to do with me stating fact?
Everything. We are all of us human beings . . . having thoughts and emotions that know no limits. We think and feel, thus we are. We are a person alone and together we are a people. We have many differences but also many similarities. Our place in the universe is defined by many things, one of which is our individuality.
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I honestly don't believe that a person's feelings can debate with the fact.
Not to debate, but rather simply to consider inside of a debate.
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violent_flower
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Almost there.
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posted November 14, 2006 04:41 AM |
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Dear Mommy,
I’m here waiting for you to love me can you hear me? I seen you the other day in my dreams, well at least the “mommy” I wanted to see. You were beautiful and caring and you stroked my face as you kissed me softly, I can dream can’t I? I have been floating about now for a good six or seven months in this acid pool and I can’t wait till the pain stops. I know that you have a problem “mommy” and I have to suffer along with you, but why? I guess my question for you is, do you love me or am I just another part of you that you wish to abuse and destroy?
The drugs have now taken over my undeveloped body and I hurt. The pain is unbearable and my tiny veins have become weak and thick with your choice of candy this week. My little heart is struggling to keep up with the rest of me. Every time you take a drink, every time you inject that poisonous desert you call heroin, and everyday that you don’t care about me is one more day I wish I would just die.
I hear the doctors telling you that I’m only going to have a twenty percent chance of survival and the chances that I would even be normal are slim to none. Tell me “mommy,” why have you done this to me, to us? I know that you suffer an addiction and that your head hits the pillow at night and I’m the last thing on your drugged out mind, but it hurts. Just when I thought it could not get any worse you wash the burning drug down with a fifth. I’m drowning in your addiction and in your thoughtless actions toward me. What will I do with one arm, a mentality of a two-year old the rest of my life, or a “mommy” that is surrounded by a drug induced haze?
What will happen to us after you have me, because the choice to let me go was to hard for you? The choice to keep me and kill me slowly after my birth or unknowingly in your womb was easier than facing the choice of abortion. My “daddy” is away in prison and he may never get out, I don’t even get a “daddy?” Do you know “mommy” what happens to babies that are drugged up while awaiting birth? Can you imagine trying to take care of a drug-addicted child when you can’t even take care of yourself? Please “mommy” I don’t want to be mentally retarded, I don’t want to go from foster home to foster home with never knowing what it is like to have a real “mommy”. You still have your life, give me a choice about mine.
Ruby, I love the essay as far as shock value is concerned and the creativity of it. The teacher was doing their job however. In a college classroom environment you may have had a bit more room for this. I encourage you to stand up for yourself and your views but understand that you were forcing your views in a very touchy environment. Your sixteen years old, is that correct? I have to tell you that my mom had an abortion after I was born and I thank our rights that she did.
My above depiction is just a different view for you to look at, one that I had to face as an unborn child. I know you will say to me, “Well aren’t you glad that you are here?” I will not debate with you about what I believe, so please let’s not take it there. Your age says that you have not yet had the chance to really plant your views in life. You are smart and I’m by no means knocking your age. I just want you to understand that not everything is black and white and there are certain times when we have to bend without snapping. I just wanted to correspond with you and tell you that I respect what you have said to point and I hope you find the courage someday to stand up to those that parent you in such a passionate way.
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Learn how to duck and weave because I will throw truth at you all day!
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pandora
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The Chosen One
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posted November 14, 2006 04:58 AM |
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Consis, for the record Valeriy did not delete Ruby's thread - I did.
She asked me to remove it as she was concerned that it might be found, I didn't initially want to go with deleting - but she was clear in her wishes and reasoning so I respected that.
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"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
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violent_flower
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Almost there.
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posted November 14, 2006 05:08 AM |
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You finally got the ‘A’ you deserve…. You go girl…
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Learn how to duck and weave because I will throw truth at you all day!
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ruby
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crazed swede
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posted November 14, 2006 08:24 AM |
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Consis-
I guess I over react or overdo when I say that I hate my parents. Sometimes, when I am able to look past the things they've said and done to me, and forced me to go through all alone, I can find that spark of wanting to be near them. But I always carry this root of bitterness towards them, and I wish didn't. I find myself asking why I can't have different parents, but of course, life isn't that simple.
I have been my parent's parent for a long time now, ever since we moved to the United States really. I still teach my parents of the basics of American teens and the way society works in a high school environment and I do teach them new things every day of what not to say or do, seeing that they are still pretty stuck in the Swedish 70s. But that feels to be beside the point, due to the fact that my parents never seem to change for anyone except for themselves. They are hard-hearted and stubborn, but I try to ignore that. See, if I say something they don't agree with and stand up for my point, whether it's fact or opinion, I am punished with the guilt they throw in my direction, from glares, to hurtful words, or slaps to the face. I've reached the wall I cannot climb, until that wall is torn down, which hopefully will be when I turn 18.
You'd be surprised how much thought I gave this essay. It didn't take a simple 60 minutes to write. I had a lot of time to sit and ponder and put it together, and I had a lot of things that were pushing me away from actually presenting it, and remember, I was requested to read it out loud. I did not actually choose to myself, but I still feel it was the right thing to do. And of course, I wouldn't do a speech such as this at a burial, but I feel that teenagers, the ones who hold the next generation in their hands, need to know the facts of what can decide the outcome of a human life.
violent_flower-
The way you write really does inspire, I'll have to admit. I have looked at many views of reasons for abortions but not really that one in particular. You make a very good point, but I still stand firm on what I believe, and I will not, as you ask me to, to ramble it into a debate. I will respect every single word I've read, with joy, because you know how to express your view and your side of the story without sounding so agressive and negative. I really like that.
I do stand up to my parents, friend, but sometimes it's harder than other times. I have courage, too much courage, and I do get myself in deep loads of trouble from it sometimes, especially with mom and dad. Now, I find myself standing up for myself in a mental state when it comes to my parental units, and as long as I know where I stand on things, I don't have to worry about being thrown down to the floor for having opinions. Life is easier that way.
But if anyone here on HC ever wants my true opinion, I always have the courage to state them with pride.
Pandora-
Thanks for clearing things up Pandora, I really do appreciate it. 
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Consis
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Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted November 14, 2006 03:33 PM |
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Ruby,
You are a very talented writer and a good person. And we here at Heroes Community are very fortunate indeed to have made your acquaintance. I am happy to have met you. Thankyou for your thoughts and your company. It warms the soul to know that there are more good people in this world than is visible to the naked eye.
I'm glad you're back.
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Roses Are RedAnd So Am I
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ruby
Promising
Known Hero
crazed swede
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posted November 14, 2006 06:11 PM |
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Edited by ruby at 01:38, 15 Nov 2006.
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You are a very talented writer and a good person. And we here at Heroes Community are very fortunate indeed to have made your acquaintance. I am happy to have met you. Thankyou for your thoughts and your company. It warms the soul to know that there are more good people in this world than is visible to the naked eye.
I'm glad you're back.
Well this is certainly not how you sounded with your first post in this thread, but I guess I'll have to forget about that, but even so, charm gets you nowhere Consis 
I am only joking. I am very happy to hear that I have somewhat of a purpose to be on HC, and that I am not the only one who enjoys getting situatated with topics other than the norm. I'm glad to be here on HC and if I warm a soul or two on the way, it makes me more than happy.
Thanks for the much needed encouragement.
I went to the abortion/stem cell research thread that you made a while back and I read my first "Abortion is Murder" thread. I found myself giggling a little bit, seeing how much my vocabulary has grown since then, but I am sort of fickled to read that I had the same views back then as I do now.
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Consis
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Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted November 15, 2006 06:42 AM |
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Bah . . .
I see nothing fickle about that. It means you have been true to yourself. This is obviously very important to you. Following your dreams I'd say . . . good measure. That's the right way to live.
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pandora
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The Chosen One
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posted November 16, 2006 11:41 PM |
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I think instead of "fickled" she probably meant "tickled"
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"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
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Nidhgrin
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baking cookies from stardust
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posted November 17, 2006 01:48 PM |
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Edited by Nidhgrin at 13:51, 17 Nov 2006.
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Ruby,
First off, you have written a brilliant story imo. I can't judge whether it meets the requirements that were set to write a scary story or not, but you do have writing skills. The build up, structure, the choice of words... A+ material. Hopefully you will be able to explore those skills further and put them to good use. Do realize that with talents like this comes a responsibility too. Never forget to consider the point of view of the reader, or to be critical on the impact you may have with writing any kind of text.
I don't know the story about the misthrust some members of HC have or had in you, nor why others took such a tough stance against your point of view (even though some did make valid points). Actually I was negatively surprised about some people being much harder than they should have been. I have no intention to do the same, but I am gonna try to play advocate of the devil here.
Being non religious, I don't have to deal with dogma's or interpretations of ancient texts that are considered to be the thruth. Being highly critical and ethical of nature though, I can fully agree with the statement that the killing of unborn children is immoral and completely wrong. This is a general statement, but I'm also convinced there are rare situations in which it is ethically better to end the life of the unborn.
I could start by repeating a number of valid points that have already been made, supporting pro-choice, and start to defend them. Such as: mother or both parents are drug addicts, have aids... mother was raped... mother has a serious risk of dying during labour... mother is very young, severely disabled... unborn child has a very low life expectancy or will be badly disabled... In these situations either the life of the mother is in danger or might become, or the life of the child is in danger or will start in inhumane circumstances.
But it would serve no purpose, as I agree with you for 95%. What did strike me is the fact you state on numerous occasions that you are 100% pro life.
I'm not American, so I may know or not know what charge 'pro life' really covers. But considering your 100% support for the fact that killing unborn children is wrong, it would imply you also heavily oppose capital punishment. Following that line further, it also means you should oppose the public sale of fire arms or ammunition. In order to be sincere, you should also be a supporter against the war in Iraq for instance, where lives are wasted like garbage on a daily basis, since the start of this new conflict. Because this belongs to the same ethical field, how do you feel about breeding animals for food and killing them, sometimes before they reach 1 year.
Why list up all those points? Because when you're pro life about unborn children, but not about living children or adults, your values are in ethical conflict.
Some food for thought...
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Consis
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Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted November 17, 2006 03:11 PM |
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Edited by Consis at 15:12, 17 Nov 2006.
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Hmm . . .
The thought has just occured to me. Ruby . . . you are probably the biggest fan of Final Fantasy VIII I have ever met. And . . . that entire story is centered around a group of orphan children all coming from the same orphanage. I wonder, is there a connection between your pro-life opinion and the life of an orphan?
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