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posted November 26, 2006 08:36 AM |
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Tipping
OK the search engine found some posts, but didn't say which page of a 95 page thread they were on, so I will post some extracts here before starting my blah.
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For example…tipping….somehow it has become customary to tip 15%.....no longer to waiters/waitresses receive the tip with thankfulness….they consider it a stiff it they don’t get at least 15% (BTW I tip as I like to…it is just the expectation that you HAVE to tip that bugs me). Whereas today I was in a restaurant where it was not a typical tipping institution due to the differences in roles compared to the typical restaurant. Well the servers did provide me some services so I left a tip which others don’t typically do…the facial expressio ...
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tipping has become is absurd plain and simple..it has become yet another entitlement…I am so SICK of entitlements. Do you tip your grocery clerk? Do you tip the guy who reads your electrical meter? Do you tip the fast food employee? What about all the contractors who built your home/apartment? Do any of these people serve you any less than a waiter/waitress? Are any of them less busy?
Fourth, Well tips are a part of society now….but all I got to say is that it is VOLUNTARY by its very nature. It is not a law to tip. So having said that….they need to earn their tip….its called a work ethic….work hard and I will benevolently tip you….work crappy and it is my choice to not tip you. I have never not tipped someone….well maybe once when I was a kid and "dined and dashed”…well I regress;P
Fifth mandatory/obligatory tipping can create a lackluster work environment. Same principle as welfare…you give people something for nothing…well guess what you get….nothing for something! The point is this social custom of a mandatory tip is just asinine and leads to very lazy waiters and waitresses on occasion!
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I am off to Hawaii as you all know  And this is part of the US, so I am paranoid about offending people through lack of tipping. Apparently Aussies are renowned for their lack of tipping. It is something that we really don't do {although some people are beginning to in some circumstances}.
Here's my view:
- Employess should be paid a decent minimum wage - the 'tip' is included in the price of the service. {The wage system in the states (and that they are trying to introduce here) is slave labour}
- I don't really understand how tipping there got so out of control - that the staff actually depend on it to survive 
- Is the tipping system used to make people feel rich and better than someone else by throwing them money depending on their ability to suck up to you?
- If tips are a basic percentage of the cost of a product/service then why is this amount not included in the price?
Anyway
The main reason for this thread is to find out what the 'tipping' expectations/customs etc are expected in the US {mainly} but also in other countries around the world.
So who gets tipped, how much?
If you want to give your opinion on tipping then that is fun too 
Please Thanks 
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posted November 26, 2006 09:01 AM |
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I've always found tipping to be rather amusing as well.
As a general rule of thumb, you should tip whenever you receive special service. Though the word "special" is also up in the air for interpretation. I know for sure that you should tip at sit-down restaurants, taxi drivers, valet parking, and bartenders. (I know I probably missed something. I'll edit as I remember. )
The amount to tip is entirely up to you, but generally, you want to tip 15%. For high class restaurants, you might want to go about 20%, though sometimes, gratuity is already calculated into you bill (depending on the size of your party).
I know my parents have very different views on tipping. They've both waited tables before. My mother is somewhat bitter at times and rarely leave more than the typical 15%, but my father almost always insist on tipping 20% or more because he says he knows that it's like to be on the receiving side. I normally tip based on the service. If my server has a bad attitude, then he's get a tip deserving of that attitude. If my server is polite and happy, I sometimes leave up to 30%.
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posted November 26, 2006 08:04 PM |
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I sometimes leave up to 30%.
That's awefull generous of you.
I typically go 10%, 15%, 20% for indifferent/rude, competent, and SUPADUPA. I actually get annoyed at any service worker that expects more than 20%.
One time I remember I was in a restaurant where I was the only customer and the waitress still took forever for everything. I tipped her one penny.
It's also expected here to tip a pizza delivery person(two or three dollars) and taxidrivers (two or three dollars). Which is strange when you go to a foreign country because you're not expected to tip taxi drivers.
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posted November 26, 2006 08:15 PM |
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 Thanks, tipping makes me crazy, frustrated, and annoyed, but thanks
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posted November 26, 2006 08:25 PM |
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It's kind of a bizarre system actually. For example, if you are famous then you have a motivation to tip well because if you don't then your reputation will suffer. (Jimmy Page for example has gotten a reputation as a Led Wallet).
But what about if you're not famous and you take a taxi-ride? You're never going to see that taxi-driver again, ever. So what's the impetus for forking over a couple of extra bucks to them? The only impetus is that they won't think badly of you as they drive off to their next customer. You're paying a couple of dollars just so that they won't think you are a tightwad for about 5 minutes
I'm going to stop tipping taxi-drivers.
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posted November 26, 2006 08:25 PM |
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Main Entry: 1tip
Pronunciation: 'tip
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): tipped; tip·ping
Etymology: Middle English
transitive verb
1 : OVERTURN, UPSET -- usually used with over
2 a : CANT, TILT b : to raise and tilt forward in salute <tipped his hat>
intransitive verb
1 : to become tipped : TOPPLE
2 : LEAN, SLANT
- tip the scales
1 : to register weight <tips the scales at 285 pounds>
2 : to shift the balance of power or influence <tipped the scales in favor of a declaration of war -- S. F. Bemis>
...which is what you should do the next time you're expected to tip someone
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posted November 26, 2006 08:40 PM |
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I'm going to stop tipping taxi-drivers.
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What about waitresses/bartenders if you pay your bill as you leave - you may never see them again either
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I wonder what would happen if they banned tipping in the US, and just made people pay there staff decent wages. I remember this one roadside restaurant I went to in some state over there - One of the 'O' states... anyway, it was nearly upsetting how this waiter was gushing all over us. The restaurant was empty, and we could just tell that he was desperate for a decent tip.
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posted November 26, 2006 11:28 PM |
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The federal minimum wage for waiters/waitresses is HALF the minimum wage for everyone else. The remainder is expected to be made up for with tips. In reality most servers make well over minimum wage though. At a lot/most restaurants, they can easily make double, or triple the minimum wage. If you leave 10%, I wouldn't worry about insulting anyone.
Personally I only use percentage as a partial guide. I figure the number of plates the server brings is approximately the same no matter how much the meal costs. So a higher cost doesn't mean much more work.
As you know, I eat out most of my meals so I try to eat relatively cheap. Most of my meals are $7-12. Within this price range, the acutal price makes little difference.
I typically go:
$1 = they got the food to me
$1.50 = normal tip
$2.00-3.00 = they were better than average, very cute and smiled a lot, or I just happened to be in a good mood
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For high class restaurants, you might want to go about 20%
I would do just the opposite. I've worked in higher class restaurants and my experience is that behind the scenes, the waitresses are a bunch of prima donnas who expect the world and do little to deserve it. The hell with them. A $100 meal doesn't deserve more than a $10 tip.....and when you actually look at what they do, they probably don't even deserve that much. I'd rather leave 30% to a college student at a cheap restaurant to help pay for their school. Or leave a good tip to a working class single mother.
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It's also expected here to tip a pizza delivery person(two or three dollars)
I've delivered pizza at 5 different Dominoes in 3 different states. If I got a $3 tip, I'd be jumping with joy. It varies a lot with location, but even the best locations, I would only get a tip from maybe 1 out of 2-3 customers. A dollar is by far the most common tip. (although rounding to the next higher dollar is very common also)
About Valet parking at a resort area. Believe me, those guys are fighting over those jobs because they make so much feekin money on tips.
Taxi drivers: rumor has it that in a big city like New York, they can work 5 years and retire. hmmmm, that's what I've heard anyway....
Oh, at restaurants: If you pay with credit card, you can add the tip to the bill rather than leaving a cash tip. So they won't even know how much you left until the end of their shift.
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posted November 26, 2006 11:57 PM |
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Oh yeah, pizza (or any other type of food) deliveries. I usually give 15% for those as well and round to the nearest whole number. Unless they get my food to me extremely fast. In which case I tip more. ^_^
I tip 15% for taxis as well. Is that too much? Usually a trip from here to the aiport is 45 dollars, and I tip 5.
Just a random note, I've always thought it's interesting that tipping is rude in China. Because it sort of implies that you pity them at their low paying job, so you tip. Something along those lines. And at airports there, they have a sign that says "We do not accept your tip somethingsomethingsomething..."
Customs.
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posted November 27, 2006 06:42 AM |
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I have never EVER tipped at a restaurant and I'm not sure if I will, but I fear that if I find the meal to be terrible the waiter/waitress will still ask me for a tip. I wonder what would happen if I don;t tip a waiter/waitress because I didn't really enjoy the meal.........
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posted November 27, 2006 06:58 AM |
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I tip the barber as well just because I know they don't all make as much as some people think. Most of them have to buy all their own haircutting equipment plus they have to pay a rental fee for their chair. I usually tip the lady that does my hair about five bucks.
At restaurants I usually tip a dollar per person unless it was really good service at which point I may add an extra buck or two. I have hardly ever taken a Taxi except when I was in New York and I tipped they guy five bucks then. That's just my fallback number when I don't know what to give someone. Five Dollar. Have a nice day.
Kooka, be sure to eat at Outback while you're in a US state for some "authentic" Australian food.
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posted December 08, 2006 12:59 AM |
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"tipping is not a place in china"
while the above may be true, i tip as i see fit ...never when i go out for a drink or coffee (since something like a tip is included in the price) unless the waitress does something to earn it (get your mind out of the gutter, kids)
i sometimes tip the delivery kids, especially if my elevator is out of order (going five floors up is a snow, they deserve some compensation) ...but tipping taxi drivers? HA! good one! ...they should be tipping me!
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