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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: The most powerful town: Averages.
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted December 12, 2006 03:09 PM

Leave maths out and go by experience.Ever played competitively?Do you upgrade your creatures?Let me tell you what,if you can buy them all and do the above in all maps,good for you but I sincerely doubt it.
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GenieLord
GenieLord


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Legendary Hero
posted December 12, 2006 03:16 PM

Ok, I added the creatures' cost. Enjoy yourself.

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Homer171
Homer171


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posted December 12, 2006 04:56 PM
Edited by Homer171 at 17:02, 12 Dec 2006.

Okay nice work GenieLord but like others here have said you can't make judgements about town streghts by the numbers. Heroes skills, spells, creature abilities etc really changes the towns one way or another. I have tough also what tows is the most powerfull in the game and this is what i come by:

Haven is the most powerfull town there is. Few really simple things makes it so great. 1) Train Peasants to Marksmans! 2)Paladin & Archanhels recurrection combo! 3) Only might oriental hero in the game!

Knights are only heroes witch have primary skill of Attack and Defense. All other heroes get less of these skills and in long terms that weakens theyr army a lot. Sure there are great spells what needs lots of spell power but the strongest spells does not require any good spell power from the hero! Light and Dark magic spells are basically these kinda spells.

The balance of the game is very good and i don't doubt that but i don't see any major weakness on Haven town. And for instance Dungeon town is very good in the begging whit creeping creatures and Empowered spells but what longer the game continues and what larger are the end game armies the stronger the might oriental heroes will be and also spells that does not use spell power comes more powerfull cause they effects are used againt or for the whole stack.

I play whit every town cause i really think the game is allright balanced but i would not take Dungeon town on XL map or other hand i would never take Necropolis on Tiny map either!

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alcibiades
alcibiades


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posted December 12, 2006 06:35 PM

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well wrong again. Why all of you count the full population when you can't buy it most of the time. The price in money and resources must be counted too.


Well that's turning it into a philosophical question. That's like saying you can't ever compare anything, because there might be a band of Druid Elders that joing your hero on day 1, which will give him an unreasonable advantage.

What we're talking here is not actual gameplay, but power potential in each faction. And I retain that if you want to compare the factions, the above way is how you should do it.
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RectusDominus
RectusDominus


Adventuring Hero
posted December 15, 2006 11:08 AM

It's really quite impossible to calculate such a complex game as this one,
experience,creativity and guts lead to glory!

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Homer171
Homer171


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posted December 15, 2006 01:21 PM

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It's really quite impossible to calculate such a complex game as this one,
experience,creativity and guts lead to glory!



True there aren't clear victory from any town all are pretty good and it all comes down to players talents witch is better player but you can get unlucky sometimes but thats life But i'm deffinetly sure there are diffrence in some maps when you choose your town. Try to start whit desert terrain whitout choosing wizards etc. Map sizes changes the powers of creatures/skills/heroes and towns one way or another also.

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TheDeath
TheDeath


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posted December 15, 2006 04:55 PM

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Try to start whit desert terrain whitout choosing wizards etc. Map sizes changes the powers of creatures/skills/heroes and towns one way or another also.
You can use "Pathfinding" abilitiy or those nasty boots

Anyway, I don't play my towns just because "they are tough".. victory is not my primary goal.. I play my "favorite" towns, so to speak; and no setting would change that -- even if I lose big time
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Istari
Istari


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posted December 19, 2006 02:54 AM

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Anyway, I don't play my towns just because "they are tough".. victory is not my primary goal.. I play my "favorite" towns, so to speak; and no setting would change that -- even if I lose big time


Good for you, spoken like a true captain.  I got crushed in Heroes II-IV for refusing to take Dungeon.  Now my Haven is finally good and I do not feel at all guilty that they are "too good".  I play my favorite whether they are the best or not.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted December 19, 2006 03:06 AM

ohh, come on, heroes3 dungeon was nothing spectacular, and h4 one was mediocre at best

h2 one ruled, tho

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emilsn
emilsn


Legendary Hero
posted December 19, 2006 12:09 PM

Hmm? that cost? Is that for Weekly growth? or just 1 of each? or ?

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