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TrangOul
Known Hero
Lord of Darkness
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posted March 01, 2007 08:39 PM |
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted March 01, 2007 10:11 PM |
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Edited by Kipshasz at 22:16, 01 Mar 2007.
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Baklava,i suggest u read all what is posted in article about flamewalkers. they dwell in Molten Core,in the depths of the world.they live in extreme heat,in molten magam so they would fit in perfectly. instead of ogre u could use Dark Iron Dwarf these are evil dwarves(read in the article i posted)and they fit perfectly the creature should be Dark Iron Dwarf>>>Dark Iron Footman as lvl3 creature.
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted March 01, 2007 10:17 PM |
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*sigh*
This might be a personal issue but I refuse to accept anything from WoW. I don't want to sound totalitaristic or anything, I just utterly dislike it. Its creatures are completely made for one-time commercial purpoes only. They don't have the soul of the heroes units.
Besides, Flamewalkers live in molten magma. Did you see molten magma anywhere in the Dungeon?
And about the dwarves, we already have kobolds. Plus, Dungeon is a confederation of underworld creeps controlled by powerful overlords and sorcerers (sorcerers are disputable though) and I don't think any dwarf would accept to be ruled by an overlord.
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"Let me tell you what the blues
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money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted March 01, 2007 10:27 PM |
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Dark iron dwarves are ruled by Ragnaros,the firelord. theyre crafting the golems for his army against Nefarian and his orc and dragonkin legions.a possible dungeon hero Thaurissan,the emperor of dark iron dwarves.as for inferno,heres Hell hound possible new look. and Baklav,if u don't like,maybe other team members will like my suggestions
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted March 01, 2007 10:51 PM |
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Quote: and Baklav,if u don't like,maybe other team members will like my suggestions
Perhaps. Although I think they would also like to keep heroes III independent from modern mainstream commercial games. But let's wait and see...
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"Let me tell you what the blues
is. When you ain't got no
money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
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Charon
Hired Hero
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posted March 01, 2007 11:06 PM |
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My opinion is, both of your ideas can be incorporated in our works, whit the slight exception of taking products of any mainstream game(sorry Forsaken). Maybe the concept but not the idea in whole, since without used concepts, let's face it we would have no elfs, dwarfs koblods... If there is to be a flame lizard (or any thing of such), simply describe it to me in your words and we'll consider making a creature by that guideline.
I personally don't want dwarfs in Dungeon since I was sort of hoping for a separate dwarf town, and the fact that thay have no buisnis whit koblods and not to mentione troglodites. On the other hand, I was hoping for a Orc&Goblin town which obviously isn't going to happen.
(I'm easy to satisfy, so no complains)
Only one suggestion.
Look the picture in whole and try to imagine these creatures and their cultures intertwined. If reasoning serves us right, we'll all come to a satisfying conclusion.
Appreciate all your help!
Play nice now.
Cheers
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Asheron
Famous Hero
Ancient
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posted March 02, 2007 12:14 AM |
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Edited by Asheron at 00:25, 02 Mar 2007.
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Whoa!I was away for few hours and damn,thread exploded.Excelent
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Hellfire ok (but written together. Some things seem cooler when written together)
Ups!My bad
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Air Ward instead of Ward Air (goes for all wards)
Ha!I knew it.Take that Charon
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If we include a new faction we'll have to work our butts off... Besides, we're going to need great creature artists. We just need to agree on that so that we see what we can do.
Yeah I know...Unfortunately we HAVE a great artist who's busy at moment I will hunt him down and by god's we will have concept art this weekend
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About upgrades, the entire point is that you give cash and resources for a reason. We don't want people to decide they don't want to upgrade a unit because it's better when unupgraded. Upgraded ones should be more powerful. Perhaps the difference should only be a little smaller.
Yeah,but lets at least make non-upgr. units usefull.So the point of example Centaur Archer-Centaur Lanser example is : C. Lanser is stronger with more attack,defense,health,speed etc. but NO range. I don't know,it was interesting for me...But your right,it better your way...
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Btw is it possible to change the look of town buildings? It will be strange to recruit the possessed in the imp crucible, for example. We need to change their names and perhaps looks a bit.
Names?See the pics:
(Sorry for pics size,had to make them small,so that my net could load them)
And for the spells patch...I was making that
Just kidding,when I finish,i'll post it for download.Little advice, put spellpower multiplayer (Damage = SP x 10 + 10 for example).Actually,i'll post it tomorrow so that you all could test it
And in the end,the dungeon...Look guys,there's no need for argues,surely we can come up with a "golden middle" that will be good for everyone...
Oh,I just remembered,I made some changes with artifacts,here they are:
Golden Bow & Sharpshooters Bow - are hold in right arm as a weapon
Orb & Tomes - Are hold in left arm like a shield
Explanation:
Golden Bow & Sharpshooters Bow - Simply,they are way powerful to be considered as talismans.Besides its pure logic...
Orb & Tomes - Again,balance issues and logic. All spells and orb for damage?Orb Of Vurneability AND Orb for damage?With new balanced magic system its simply overpowered.And for logic:how do you keep an open book in a pocket? Magic
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Charon
Hired Hero
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posted March 02, 2007 12:33 AM |
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All good.
As for the Air Ward thingy. I simply don't care. Make it Protection from Air, Ward Air, Air Ward or "Not Air, Anything But Air".
My experience in composing words, phrases and sentences in English is oh so limited, so I say Nothing.
Best of luck guys.
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Asheron
Famous Hero
Ancient
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posted March 03, 2007 09:11 AM |
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There really no need for that "I don't care attitude",Charon...
As you can see from pics above,I found a way to change almost every text & picture in the game(for example changed ore to rocks,gremlin to ninjas etc ). I still need to practice with ERM,but in time...
About Dungeon,well,i didn't quite get it... Are they gonna be bunch of creeps or dark elves or something between or...what?
I was watching our old posts and...What's a Hierophant? I mean what does that mean?It's suppose to be elven magic hero...And Inferno magic hero-Summoner...Is that appropriate?
Some other ideas regarding artifacts? I personally want to change Elven bow to give 15% instead of 5%...Arrows can give 5%...And perhaps new look...
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted March 03, 2007 01:26 PM |
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Hierophant is some sort of a druid, nature mage, something like that. Summoners... Well they summon. They summon demons from infernal planes to Erathia.
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"Let me tell you what the blues
is. When you ain't got no
money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
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Fighter
Adventuring Hero
I am living in Pandemonium
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posted March 03, 2007 01:29 PM |
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i think i can help to you in this project if need help just catch me in skype (ngfear)
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted March 03, 2007 02:13 PM |
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fighter can help you ruin the project.
i like ethose chants,and Blizzy fan art ir scenario selection screen good job bro..as for rampart commander i think i have something,i'll post it later
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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Charon
Hired Hero
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posted March 03, 2007 02:14 PM |
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Summoners indeed are a class bonded by their work whit Inferno, and that's where I think they should stay.
As for the hierophant fell'a, well I'm astonished not knowing this about him being a druid class. Always thought he was more of a castle dude being that the actual word Hierophant is constructed from the combination of ta hiera, "the holy," and phainein, "to show." from Ancient Greece. The actual role of the hierophant in religion is to bring the congregants into the presence of that which is deemed holy. Prove me wrong. (please do, I just might be)
As for a substitute, well we can make a sort of Sage giving hero EXP bonuses or something like that.
The Summoner I relay like though.
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Asheron
Famous Hero
Ancient
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posted March 03, 2007 04:17 PM |
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Edited by Asheron at 16:29, 03 Mar 2007.
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Just a random display of power
Regarding Dungeon...I think we should leave warlock as magic hero
Kipshasz why do you dislike Fighter?
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted March 03, 2007 06:12 PM |
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i dislike him? i HATE him for ruining my project.
nice portraits. tip for Zubin: Stay away from da VooDoo
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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Yanzhangcan
Known Hero
*Dance*
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posted March 03, 2007 09:43 PM |
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I like this, I am seriously considering helping out with the idea for monster stats.
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted March 04, 2007 01:32 PM |
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@ Charon
I didn't know that I mean, I knew he was some sort of a monk, but I thought something like a druidic one, and not a holy dude... Cool. We could still have him in Rampart though. Being a monk doesn't exclude him from Rampart
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"Let me tell you what the blues
is. When you ain't got no
money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted March 04, 2007 01:51 PM |
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To Baklava: i knew one paladin named Baklava,he played in Burning Blade realm. is it you or not?
as for commander for rampart i have an idea. armored elf with dual blades(like Illidans)name could be Sylvan Knight/Warden
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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Asheron
Famous Hero
Ancient
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posted March 04, 2007 02:07 PM |
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i dislike him? i HATE him for ruining my project.
LOL
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tip for Zubin: Stay away from da VooDoo
Well, with new concept it will have sense...
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I like this, I am seriously considering helping out with the idea for monster stats.
By all means,go ahead
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I didn't know that I mean, I knew he was some sort of a monk, but I thought something like a druidic one, and not a holy dude... Cool. We could still have him in Rampart though. Being a monk doesn't exclude him from Rampart
How about sage?It sounds cool...
Oh yeah,Baklava,did you got my e-mail?(I'm having some problems with connection so just to be sure,i'm checking)
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as for commander for rampart i have an idea. armored elf with dual blades(like Illidans)name could be Sylvan Knight/Warden
Sounds good...
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Charon
Hired Hero
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posted March 04, 2007 06:22 PM |
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Hierophant could be of any religion, so I'm in.
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