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Unhackable
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posted March 20, 2007 07:50 PM |
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What about having 4 heroes per faction?
Warior Mage Domnator Priest
Castle Knight Magician Lord Cleric
Inferno Demoniac Chaos Mage Demon Lord Heretic
Tower Battle Mage Wizard Alchemyst no idea
Dungeon Warlord Warlock Overlord Shadow Priest
Rampart Ranger Warden no idea Druid
Fortress Beastmaster Witch Beast Lord no idea
Stronghold Barbarian Runemage no idea no idea
Necropolish Death Knight Necromancer Nekrodin no idea
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baklava
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posted March 20, 2007 09:38 PM |
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@ Unhackable: too hard. Perhaps we could do that, I don't know, but we have some more important issues right now...
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should our commanders cast any new spells or leave them as they are?
I think they're ok the way they are now, with the exception of Soul Eater whose spell is far too strong
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Asheron
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posted March 21, 2007 02:45 AM |
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About 4 heroes per race...Maybe it might be done but I fail to see the point...One would be might,second one magic,third and forth would be?
Lets see...
Sergeant - Cure
* ok, although all spells of this type should be mass on grandmaster lvl...
Warden - Shield
* as above
Champion - Fire Shield
* this is a strong spell,I like it
Wraith - Animate Dead
* it would be good if it could raise lvl 6 & 7 units...although it would be imba,this way is kinda good for raising skeletons...
Executioner - Bloodlust
* totally fits him  ,mass on grandmaster
Engineer - Precision
* i never liked this for temple guardian,she was made kinda more useful than good...But for Engineer...Maybe okay
Chieftain - Stone Skin
* same as cure
Sun Priest - Haste
* good,i think,also mass on grandmaster lvl
Maybe,just maybe,we should implement damage spells,something like fire wall or eldritch bolt...slow and curse would be good,to...
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Yanzhangcan
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posted March 21, 2007 04:32 AM |
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Hrm...
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should our commanders cast any new spells or leave them as they are?
I think they're ok the way they are now, with the exception of Soul Eater whose spell is far too strong
Yeah... Animate Dead is a very powerful spell, in reference to the other spells. I suppose becuase the other spells have special abilities in comparison (Fortress Commander can cast haste & fortune) and necro only uses one spell at once.
However necro monsters can be very powerful if they keep coming back to life, lol
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Unhackable
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Banned
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posted March 21, 2007 08:47 PM |
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About 4 heroes per race...Maybe it might be done but I fail to see the point...One would be might,second one magic,third and forth would be?
Lets see...
Sergeant - Cure
* ok, although all spells of this type should be mass on grandmaster lvl...
Warden - Shield
* as above
Champion - Fire Shield
* this is a strong spell,I like it
Wraith - Animate Dead
* it would be good if it could raise lvl 6 & 7 units...although it would be imba,this way is kinda good for raising skeletons...
Executioner - Bloodlust
* totally fits him ,mass on grandmaster
Engineer - Precision
* i never liked this for temple guardian,she was made kinda more useful than good...But for Engineer...Maybe okay
Chieftain - Stone Skin
* same as cure
Sun Priest - Haste
* good,i think,also mass on grandmaster lvl
Maybe,just maybe,we should implement damage spells,something like fire wall or eldritch bolt...slow and curse would be good,to...
I talking about this one:
WEll, It's a bit tricky, but can be done!
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baklava
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posted March 21, 2007 09:05 PM |
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 Holy sh*t... KD, you made that on your own?
Well, when put that way, I see the point... But it would still be excruciatingly hard to create
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money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
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Asheron
Famous Hero
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posted March 21, 2007 10:48 PM |
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Well,it's all very nice,I see you have an interesting idea but I still don't see the point...I ask again,why do we need 4 classes?
btw why do you call him KD?
Some new advanced classes:
Hand Of Khorne
Requires - Chaos Magic,Sorcery,Intelligence,Offense,Mysticism
Bonus - Free lvl 1 & 2 Chaos Magic,Becomes Specialist for Chaos Summon(Raises its Stats)
Windspeaker
Requires - Spirit Magic,Luck,,Learning,Wisdom,First Aid
Bonus - Free lvl 1 & 2 Spirit Magic,Becomes Specialist for Spirit Summon(Raises its Stats)
Lich
Requires - Death Magic,Learning,Mysticism,Scholar,Necromancy
Bonus - Free lvl 1 & 2 Death Magic,Becomes Specialist for Death Summon(Raises its Stats)
Names of gods:
Sigma - God Of Life
Khorne - God Of Chaos
Charon - God Of Death
Sylana - God Of Nature
What do you think?
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baklava
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posted March 21, 2007 11:24 PM |
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Well,it's all very nice,I see you have an interesting idea but I still don't see the point...I ask again,why do we need 4 classes?
One to imbue attack&defense values, one to imbue economy, one to imbue magic, and one to... spread the faith or something 
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btw why do you call him KD?
It's short for KnightDougal, that was Unhackable's nickname on his other account which got the bad-mannered status because of spamming... Heh, KD's spam onslaught is one of the best things that ever happened to HC  Look around, you might still find some trace about that... God, it was a funny time...
About Khorne - no. Please, no. Taking ideas from other games (namely Warhammer in this case) is a bad solution.
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Hand Of Khorne
How about Pyromancer or Occultist?
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Lich
The hero needs expertise in all those skills to become the unupgraded necropolis lvl 5 creature?
How about Harbinger or Soultaker?
I don't think gods should have names... They should just be, well, the gods It worked thus far... But, even if we do make names for them, Sigma and Khorne are out (again, we shouldn't take stuff from Warhammer).
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you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
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Asheron
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Ancient
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posted March 22, 2007 07:02 AM |
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One to imbue attack&defense values, one to imbue economy, one to imbue magic, and one to... spread the faith or something
Interesting...But it was hard to come up with names for 2 classes...I don't know,I've never thought of this.Maybe there is something to this, I just don't want to unnecessary complicate things
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About Khorne - no. Please, no. Taking ideas from other games (namely Warhammer in this case) is a bad solution.
Fine...
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How about Pyromancer or Occultist?
I don't know...
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The hero needs expertise in all those skills to become the unupgraded necropolis lvl 5 creature?
How about Harbinger or Soultaker?
I said it somewhere before,but I'll say it again: Lich is not gonna be a lvl 5 unit.He's not gonna be a unit at all. I'm (pleasantly) surprised with the fact that you know gods of Warhammer,but we have to take names from somewhere. Heck,I can name 10 games that has creatures that heroes has.Does that mean we shouldn't use them? So Warcraft and Warhammer are out,but all others are ok? I wasn't talking about Warhammer as a game,but as a world...
As for the lich thing,we'll put something else,like acolyte or even undead mage if needed,but no lich. Lich is a High-class mage that found out secrets of immortality...To become a Lich,one need to go through a ceremony and in the end,the future Lich removes his organs thus killing himself.But his servants finish the ritual,bury his organs and he is reborn as a Lich,an IMMORTAL being.The ONLY way to kill a lich is to destroy his buried organs,destroying his body doesn't mean anything...Plus Lich has such spells that can make an entire army ponder before attacking him...
And in heroes I had 3000 liches I mean,I can live with the fact they are outclassed by dread knights,paladins or nagas,but to be outclassed by cave troll?! No,that's to much...
And Archlich would mean Armageddon if he gets pissed 
Sorry for the lecture and if I insulted you,I'm sorry,but I just had to say my opinion...
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I don't think gods should have names... They should just be, well, the gods It worked thus far...
I believe they should have names,because it sounds silly if humans shout:"For our god!" and demons reply:"No,for our god!"
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EliteKill
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The Starless
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posted March 22, 2007 07:16 AM |
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This is nice and all... But do you have anything else than concepts? No offence, but you guys are just thinking up ideas, with barely any graphics Oh, and does any one of you know ERM? Cause thats gonna be important...
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baklava
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posted March 22, 2007 10:50 AM |
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Lich is not gonna be a lvl 5 unit.He's not gonna be a unit at all.
But in the master post on page 8, it says that liches are the necropolis lvl 5 creature. You could've changed it or left it blank... I was just confused
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Heck,I can name 10 games that has creatures that heroes has.Does that mean we shouldn't use them?
Those creatures are common for many games and mythologies. They are not thought up for just one game, like Khorne or Sigmar. If we start taking ideas for things that are, like, trademarks of some other games we'll end up with a copycat mod which will serve for people to say: "These guys could make a solid expansion, too bad they had no originality to think up some things themselves".
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I wasn't talking about Warhammer as a game,but as a world...
Even worse... Heroes have a world of their own, and there is absolutely no need to take ideas from anything else, especially for mere god names.
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As for the lich thing,we'll put something else,like acolyte or even undead mage if needed,but no lich. Lich is a High-class mage that found out secrets of immortality...To become a Lich,one need to go through a ceremony and in the end,the future Lich removes his organs thus killing himself.But his servants finish the ritual,bury his organs and he is reborn as a Lich,an IMMORTAL being.The ONLY way to kill a lich is to destroy his buried organs,destroying his body doesn't mean anything...Plus Lich has such spells that can make an entire army ponder before attacking him...
Alright dude, sheesh... How about Acolyte - Dark Priest then? Their purpose would be the same as that of H3 liches...
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Sorry for the lecture and if I insulted you
Relax, it takes far more for me to get insulted Besides, it's good that you expressed your opinion. People should do that more often
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But do you have anything else than concepts?
Of course we do. We have good will
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Oh, and does any one of you know ERM? Cause thats gonna be important...
Asheron knows ERM quite well from what I've been able to see so far. So that's not going to be a problem.
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted March 22, 2007 11:46 AM |
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I talking about this one:
WEll, It's a bit tricky, but can be done!
i ain't believin til i see it with my own eyes (ingame scr)
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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Unhackable
Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Banned
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posted March 22, 2007 07:47 PM |
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I talking about this one:
WEll, It's a bit tricky, but can be done!
i ain't believin til i see it with my own eyes (ingame scr)
Yep, it's tricky
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baklava
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posted March 22, 2007 08:27 PM |
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KD, please, I beg you, don't quote huge posts just to say one sentence that is even obvious...  I mean, it's fun when you do it in other people's threads, but please refrain from doing it here
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"Let me tell you what the blues
is. When you ain't got no
money,
you got the blues."
Howlin Wolf
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted March 22, 2007 08:58 PM |
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like i said: show me screens with four hero types. cuz im thinkin that u are a big fat lieyer. ok no screens cuz they can be fake! show me a video with four hore types.
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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baklava
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posted March 22, 2007 09:25 PM |
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Those were just ideas dude. It hasn't been done yet.
Don't lose yourself...
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"Let me tell you what the blues
is. When you ain't got no
money,
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Howlin Wolf
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Yanzhangcan
Known Hero
*Dance*
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posted March 23, 2007 05:43 AM |
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*Consuming hamburger* Anything I can do to help? I feel somewhat left out, so give me a job! I'm good with making names and stuff... ERM is not my strong point, I know very little.
I can't help make sprites either, I want to but can't find a way to get monster portraits
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Unhackable
Bad-mannered
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Banned
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posted March 23, 2007 01:37 PM |
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like i said: show me screens with four hero types. cuz im thinkin that u are a big fat lieyer. ok no screens cuz they can be fake! show me a video with four hore types.
It isn't a video, it's not in the game, it's just an idea for the project..
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Unhackable
Bad-mannered
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Banned
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posted March 23, 2007 11:59 PM |
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As for the Commanders my idea:
2 Commanders per race!
A might and a magic!
Might Magic
Castle Captain Inqueistor
Inferno Champion Succubus
Tower Mechanist Superseme Archmage
Necropolish Blackguard Soul eater
Rampart Avanger Sage
Dungeon Ravanger Shadow Dancer
Fortress Brute Shaman
Stronghold Ogre Leader Ogre Archmage
New chreature lineup:
Castle:
Peasant (AB peasant) --> Militia (AB peasant with Homm 5 consrict's weakpon and armor)
Archer (Hom 5 archer like thing) ---> Crossbowman (original Homm 3 archer)
Swordman ---> Crusader
Griffin ---> Battle Griffin
Priest ---> War Priest
Cavalier ---> Paladin
Angel ---> Archangel
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TrangOul
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Lord of Darkness
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posted March 24, 2007 12:41 AM |
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As for the Commanders my idea:
2 Commanders per race!
A might and a magic!
You weren't first, WoG Team works on it.
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