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Lesij
Lesij


Famous Hero
posted June 12, 2007 08:12 PM

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isn`t the same name as in fortress lvl6 creature ?


Nope. Its name is Thane / WARLORD
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Daystar
Daystar


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Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted June 12, 2007 08:14 PM

the new Rakshassa is beautiful!  

Okay, that sounded less gay in my head.  I just mean it looks REALLY nice, esspecially the lepoard spots!
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Lesij
Lesij


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posted June 12, 2007 08:21 PM
Edited by Lesij at 20:22, 12 Jun 2007.

Now that's stupid! The new Djinn is INCORPOREAL!! And it doesn't have that ability, though O_O...
Furthermore Rakshas is a NIGGA now O_O WOW!
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ZodkayCudimraZ
ZodkayCudimraZ


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posted June 12, 2007 08:50 PM

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Here is academy`s alternative. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1851065692/m/9991073665
As I though Nival didn`t work hard with wizards NOTHING special. Look at storm lord- everything they did is replace "call lighting" into "call storm". Of course collosus was painted on green and now we have storm lord( isn`t the same name as in fortress lvl6 creature ? )
Djinies are worse than before, gargoyles also.
The only interesting altenative is golem.
Also Combat Mage ( what a stupid name !! ) may be interesting if we will know what is eldritch aura.

Comparing these alternative with others ( Sylvan , Dungeon ) there is nothing amazing.



I absolutely love how everyone looks differently at these upgrades. It shows how wonderful the brain and our visual cortex is. Without it those Storm Lord would just be black and white people!

Comparing all of the currently released upgrades I have personally concluded the following:

1) Sylvan and Academy please my eyes most. Sylvan because I love that eerie green colour, the nomenclature
and the different abilities. They are definitely an upgrade and not a rip-off (see Inferno). I like the Academy as much as I like the Sylvan upgrades because they too have a great new colour thing going it. The gold is very Middle-Eastern and suits the Wizards. The names they've given them are quite original and fitting. Especially Rakshasa Kshatri.

2) Necropolis Ranks 2nd with me. The Nosferatu is simply great no matter what everyone says and I actually like the Horror Dragon as well. They abilities make fore a good upgrade.

3) All the rest. I greatly dislike the Inferno (not just the upgrade but in general). The colours are too mainstream and I firmly believe that they could have done a much better job using brown hues as an upgrade alternative colour. The Dungeon is plain boring. A Shadow Matriarch is supposed to shoot, so why can't her upgrade?
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Homer171
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posted June 12, 2007 09:59 PM

Gremlin Saboteur has better attack but it's special is so useless. In end games Gremlins Golem repair is mutch more needet than +3 attack, -1 initiative.

Marble Gargoyles are weaker (vulnerable) than Obsidians and they are now more attackers than defenders. Obsidians are must againts Warlocks but fighting againts Might fanctions Marble Gargoyles could be good choice when enemy can't use their weakness in advantage.

Obsidian Golem is also more offensive creature than their alternative. Their special is amazing but enemy heroes dosen't cast destructive spells on them! They can protect their allies from area destruction spells and this is great againts Empowered Meteor Showers etc. More i like Obsidians as attackers. Teleport Assault in middle of the enemy lines followed by Wizards area spells and Archmages Fire Balls! Nice Destructive/Resurrection combos here i come! If you go whit this creature it can totally change your battle tactics: Defensive creature > Offensive, Hero from MotW to Area caster. Btw how cool would Obsidians be whit hands of Warlock!

Battle Mage is pretty awfull creature or so it seems. Magic Aura must be something good but if it only increases nearby creature magic power i would think them as only supporters of Archmages.

Djinn Vizier... And you all said Rainbow Dragon is gay... +5 Health for all that stat reducing! Boosting luck is good but perhaps it can be something even better. +2 hehe.

Rakshasa Kshatri looks and feels good. Better damage dealer and longer range. They lost their Dash and No enemy retalation but somehow i fell that other of new specials is initiative based and other is that "walk over all obstacles".

The Incredible Hulk is just a joke! Why on earth they have same stats? They wanted to make stronger alternative but they couldn't because original is TITAN and how can you top that! They really should do something for either of these two creatures before release they are too similiar. Oh yeah they are balanced allright..


None of these alternatives seems over/underpowered and thats good. New tactical creatures and that is allways welcome.

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Olo
Olo


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posted June 12, 2007 10:03 PM

Have anybode noticed that those Battle mages have spell book and no mana ?? maybe this aura of sth(i can`t remember name ) will change it ? ( for ex. give them 3 mana per round )

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted June 12, 2007 10:23 PM

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Marble Gargoyles are weaker (vulnerable) than Obsidians and they are now more attackers than defenders. Obsidians are must againts Warlocks but fighting againts Might fanctions Marble Gargoyles could be good choice when enemy can't use their weakness in advantage.


I hope you do realize that the wizard with MoTW, deep freeze, evercold icicle and those marble gargoyles has the same destructive potential as warlock, with mass mana, better racial and access to dark/light? ^_^

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Homer171
Homer171


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posted June 12, 2007 10:34 PM

Yes i know MotW is great whit Wizards but i meaned Warlock can kill those Gargoyles whit Destructive before they reach you. Golems are the ones what brings more destructive area spells to Wizard heroes.
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Doomforge
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posted June 12, 2007 10:39 PM

well, ofc that marbles can't be used against warlocks. But with those obsidians, who needs to worry about warlocks? ~~ Just put them near heavily artificed titans and watch the carnage..

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Olo
Olo


Hired Hero
posted June 12, 2007 10:57 PM

Just zoom picture of new golem , look at face and tell me - who do you see ?
For me it`s Arnie from Terminator

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ZodkayCudimraZ
ZodkayCudimraZ


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We are Gilraenites
posted June 13, 2007 03:53 PM

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Just zoom picture of new golem , look at face and tell me - who do you see ?
For me it`s Arnie from Terminator


Hahaha, -"I'm the clone!" -"No I'm the clone!" Actually it reminds me of an Egyptian pyramid guard.
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radar
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Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted June 13, 2007 03:56 PM

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incinerate damage can be increased with lucky attack ? (300% atk)


I doubt. There's no activated ability which is able to act with luck.

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Orfinn
Orfinn


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Werewolf Duke
posted June 13, 2007 05:24 PM
Edited by Orfinn at 17:25, 13 Jun 2007.

I like the redoned color which in my eyes are teal/cyan on tha Banshee by you guys, but as long they put deep purple on them instead of pink, Im not against it. The horror dragon should have purple eyes too instead of pink. But the drawback will be that they mimic the color schemes from dungeon but then agains the dungeon mimic with their red/orange scheme from the orcs

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atma6
atma6

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posted June 20, 2007 06:09 PM

What does everyone think of the Fortress alternatives. They seem extremely overpowered, far more overtly than the others.
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Orfinn
Orfinn


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Werewolf Duke
posted June 21, 2007 12:07 AM

Well siege on them will indeed be gruesome if they keep these guys as they are
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wiseguy
wiseguy


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posted June 21, 2007 09:26 PM

The dwarf alties are not that much better than the originals
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emilsn
emilsn


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posted June 22, 2007 06:40 PM

I was thinking which of Berserker and Battlerager is the most powerful?

Berserker: Berserker rage, and Bad lvl 4 stats

Battlerager: bash, Battlerage (more dmg when attacked), Anti Giant(more dmg against large creatures)

What is the best here? The Berserker or battlerager?
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ZombieLord
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posted June 22, 2007 09:16 PM

Most definetely the Battle Rager. It loses 10% damage and 9% initiative, but gains 20% HP (!) and Bash+Anti-Giant !

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emilsn
emilsn


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posted June 22, 2007 10:54 PM

Berserker, Berserker rage is affeckted by def. Because it loses all def and gains it in att. for 1 attack. A dwarf hero can (if with englightment) easily get 30 def (max) - plus a good 15-20 att. = 50 att. max - that must count for a huge amount of dmg? ... Is the Battlerager still better? - I know these new abilities will be killers, but can it match a +20 att?
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ZombieLord
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posted June 22, 2007 11:02 PM

Sorry

Now I see that the Battle Rager has Battle Rage and not Berserker Rage

Hmm, yeah, then I guess both are good... Depends on whether you have high defense with your hero (Berserker) or not (Battle Rager)

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