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angelito
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posted October 04, 2007 08:31 PM |
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Edited by angelito at 20:32, 04 Oct 2007.
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And I am interested in how do you kill 14 naga queens with week 1 castle army . . .
Would really appreciate an explanation cause it seems impossible to me 
Then try 65 Dendroids with Inferno army week 1...and the devil dwelling afterwards aswell (Devangle will remember I guess)...
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Squee_1
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posted October 04, 2007 09:00 PM |
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Hi guys
Anyone of u veterans/experienced players willing to send their saved games day by day so that i can learn from them, and try and achieve the same as what u did ?
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Fank0
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posted October 04, 2007 10:08 PM |
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And I am interested in how do you kill 14 naga queens with week 1 castle army . . .
Would really appreciate an explanation cause it seems impossible to me
Then try 65 Dendroids with Inferno army week 1...and the devil dwelling afterwards aswell (Devangle will remember I guess)...
Spirit of oppression + ammo cart + hell lot of time may be ...
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Sub_Zero
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posted October 04, 2007 11:24 PM |
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Edited by Sub_Zero at 23:25, 04 Oct 2007.
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you think he killed 65 dendroids with gogs? try hit'n'run with 1 devil  and probably some single imps to lure the dendroids away from the devil.
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devangle1984
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posted October 05, 2007 12:05 AM |
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subzero and fank0, dirk in that game did not have spirit of opression(i had it ) and had a quite unluky map(no devil built at that time), he use a few imps and gogs to take em down, tats about all he had with calid if i remember right.
Also fank0 as i said in an earlier post, there are 4 things one should try to account for, if u have enough at tat point, that would be more than adequate. Tat game i had an elementalist(arrow), and the wk1 army plus some stat boosters, the stacks were divided by 6 or 7 i think, I have some pics of some games, so i will try to have a look at them and try to upload if i find them.
@squee, there is a post here called we want to fight you, there are some saved games there, i think you will find them usefull.
p.s. dirk did not have enough money to even retreat several time to hnr vs the druids, i was saping all his money hehe
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devangle1984
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posted October 05, 2007 01:52 AM |
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This dwel was the one i had to take out 18 gorons to reach when i played with sachelos, i don't have the images for the 18 gororns i had to fight, but atleast hopefully this will do. This was day 4 i think.
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Sub_Zero
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posted October 05, 2007 02:38 AM |
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so you actually killed 65 dendroids with gogs  damn.....
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Sub_Zero
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posted October 05, 2007 02:53 AM |
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taking a hydra-dwell with 27 lizards and enough serpents shouldn't be to hard i guess....i'm more interested in the fights against the gorgons and the naga queens
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devangle1984
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posted October 05, 2007 02:58 AM |
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correction, dirk did the dendroids, yes nothing is hard if you work out the speed and avg damage per round u can cause.
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Binabik
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posted October 05, 2007 03:22 AM |
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That's a lot of week one lizards. Not rare, but for sure above average, even starting with Wystan.
And if someone's going to fight 65 droids with week one gogs, I hope their opponent had a good book to read. That's a LOT of shots to take out that many!
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Fank0
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posted October 05, 2007 09:11 AM |
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subzero and fank0, dirk in that game did not have spirit of opression(i had it ) and had a quite unluky map(no devil built at that time), he use a few imps and gogs to take em down, tats about all he had with calid if i remember right.
Also fank0 as i said in an earlier post, there are 4 things one should try to account for, if u have enough at tat point, that would be more than adequate. Tat game i had an elementalist(arrow), and the wk1 army plus some stat boosters, the stacks were divided by 6 or 7 i think, I have some pics of some games, so i will try to have a look at them and try to upload if i find them.
Ok , i guess i was wrong and it is doable. Just some luck needed to find a proper hero , spells , not lose your army before the fight and so on ... May be it just looks too hard to me to try it out ...
And Angeleto must have had tons of luck without the spirit of oppression to defeat the dendroids. Great decision though , certainly paid off well
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angelito
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posted October 05, 2007 09:48 AM |
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Just for clarification: Dirk <--> Angelito
I had around 26 gogs, 95 imps and 2 efreets. No ammo cart or any other artie. 4 single imps for taking retail, the efreets for lurking the stacks (6 stacks of dendroids) away. They moraled a few times of course, that's why I lost both efreets and some gogs + imps. But still I had enough army left to fight the devil dwelling.
Devangel described it pretty well. What most players don't know is the amount of damage your army can do.
Just estimate now (without calculating on paper): How much damage will 95 imps deal vs 11 dendroids? How much those 26 gogs?
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angelito
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posted October 05, 2007 09:54 AM |
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Hi guys
Anyone of u veterans/experienced players willing to send their saved games day by day so that i can learn from them, and try and achieve the same as what u did ?
You've got a new HC message.
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hobowu
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posted October 05, 2007 11:56 AM |
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Angelito, you must clarify that the toughnest of the hydra dwell is not becouse of the dwell itself, but becouse of the weakness of your army week 1. Right?
No I think that is not the reason.
First week army of fortress is not weaker than castle army. You can also easily fight full crypt with fortress. Also treasuries can be done quite easy with 1 hydra (which is tougher to do with 1 angel..)
But the no-retail AND the multi attack of the 3 hydras makes it very hard to fight them when they have reached your stacks. If your big gnoll stack can't be hasted, u will lose tons of them after u have attacked the 3 hydras, coz they are too slow to go away again. And u can't attack the hydras with your flies or wyverns when u have surrounded them with all your units, coz the retail kills many units.
So without haste, this is a tough thing to do....
I've taken down hydra dwells week 1 before, with an army of about 20 lizardmen, 30 gnolls, and 2 serpent flies =) (hero was tazar, only used spell magic arrow, and power skill was 1, knowledge 2). wasn't on jebus though, was playing an original map (erathia) "free for all". I find hydra dwells to be the easiest to fight... mainly cos they're 2 hex and low speed 
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angelito
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posted October 05, 2007 01:12 PM |
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20 lizzards is great week 1. Of course any dwelling is much easier with enough shooters. Melee attack is what hurts pretty much vs hydras.
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angelito
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posted October 05, 2007 04:21 PM |
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I didn't sent any save games, just a few tips about playing 2vs2 games to improve gameplay instead of watching saves.
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sachelos
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posted October 06, 2007 04:10 PM |
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hi
I'm interrested in how dev handle the throng grand elves guarding lvl 7 dwell in w1 ( 96 GE if i remember well). Give us some tips mate! Screen shots, saves, anything that could help, thx.
Regards
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Sub_Zero
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posted October 06, 2007 04:44 PM |
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only way to handle elves is fast creatures preferaly with tactics or mass haste.....if you manage to block them it is easy kill, if not....those elves will destroy you
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devangle1984
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posted October 07, 2007 12:56 AM |
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@ sachelos, for most part what subzero said is right. But to be honest it all depends on what the map offers. 1 situation i used deamer a few times before main went with angel, tactics works too, all object is to block them. Iam certain there was a post about this soemwhere in hc, but unfortunately i have no clue where it is. When u see a desired object, like a lv7 external, u use your area, your resources TO ACHEIVE YOUR OBJECTIVE. Ur area 9/10 will give u what you need to accomplish, the question is can u use it?
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