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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: "How well do you know heroes?" HoMM3 basic tests
Thread: "How well do you know heroes?" HoMM3 basic tests This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · NEXT»
SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted July 10, 2007 01:34 PM
Edited by angelito at 15:15, 15 Sep 2009.

hi all!

some of you know, how often people that come online start to declare that they are "the best players ever" however (in reality), often they don't know even basic information about HoMM3 and multiplayer games. I'm going to add possibility to check their real knowledge on WCL website - quick and pretty reliable test system. EDITED: finally test system is ready , available HERE. How will the system work? I suggest to make a number of questions, each with difficulty mark (from 3 points (easy) to 10 points (most difficult)). Perhaps 10-15 questions will be enough. After the test, final result will be recorded to profile page (public).

Examples of questions:
1) All Merchants carry the same goods at any given time, but the more Marketplaces you own, the cheaper the artifacts will be. What will be discount if you own 5 marketplaces?
- 20%
- 33%
- 43%
- 50%
- 56%
- 60%
- 64%
- 75%
Question weight: 4 points
2) Different Black Markets carry:
- same goods
- different goods
Question weight: 3 points
3) Forcefield spell lasts:
- 1 round regardless of Spell power
- 2 rounds regardless of Spell power
- 3 rounds regardless of Spell power
- 5 rounds regardless of Spell power
- X rounds depending on Spell power
Question weight: 3 points
4) Badge of courage artefact:
- adds +1 moral only
- adds +1 moral and prevents casting Blind spell on owner
- adds +1 moral and prevents all mind spells (berserk, blind, frenzy, hypnotize, forgetfulness, mirth, sorrow) to be cast on both players
- adds +1 moral and prevents all mind spells to be cast on owner only
- adds +1 moral and prevents all mind spells except beneficial (Mirth, Frenzy) to be cast on owner only
Question weight: 8 points

ACTION REQUIRED
Please say - is it interesting idea to make such test system?
Please post test questions and recommended marks into this thread

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Devangle1984
Devangle1984


Known Hero
I am the Dark Vader
posted July 11, 2007 01:36 PM

This is very interesting and i think is one of the best ways to educate everyone on the little things that could make a big difference in their gameplays. The fact that both sides of the magic pond can be used to double spell points is another good think to know i beleive. I did not know it till maretti told me about it, and i know several vets who still don't knopw about it.

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted July 22, 2007 11:28 AM

Quote:
I agree..It`s a fun way to learn about Heroes..you can try making a basic test that has questions about town , town creatures basic up to 3lvl spells, an advance test about the different bonuses that some creatures have like the royal griffin( high in moral) and a master test that has questions about different heroes, artifactes and many more

normally people don't remember exact numbers like "what is Attack  of Gold Dragon?". It's not important. Most important info is undocumented like "what is maximum number of trogs coming with Shakti?" or "which spells are trogs immune to?". By the way, royal griffins are not high in moral.

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Messaro
Messaro

Tavern Dweller
posted July 22, 2007 12:00 PM

so, Serg, when are you going to add the test system to your site? I made a little search, but did not found anything?

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted July 22, 2007 01:09 PM

Quote:
so, Serg, when are you going to add the test system to your site? I made a little search, but did not found anything?

most difficult part is to make interesting questions that will really check knowledge of players. Good question itself may attract players to play more games vs better players. Good questions will show hidden aspects of the game. System is easy to be developed, all i need is help from HC community regarding good questions...

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 02, 2007 02:16 PM
Edited by angelito at 15:16, 15 Sep 2009.

finally test system is ready , available HERE

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JoonasTo
JoonasTo


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted November 02, 2007 03:23 PM

Don't have an account

Is it required 'cause of the site? Or could you make it account free perhaps...
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 02, 2007 04:03 PM

Quote:
Don't have an account

Is it required 'cause of the site? Or could you make it account free perhaps...

You can register free, it takes 1 minute. However i can't remove password verification from this test, because idea is to show knowledge of different players not only to themselves but also to other online players (visible on profile page)

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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted November 02, 2007 05:13 PM

Good test I think...seperates the boys from the men...
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Binabik
Binabik


Responsible
Legendary Hero
posted November 02, 2007 09:28 PM

Quote:
All Merchants carry the same goods at any given time
I'm almost sure this isn't true. It might be true for external black markets, but not for in town art merchants.

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JoonasTo
JoonasTo


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted November 02, 2007 10:38 PM

What are the maximum points for this score?
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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted November 02, 2007 10:40 PM
Edited by angelito at 22:41, 02 Nov 2007.

Quote:
Quote:
All Merchants carry the same goods at any given time
I'm almost sure this isn't true. It might be true for external black markets, but not for in town art merchants.

But it is true Bina. Merchants in towns always have same artefacts, while externals have different. To be more precise: There is only ONE merchant for ALL towns (who are able to build it) on the map!

That's the reason why u sometimes miss one or more artefacts in YOUR merchant in town, coz opponent bought this (those) artie(s) in HIS merchant in town.
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mamgaeater
mamgaeater


Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted November 02, 2007 11:26 PM

Quote:
hi all!

some of you know, how often people that come online start to declare that they are "the best players ever" however (in reality), often they don't know even basic information about HoMM3 and multiplayer games. I'm going to add possibility to check their real knowledge on WCL website - quick and pretty reliable test system. How will the system work? I suggest to make a number of questions, each with difficulty mark (from 3 points (easy) to 10 points (most difficult)). Perhaps 10-15 questions will be enough. After the test, final mark will be posted to results page (public).

Examples of questions:
1) All Merchants carry the same goods at any given time, but the more Marketplaces you own, the cheaper the artifacts will be. What will be discount if you own 5 marketplaces?
- 20%
- 33%
- 43%
- 50%
- 56%
- 60%
- 64%
- 75%
Question weight: 4 points
2) Different Black Markets carry:
- same goods
- different goods
Question weight: 3 points
3) Forcefield spell lasts:
- 1 round regardless of Spell power
- 2 rounds regardless of Spell power
- 3 rounds regardless of Spell power
- 5 rounds regardless of Spell power
- X rounds depending on Spell power
Question weight: 3 points
4) Badge of courage artefact:
- adds +1 moral only
- adds +1 moral and prevents casting Blind spell on owner
- adds +1 moral and prevents all mind spells (berserk, blind, frenzy, hypnotize, forgetfulness, mirth, sorrow) to be cast on both players
- adds +1 moral and prevents all mind spells to be cast on owner only
- adds +1 moral and prevents all mind spells except beneficial (Mirth, Frenzy) to be cast on owner only
Question weight: 8 points

ACTION REQUIRED
Please say - is it interesting idea to make such test system?
Please post test questions and recommended marks into this thread


1: 75%
2: different goods
3: x rounds dependant
4: plus one morale

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Asheron
Asheron


Famous Hero
Ancient
posted November 03, 2007 02:13 AM

Quote:

4: plus one morale

Um,not true,if you played WoG,you'd knew
It gives morale AND mind spell immunity...
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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted November 03, 2007 02:30 AM

His answer to the first question represents his failure percentage..
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jackdaniels
jackdaniels

Tavern Dweller
posted November 03, 2007 02:45 AM

Wow, I didn't know the discount about Marketplaces.

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted November 03, 2007 03:26 AM

Quote:
Quote:

4: plus one morale

Um,not true,if you played WoG,you'd knew
It gives morale AND mind spell immunity...


Hiya, I rarely play heroes 3 and I've never done WoG...so I'm confused.  WoG is sperate, so how does playing that help you know what the base game is like?

Also, I know you guys are correct because you are the experts, but why isn't that listed on this page?:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes3/artifactsmorale.shtml

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 03, 2007 08:46 AM
Edited by SAG at 11:12, 07 Nov 2007.

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

4: plus one morale

Um,not true,if you played WoG,you'd knew
It gives morale AND mind spell immunity...


Hiya, I rarely play heroes 3 and I've never done WoG...so I'm confused.  WoG is sperate, so how does playing that help you know what the base game is like?


All questions are about basic Shadow of Death/Complete versions.
Quote:

Also, I know you guys are correct because you are the experts, but why isn't that listed on this page?:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes3/artifactsmorale.shtml

Sometimes official documentation differ from what do we see in reality...and good player should know well what he play in reality.

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Asheron
Asheron


Famous Hero
Ancient
posted November 03, 2007 01:47 PM

@PhoenixReborn & SAG - Sorry if do it like this,but I hate quoting half of the page
Anyway,the reason I mentioned WoG is because in WoG some artifacts and units have their "secret" skill written,like the already mentioned Badge or the fact that on the description of the pikeman says "immune to the Champion distance bonus"
Hope I cleared things up
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 07, 2007 11:14 AM

any feedback about test's questions? too hard or too easy? how much time did it took to you to answer them?

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