|
| Thread: What's happening to TOH ?? |  This thread is pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV |
|
Istari
Known Hero
Truth Teller, ToH
|
posted July 23, 2007 03:35 PM |
|
|
Quote:
Seriously, if u impose time limit, its hard to find a game... because anyone who knows the game well will not finish a turn in 2-3 min 
Play no time limit, and games will come by easier.
A clan helps of course, since the veterans will get no points in the ladder ranking, the clan is a bonus for them 
I don't impose any time limits, and will play any map, but I still have very tough time getting games from most veterans. Newbies can't be in a clan until they get 4 games in, and that can be tough (finding people + bugs/ connection problems). As long as veterans are focusing on points, activity will stay low.
____________
Opinions are immunity to being told you're wrong.
|
|
Elit
Famous Hero
|
|
posted July 23, 2007 05:52 PM |
|
|
I dont see problem newbies to play with newbies for make his 4 games and reg clan. For example i did my 1st 4 games with my team mate and after it we reg my clan.
You cant expect veterans with much points to play with newbies who not clan because he will gain noting from win.
P.S. I alredy did topik for ToH point sistem. Its not so good for me. Many online games have protection for Topfeed and Botumfeed...for stimulate ppl to play with oponent in same range. How work points sistem in ToH--> new plaer can gain alot points from high rank oponent who can gain noting from win. Its complete stupid and not correct. Sistem need work for protection in both side...or high rank plaers will not play with newbies because they are not idiots.
|
|
nevermind
Famous Hero
|
|
posted July 23, 2007 07:32 PM |
|
|
Quote:
You cant expect veterans with much points to play with newbies who not clan because he will gain noting from win.
Don't listen to him , I will play anyone on anything 
____________
|
|
Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
|
|
posted July 23, 2007 09:04 PM |
|
|
@Satyrocon
Lol maybe I was given the wrong impression, after all I'm new to toh  However I'm pretty certain that a good portion of people actually like H5 whether they want to continue toh or not.
____________
H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
|
|
gmmari
Adventuring Hero
|
|
posted July 24, 2007 02:13 AM |
|
|
Seriously, if u impose time limit, its hard to find a game... because anyone who knows the game well will not finish a turn in 2-3 min
Play no time limit, and games will come by easier.
A clan helps of course, since the veterans will get no points in the ladder ranking, the clan is a bonus for them
I not impose time time limit i accept to play without time for play,
this is a great difference it seems to me that the other impose me this for play.
you are right for the clan but you must know that now create a clan is very difficult because all player from squire to the top are already in clan and many new player leave toh for the problem of play.
I play since the first day online on ubi so i'm new only here and belive me all the player that in ubi know toh say that here is too problematic find a game..
a clan created only for to find more game for me have no sense..i want to be in a clan(i have also post here if someone want join me but no one answer to me..)but i must also find people that play sometimes a game in a week and if possible that sometimes also win
Anyway all can play as he wants i will not leave toh because i like h5 and i like competition and this system of play on heros 5
last question for you..if your word are this the speed demon section is only for weak player?
Belive me if (only sometimes)a good player accept to play with all many problem will be gone.points come and go more quick with more activity and there is always something to learn with all.
|
|
sq79
Famous Hero
|
|
posted July 24, 2007 04:28 AM |
|
Edited by sq79 at 04:42, 24 Jul 2007.
|
Quote:
Many times and many player say to me that i'm not in a clan or that i use timing to quick or other excuse for not to play..
Oops, i was under the impression u set time limit.
About the speed tourney, its for fun maybe, but i don't like the idea of it myself, and also the slow players like nevermindspy or arteman..
THe only difference in a game is usually who risk more who risk less If u risk more, can't really play speed since big fight can take 10-15 mins alone
I think the problem isn't the veterans not playing the newbies, its simply not much players is playing even when online 
|
|
Elit
Famous Hero
|
|
posted July 24, 2007 06:38 AM |
|
|
|
gmmari: Bigest mistake on Nival is how work time limit in H5. Its not correct time to go when you are in battle. Pll loss time to wonder where to go and what to build or fight...but when they are in battle none loss time. Some races kill fast compare other so this give them advantage in timi limit. I like how work time limit in h3. For 2 min limit 1 player can move 2 heroes other player can move 8 and make few battles. Its diference in skills. H5 time limit is for fun games only. You never can learn game well if you play only with time limits .
|
|
fraudatio
Famous Hero
|
|
posted July 24, 2007 09:22 AM |
|
|
I actually played a new player yesterdays - OdiaK - and it was a great experience (apart from the fact that I played awful, he was really good, and i lost some 70 points, but that is no problem ). He wanted to play random random, and even Heritage of Deleb, so then it was no issues (I care more about these things than whether the player is "new" or not).
And, Gmmari, there are quite a few people online msn at any time, so I cant believe it is impossible to find a game. Hard, yes at times, but think of it as an investment. If you get a game, the players want to play you again if you are honourable, and I am sure you are.
|
|
gmmari
Adventuring Hero
|
|
posted July 24, 2007 02:44 PM |
|
|
i'm partially agree with all and partially not but anyway all ok for me i have already played 32 games here with good results and rating in 2 month that is good i think if we have problem of activity.
my word are only a pray for many of that player that are focus only in same type of game while i think that play all and with all will help TOH and to learn more of the game.
Elit i understand your word but you are wrong when you say that time is only for fun.
Play with time and without time are two different game with different
problem to solve..with time you must think more quick and solve all problem more quick..i think that a good time limit player play better than another that play only without it..
But for all this is only my opinion.
|
|
fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
|
|
posted July 24, 2007 05:26 PM |
|
|
Quote:
Play with time and without time are two different game with different
problem to solve..with time you must think more quick and solve all problem more quick..i think that a good time limit player play better than another that play only without it..
But for all this is only my opinion.
All wrong......
If you stop the clock when you are in battle... then timelimit is an issue else... as Elit says just for fun/or maybe luck....
(you can just sit an wait for an "missclick" of your opponent...
(as for me.... just ask... Fraudatio.... I'm a pretty fast player....)
ehh just delete "pretty" lol
when or if.... Ubi will make the clock to stop "in-battle" then I'll play timelimit games for sure.... np at all
____________
|
|
gmmari
Adventuring Hero
|
|
posted July 24, 2007 11:28 PM |
|
|
Not wrong fiur different.build in the city need only some sec,then move your hero is other some seconds..
if you play 3 min for example now you have for example 2min and 30 sec.
in this 2 minute is clear that you don't be able to fight manually more than 1 or 2(if you are very very quick)combat but that's normal and same problem have also your enemy but..what other you must do in a turn?
if you don't build in city before to fight because you forget to do
is not due to the time limit..do this thing and all other before to fight and also a time limit game will be ok.
i agree and understand you and elit and it's clear that without
time you can do all and fight 2 or 3 times manually in a turn but how many times you do this multiple fight in a game?and as i say this is only a different stile of play more quick if you don't have 4 or 5 hours for to play a game.
|
|
sq79
Famous Hero
|
|
posted July 25, 2007 03:35 AM |
|
|
Example 3 min battle, u have 2 towns, so inclusive of trading resoures at market place, and build town etc.That will take about 1 min. But what happens if u just lack 1-2k gold, and u have a 2nd hero with little troops, u decide to risk on a neutral stack of squires for example, when u can only build after the fight, but time limit will not allow it. Not to mention there are sometimes lag in combat turns, wasting 5-10 secs in the freeze screen.
|
|
Elit
Famous Hero
|
|
posted July 25, 2007 05:49 AM |
|
Edited by Elit at 06:07, 25 Jul 2007.
|
Quote:
Not wrong fiur different.build in the city need only some sec,then move your hero is other some seconds..
if you play 3 min for example now you have for example 2min and 30 sec.
in this 2 minute is clear that you don't be able to fight manually more than 1 or 2(if you are very very quick)combat but that's normal and same problem have also your enemy but..what other you must do in a turn?
if you don't build in city before to fight because you forget to do
is not due to the time limit..do this thing and all other before to fight and also a time limit game will be ok.
i agree and understand you and elit and it's clear that without
time you can do all and fight 2 or 3 times manually in a turn but how many times you do this multiple fight in a game?and as i say this is only a different stile of play more quick if you don't have 4 or 5 hours for to play a game.
Turn limit in h5 is not = fast play. Normal when i play with SQ79 on Hourglas we end map ~ week 5 if you play this map with 1-2 min turn limit you will end it not befor week 10-13 because here need much battles and you will make averge 1 per turn. So you will loss ~ same real time like us + making totaly crap game from poor build and lack strategy. All idea on heroes is to fight for resurces to get them and after it build your town/arts/heroes.If time not go in battles you can use time limit and do good game....but now its only for fun and games, with very loq quality compare nonlimit games.
|
|
gmmari
Adventuring Hero
|
|
posted July 26, 2007 12:06 AM |
|
|
ok let's do peace!
we are going out of the main topic and i will play for sure with no limit time if someone accept to fight..
I was only saying that are two different way and i can understand that a top player don't want to run for to win a game with a more weak player.
By the way for turn back to main topic i have some idea for to modify
something in the system of play (for example more information about all:tournaments,ranking,end season play.. but also a different management of the tourney and ranking)
that for me can be changed a little for to be more actractive for all..also that i think can improve seriusly for me the activity.
If someone more important than me (sq79,elit,fraudatio,or...)think that this can be possible or right(probably only for to talk and listen all voice and opinion)can open a new topic and i will be happy to say my opinion.
Sorry for my english i try to do my best good luck to all
|
|
Rethwen
Adventuring Hero
|
|
posted July 26, 2007 05:38 AM |
|
|
|
Well that one minute time limit you tried to impose put me off on playing you. Sorry but missing turns and not being able to build is not fun at all.
|
|
gmmari
Adventuring Hero
|
|
posted July 26, 2007 07:38 PM |
|
|
sorry rethwen but i don't remenber a game with you infact we don't have any game reported.
We start a game only one time and we was in 3 and was 2 min not 1.
we should continue that game the day after but you not come..
i have played only one time with 1 minute with antistatics and here we impose nothing to other we all do request if you not accept not play easy.
but now we discuss that is important to play time is only a preference
everyone play as he wants important is playing
good luck bye next time you see me contact me and i will play as you want
|
|
|
|
