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roy-algriffin
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posted October 26, 2007 09:05 AM |
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Well ive watched this thread with interest and i think what your doing is great!
still not much info on the whole on what your doing. except designing maps so far as such
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted October 27, 2007 12:25 AM |
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Thanks guys!
@Cepheus: All right let's just continue working on it and let's await the interest afterwarths.
@Moonlith: Well my Maps aren't as good as Nival's either, but after I'm done I'm going to do a pimping round to fill up emptynes and add some features.
@roy-algriffin: Thank you, I think. What kind of updates do you want and I'll post them.
By the way I heard from Daystar his Map is working again, luckily he didn't quit.
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 27, 2007 12:32 AM |
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Great. Do you remember that you were going to create Troglodytes from the Peasant model? Would it be possible for you to do that? I'll need them for the level 1 Nexus creature. Thanks a lot if yes.
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted October 27, 2007 03:47 AM |
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id like to know what new creatures your planning on implementing if its possible, and if your scrapping the sanctum or not really. Since i think the alternates are cool too
And how many maps in the whole campaign(s)? 55?
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted October 27, 2007 05:15 PM |
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@Cepheus: Well I'm not so good at Texturing, but I'll give it a try and will we use the lineup I thought of earlier?
Quote: Lvl 1: Trogdolyte
Lvl 1 Upg 1: Elder Trogdolyte
Lvl 1 Upg 2: Infernal Trogdolyte
Lvl 2: Beholder
Lvl 2 Upg 1: Evil Eye
Lvl 2 Upg 2: Greater Beholder
Lvl 3: Dimensional Warrior
Lvl 3 Upg 1: Dimensional Spellcaster
Lvl 3 Upg 2: Dimensional Ruler
Lvl 4: Thousand Eyed
Lvl 4 Upg 1: Argus
Lvl 4 Upg 2: Glarer
Lvl 5: Behemoth
Lvl 5 Upg 1: Mighty Behemoth
Lvl 5 Upg 2: Ancient Behemoth
Lvl 6: Blue Bird
Lvl 6 Upg 1: Sterling Phoenix
Lvl 6 Upg 2: Cerulean Firebird
Lvl 7: Sky Dragon
Lvl 7 Upg 1: Spatial Dragon
Lvl 7 Upg 2: Celestial Dragon
If so we still need to think of some Models and we need to rename things I'm not happy with all of them.
@roy-algriffin: That's for GotP and I cannot answer your questions since I do not know the answer
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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 27, 2007 05:31 PM |
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I thought about it for a while when I was thinking of which models would be best to use and I came up with this lineup. Opinions appreciated.
Lvl 1: Trogdolyte
Lvl 1 Upg 1: Infernal Trogdolyte
Lvl 1 Upg 2: Abberant Scourge
(Elder Troglodyte sounded weird.)
Lvl 2: I don't know. Probably the Beholder but we can't seem to find a good model for it so... hmm.
Lvl 3: Astral Sorceress
Lvl 3 Upg 1: Temporal Sorceress
Lvl 3 Upg 2: Planar Sorceress
(A spellcaster unit, loosely based on the WoG Astral Spirit. Model would be made from the Shadow Matriarch, masking the lower body and replacing it with the Genie effect, then changing the skin and hair colour.)
Lvl 4: Xepedon
Lvl 4 Upg 1: Xepedon Vanguard
Lvl 4 Upg 2: Azmedon
(A shooter. Model is basically a blue Fire Elemental without any fire - I've already made it thanks to Kronos's help. Vanguard is purple with some armour, Azmedon is green.)
Lvl 5: I have no idea.
Lvl 6: Omniscient
Lvl 6 Upg 1: Dream Wielder
Lvl 6 Upg 2: Worldweaver
(A powerful caster. Based on the multiplayer Ghost model. Dream Wielder is purple, Worldweaver is probably grey or something.)
Lvl 7: Flying Saucer
Lvl 7 Upg 1: Enigma Craft
Lvl 7 Upg 2: Void Shuttle
(The controversial one. The model is there and ready but I don't know whether anyone likes the idea. Personally I'd love the sense of triumph after fighting and defeating heroes with UFOs in their army, but that's me.)
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted October 27, 2007 08:07 PM |
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I'm working on the beholder: Sphere of Light + New Texture + Effect. Attack = Lich lazer thingy.
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Ted
Promising
Supreme Hero
Peanut Exterminator
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posted October 27, 2007 08:17 PM |
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i've sure i've been out of this too long, but heres what i think
@sad kronos: don't worry, people don't post here much because GotP comes with ToK, and you know that its a huge success, with posts in there happening every couple of days, they don't post here much, but have no fear, people will like this mod and if they don't..
.. we'll make them!
@Cep: wtf, seriously, i must be losing my mind, but that side/faction/group of weirdo's is a potentially huge hit, all you need to do is give pictures about it
however, whats the hero going to look like? cause that could be the flying machine would be fine, a new technilogical faction
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted October 27, 2007 11:40 PM |
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Thanks, new lineup definatly looks interesting!
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted October 27, 2007 11:46 PM |
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@Daystar: Great! But what about the Animations?
@Cepheus: How about Argus at Lv. 5? In the Greek Mythology hes was said to be a giant with 100 eyes, Doesn't that fit our theme? One of its upgrades should be named Argus Panoptes (Argus, the all seeing) dunno about the other upgrade. And our upgrades should have the same colours, I mean set 1 should wear purple and set 2 green to follow your colours. For your tier 7 unit personally I think it would be great, but does it fit Ashan/HoMM 5?
@Ted: There is a concept for the Hero on page 16 it's not Textured yet.
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Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
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Ted
Promising
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Peanut Exterminator
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posted October 28, 2007 12:06 AM |
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i read the concept, i'm still a bit muddled but i think i get the general idea of the thing, still, is this even going to practical for a download, my modem is a bit weird and files too big dont go down well, so if its say 1 GB we may need some compressing
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 28, 2007 12:16 AM |
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The Argus would be a great level 5! The only reason I didn't add it was because I had no idea about which model we'd use. Anyway I can finish the Xepedons, Omniscients and Flying Saucers myself, so thanks to yourself and Daystar that leaves only the Argus and the Sorceresses to work on.
Apart from the Troglodyte, the Flying Saucer and potentially the Beholder, the base units will be blue, the first upgrades will be purple / deeper blue and the second upgrades will be green.
The Flying Saucer probably doesn't go well with Ashan but it should fit right in to the Beginning Dimension, and since it should only appear on two campaign maps it should cause no real problems.
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Kronos1000
Promising
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Fryslân Boppe
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posted October 28, 2007 12:31 PM |
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@Ted: Don't worry it'll be an exe installer inside a rar archive.
@Cepheus: I'm not sure if I'm te right one to make the Troglodytes, I Heu/Saturated his skin green and then I tried to brush over the eyes, but it look wierd with just one colour there so I tried to add more colours with the brush now he looks really wierd, I guess I'm not made for Texturing Unless someone can tell me how to make colours look good I can't get it to look good. And shall we give the Omniscent and co. Incorporeal?
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Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 28, 2007 03:04 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 15:11, 28 Oct 2007.
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Not to worry, if you Mediafire me the troglodyte textures as they are I'll see if I can help. Incorporeal is a really overpowered ability, I don't think we should use it.
EDIT: Here is the Xepedon:
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted October 28, 2007 11:04 PM |
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All right I'll send them when I think they're finished, but he won't look too good and his helmet can't be masked But your Xepedon is looking great, he looks a lot better than expected without his fire. And I have thought of some abilities:
Troglodyte - Living Creature, Immume to Blindness
Infernal Troglodyte - Demonic, Immune to Blindness, Bash
Abberant Scourge - Living Creature, Immune to Blindness. (The Infernal one should be more offensive while the Abberant Scourge is defensive)
Beholder: Living Creature, Shooter, Evil Eye.
Upg. 1 (I don't want to name him Evil Eye since that's an ability) Living Creature, Shooter, Evil Eye, No Range Penalty.
Upg 2. (Greater Beholder?) Living Creature, Shooter, Evil Eye, Death Cloud
Astral Sorceress and co. Dunno, I don't have WoG.
Xepedon: Elemental, Shooter Dunno about the rest.
Xepedon Vanguard: Elemental, Shooter, Armoured.
Azmedon: Elemental, Shooter, either Venom or Acid Blood.
Argus: Living Creature, Large Creature, Evil Eye, (Can't think of anything else )
Argus Panoptes: Living Creature, Large Creature, Evil Eye, No Melee Penalty?
Upg. 2 (Glarer?): Living Creatue, Large Creature, Evil Eye, Sorrow Strike.
Omniscent: Elemental, Caster (What kind of Spells do you want I was thinking of Destructive) Cursing Attack.
Dream Wielder: Elemental, Caster (Even better Spells at higher Level) Hexing Attack, Sleep Strike, Stats shouldn't be too high since his Abilities make him strong.
Worldweaver: Undead, Caster (Pretty bad Spells) Cursing Attack, Incorporeal. Spells weaker, but Incorporeal is powerful hard to decide.
I'm not sure if using the UFO would be a good idea.
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 28, 2007 11:09 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 00:38, 29 Oct 2007.
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Xepedons aren't Elementals, Worldweavers aren't Undead. Otherwise, seems good to me, but I'm not much of a balancer when it comes to Heroes V so I can't judge. We should give a renamed version of Demonic to some of them, since the Planeswalker ability will be Gating.
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted October 29, 2007 04:29 PM |
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All right the Xepedons will be living Creatures, but there is a reason I made the Worldweavers Undead, because he is a Ghost and the others are Elementals so I thought if we make it green or grey it'll look a bit Necro lik so I thought Undead would be cool.
But renaming Demonic would something to think about we cannot add another Demonic wich is renamed. We could think of a common name, so that they can be used for both, but I have no idea what that could be.
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Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
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guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2007 04:39 PM |
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You could use Planewalker as a new name for demonic. I read that they(inferno) went back to their planet to gather reinforcement
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted October 29, 2007 04:42 PM |
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Maybe it would be cool, but of course their name is "Worldweavers" as in weavers of worlds = creators. Creators aren't often undead. Perhaps the Dream Wielders would be more suited?
Hmm, instead of Demonic then maybe we should simply give Planeswalkers the Irresistable Magic ability. But what about the town buildings? Can they be edited to turn Inferno racial ones into the Dungeon's?
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted October 29, 2007 08:49 PM |
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We have the Magic of the name switch. Could be done, but Sleep Strike will have to leave the Worldweaver since I gave it to him because of its name.
Oh and we can give the buildings Dungeon effects don't worry.
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Hwær cwom mearg? Hwær cwom mago?
Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
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