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ismail222
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posted August 02, 2007 04:20 AM |
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Most useless and most Useful units in HoMM5
Which units do u guys think are the most useless and most useful in HoMM5?
I dun know which unit would be most useful but i guess conscript is the most useless unit out there,they dun even have the taxpayer ability  
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Homer171
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posted August 02, 2007 08:03 AM |
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Conscript might be worse but i don't like Scout or Minotaurs either. Most useful would probably be Paladin.
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LiZaRdMeN
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posted August 02, 2007 09:33 AM |
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Conscript might be worse but i don't like Scout or Minotaurs either. Most useful would probably be Paladin.
For now most usefull is warlord and magma dragons-cast one them rune of berserking,then rune of battle rage,and the result is victory
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alcibiades
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posted August 02, 2007 09:38 AM |
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For now most usefull is warlord and magma dragons-cast one them rune of berserking,then rune of battle rage,and the result is victory
Ka-Ching, one for you Elvin. 
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LiZaRdMeN
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posted August 02, 2007 09:42 AM |
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For now most usefull is warlord and magma dragons-cast one them rune of berserking,then rune of battle rage,and the result is victory
Ka-Ching, one for you Elvin.
Omg ,i"m banal  But this is the coolest strategy for fortress.
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ismail222
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posted August 02, 2007 12:36 PM |
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For now most usefull is warlord and magma dragons-cast one them rune of berserking,then rune of battle rage,and the result is victory
i think i read those exact 2 lines like 800 billion times
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LiZaRdMeN
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posted August 02, 2007 03:45 PM |
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For now most usefull is warlord and magma dragons-cast one them rune of berserking,then rune of battle rage,and the result is victory
i think i read those exact 2 lines like 800 bilion times
well,this is the coolest strategy
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ismail222
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posted August 02, 2007 04:13 PM |
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yeah i know,u've already said that,u dun have to repeat everything u say cause this is just annoying(no offence)
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phoenixreborn
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posted August 02, 2007 04:30 PM |
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For me I find the ancient treant very useful.
Least useful for me are minotaurs and war dancers.
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Bombur
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posted August 02, 2007 04:47 PM |
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inferno most usefull:familiares,succubus mistress and pit lord
useless:horned demon
haven usefull aladin,Archangel,squire
uselessriest,conscript
Sylvan usefull:Ancient treant
useless:blade dancer
Academy usefull:Rakshashas
useless:?
Dungeon usefull:Blood fury,hydras
useless:scout
Necropolis usefull:Wraiths,Vampire lords
useless:zombies
Fortress usefull:Warlord
useless:brawlers
I think the most useless unit is the zombie.Second place is conscript and 3rd blade dancer.
The most usefull I think is the pit lord.They have powerfuul spells and are mighty creatures guaranted to kill any type of creature if the y are provoked.Second place could be overlord,and 3rd maybe familiares.
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ismail222
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posted August 03, 2007 12:09 AM |
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i've thought about the most useful unit and i figured that it just depends on how late/early is the game,dungeon for instance
most useful at early game are blood furies
most useless at early game are scouts
most useful at mid/late game is of course the hydra
most useless at mid/late game are minotaurs/furies
for haven the most useless are the conscripts for early/mid/late game
and for early/mid game i think most useful are the marksmen/griffins
and w/o a doubt for late game are paladins/archangels/marksmen
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phoenixreborn
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posted August 03, 2007 12:13 AM |
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I think the most useless unit is the zombie.
You can raise a ton of zombies and under orson that's scary.
The pit lord and shadow matriarch are terrible level 6's. The first because of low initiative (even boosted) the second because of poor damage output.
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The_Gootch
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posted August 03, 2007 12:29 AM |
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No complaints about the pit lord. Because of gating the low initiative must be considered a balancing feature. More I play Inferno though the weaker it gets. Pound for pound, only the Familiars and the Nightmares stack up to similar levels from other towns.
However, the Matriarchs are just great support units. Dungeon has enough damaging units in its lineup that it doesn't need a wtfpwnj00 awesome damage dealer at level 6. For the job she does, buffing and cursing, she's awesome. Between slows, and good ones at that, and confusions, 2 stacks of Matriarchs make you not regret that your hero doesn't have dark magic.
Assassins are terrible units all around. If their growth rate improved measurably they'd be fine.
Zombies make fine walls for your pile of skelly archers and ammo cart. Initiative's too low to make me consider using Orson though.
Minotaurs, since they fall under everyone's radar because of Dungeon's potent lineup, are quick to make you remember they can be a force on the battlefield. No Warlock worth their salt is going to go without Luck. Double Swing plays this up for some pretty awesome damage potential. They make a great counter to other town's levels 1-3s.
Just make sure they don't have to move too much.
Most useful?
Without a doubt the Paladin. Noone beats super high damage potential and lay hands. Noone.
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baklava
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posted August 03, 2007 12:40 AM |
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Yes but warlords and magma dragons, with rune of berserking and rune of battle rage... j/k
Uhm, I dunno, I find blade dancers rather useless... unupgraded genies are also kinda crappy... and spear throwers would be an utter waste of cash if it weren't for that crippling ability.
While, say, hunters are one of my favourite units all around. Mages are also great, treants are pwnage, I like rune patriarchs too... Hm, can't decide strictly on which is the best and which is the worst. Depends on the situation mostly
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ismail222
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posted August 03, 2007 12:50 AM |
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Yes but warlords and magma dragons, with rune of berserking and rune of battle rage... j/k
lmao
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Daystar
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posted August 03, 2007 03:49 AM |
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useless: Zombies
usefull: Hunters
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alcibiades
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posted August 03, 2007 10:09 AM |
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No complaints about the pit lord. Because of gating the low initiative must be considered a balancing feature. More I play Inferno though the weaker it gets. Pound for pound, only the Familiars and the Nightmares stack up to similar levels from other towns.
I have to agree with that. Particularly with regard to Imps, who are not only on par with other level ones but easily out-bests them. The qualities of the Imps are this:
- Excellent stats: Attack 3 is very good.
- Excellent damage: 2-3 is a very high and reliable damage for level 1 unit.
- Swift: Initiative 13 rocks, and works very well with Gating.
- Drains enemy mana, and completely pacifies all spellcasters except perhaps Wizards.
- Comes in huge numbers, which works very well Demon Lord affinity for Attack and Battle Frenzy and Claw of the Bloody Maw.
As I see it, there simply is nothing to dislike about these small guys.
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Olo
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posted August 03, 2007 11:15 AM |
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Edited by Olo at 11:15, 03 Aug 2007.
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Academy usefull:Rakshashas
useless:?
Have you forgotten about djinnies ? Their role on battlefield is to die i think it`s the worst creature in HOMM5
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emilsn
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posted August 03, 2007 11:50 AM |
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Fortress Useful: Black bear riders, Berserkers, Warlords
Fortress useless: Ahaha... Brawlers , but you upgrade them
I dont like conscript but that is why i dont upgrade peasents... I just let them stay at town and gain me those few money i can get of them...
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LiZaRdMeN
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posted August 03, 2007 12:07 PM |
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 YEs brawler is useless and ugly ,but cast rune of berserk,rune of battle rage on berserker,activate berserker rage and see the devaustating result
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