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Magister180888
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posted September 13, 2007 01:30 PM |
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Why don't you inspire yourself with the castle created by the French
site archangelcastle:
Index
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kingdon1975
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posted September 13, 2007 01:38 PM |
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Sirens at tier 6 seems like a decent idea, although it would leave the town lacking high level shooters.
I don't believe you need shooters particularly at lvl's 6 and 7,not many factions do.Although your Squid at lvl 6 can squirt ink at enemy and cause blindness.
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kingdon1975
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posted September 13, 2007 01:51 PM |
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Why don't you inspire yourself with the castle created by the French
site archangelcastle:
[url=http://www.archangelcastle.com/h5/FAC/index.htm]Index[/url]
I clicked on link,but it does'nt work.
I got it working.
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sheensher
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and Slipknot FAn
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posted September 13, 2007 02:17 PM |
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Moonlith
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posted September 13, 2007 02:37 PM |
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Edited by Moonlith at 14:37, 13 Sep 2007.
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Hmmm so many good / fun options... I'm heavily opposed though to adding reptilian creatures to this sort of faction. They are reserved for Dungeon and a swamp town - let's keep them there 
That aside, mermaids might be more recognized, but I'm personally not sure how 'violent' they are in nature... The main two types I personally recognize are seductive mermaids and mermen wielding tridents. Third or even fourth, name it But at least those two are keepers. As are the crustacean and probably also the shark and eel. (I'm actually surprised the eel is thought to be a good one xD It's just a stupid animal really...)
What about the Liopleurodon?
http://bastardos.es/Monstruos_marinos/Imagenes/liopleurodon.jpg
Giant seaserpents are fun, but I wouldn't know what sort of abilities to give those. What about making our own concept? Picture a blue sort of Draconic serpent with only wings and no legs, the wings resembling fins. That seems fun to add to add to such a faction, it kind of fits. Squidy shoved to 6 then.
*needs more help with tier locations* xD
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 13, 2007 02:48 PM |
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*needs more help with tier locations* xD
What do you mean ,,tier locations"?
I think that Liupleo... whatever is a creature too lizardry to be in your no lizard town.
And? Are they an evil faction or not?
Do they want to keep their seas and oceans safe, or to turn all land in to an endless oceans, thus killing every non-water creature?
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Moonlith
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posted September 13, 2007 03:02 PM |
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I mean, what creatures would fit on what tier levels, and what do you guys think their lineup should look like type wise.
Haven is : 1 - walker, 2 - shooter, 3 - tank, 4 - flyer 5 - shooter / caster, 6 - walker , 7 - flyer.
What about this faction? I initially pictured two or three shooters and one or two casters, given their defensive nature
The evil / good thing is as well a thing I wouldn't know.
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 13, 2007 03:17 PM |
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Hmm... There could be no flyer's, that's for sure.
Two rangers, One caster, One or two tanks, Two walkers (crawlers, swimmers).
Oy, do you know how to post a pic bellow this or any text?
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Moonlith
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posted September 13, 2007 03:21 PM |
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Well flyers can be done. For example, the squids could crawl across objects and walls, thus making them flyers, technically. But that could create trouble with the firewalls and such, and moats. Flyers arent affected, but squid should be.
The flying seaserpents would also be a flyer Any town needs at least 1 flyer.
As for the images, I have no idea xD But to the left it gives an option to add an image. the [img] cose thing right ?
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kingdon1975
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posted September 14, 2007 12:20 PM |
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Before viewing the list please strongly consider drawing as much influence from HOMM 4
as possible,there's a couple HOMM 4 creatures that should definately be in it,I'm sure
most are familiar with HOMM 4,but if your not,download it and pay particular attention
to the(I think it's called)Pirates Daughter campaign.Maybe this should be more of a Thief,
Pirate,Marauder,Ocean Mercenary\Freelancer(whatever you wanna call em')type faction,which
live there lives basically at sea thus having a great knowledge and connection with the
creatures in it.I believe this would be better thtan having a totally Aquatic and dependant
on Aquatic faction.
O.K.here it is,creatures by tier\upgrade..
1.Eel/Electric Eel
Due to it's chance to stun,it's reduced damage from melee\ranged attacks and high
initiative and speed(I think it should move one more square in speed than any other
factions creatures),this creature should be the weakest and most vunerable creature
out of all faction creatures.That should be balanced.No stormstrike.when it strikes
a new visual affect should occur.The affected creature would have charges of electricity
running through the for a moment,would look like Titans electrical affect.
2.Mercenary/Pirate
Both human ofcourse,mercenaries would be a knife thrower/(sword)melee when out of ammo
with fair speed so they aren't totally pathetic after running out of shots.And pirates
would be gun shooter/(sword)melee when out of ammo with better speed than mercenary.Can
someone else work out Att,Def,etc.I'm no good at that part,just an ideas man.
2.Mermaid/Mermaid Shaman
This is a must(check em' out in HOMM 4,they're not that nice)because most would be familiar
with them.mermaid(melee)would'nt have too much speed,fair Att. and Dam.and 75%-80% chance of causing
confusion on Att.and mermaid shaman melee/caster.Upon casting(this should be lightning strike,but
horizontally discharged from trident)would have an 90% chance of paralysis and a 10% chance of frenzy
"Be afraid,Be very,very afraid"
4.Shark/Shark Surfer
This is where we can see your Mermen,Moonlith,as Shark Surfers.Don't have many idea's to
it's abilities,but it would be a very interesting new addition.I do think it would be good
for both shark and shark surfer to have bloodlust,or as we know it now,righteous might.In the
shark surfers case we could see the merman apply RM before each of it's turn by doing a wave
with his trident.Bit of a novelty maybe.
5.Siren/Sea Witch
Sing a song(great new spell)for both siren and sea witch.Siren caster/melee,only one spell(sing
a song).Special attack for siren only,can make melee Att. from back line/front line to enemy
creature directly in front only,slashing enemy with the sharp claws on its hands(left and right).
Sea witch (caster)has two extra spells,circle of winter and "new"Sonic scream.Sonic Scream makes
2-3 enemy stacks(does'nt even matter if mechanical or undead)lose a turn and all living take damage.
6.Giant Squid/Kraken
Starting to get tired,can't think of a lot for this one.Both caster/melee.unique spells for both.
G.S.spells ink shroud(on self only)and ink squirt(causing blindness)on single enemy target.Kraken's
spells ink curtain and ink spray:targets all enemy stacks and effects 1-2.
7.Sea Serpent/Storm Serpent
Once again,getting tired,brain slowing down,thinking for this one,limited.Sea Serpent(walker)
Bites,very hard,lol.Storm Serpent(flyer)good to upgrade if you are attacking castle,breaths frost.
Savage frost bite,savage damage,freeze effect on remaining stack.Does'nt have great speed though.
Remember I'm just an ideas man in this quest for an aquatic type faction,I hope all you pplz out
there on HC appreciate my contribution.I know there's plenty of HOMM experts out there that can
tweak these ideas a bit fix some good attributes to each creature.
Hope most of this has put a smile on your face Moonlith,btw,I'm sorry that I left your crustacean
out,but thinking of crustaceans makes me think about prawns and pippies.
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GenieLord
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posted September 14, 2007 04:41 PM |
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1.Eel/Electric Eel
Due to it's chance to stun,it's reduced damage from melee\ranged attacks and high
initiative and speed(I think it should move one more square in speed than any other
factions creatures),this creature should be the weakest and most vunerable creature
out of all faction creatures.That should be balanced.No stormstrike.when it strikes
a new visual affect should occur.The affected creature would have charges of electricity
running through the for a moment,would look like Titans electrical affect.
I wouldn't really want to see an eel in the game, BUT the eel may have interesting tactical uses, becuase of its electrical powers. You can do so many original special abilties with it; Higher damage to creatures that suffered water spells, stunning effect, immunity to lightnings or even strengthening by lightnings. 
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2.Mercenary/Pirate
Both human ofcourse,mercenaries would be a knife thrower/(sword)melee when out of ammo
with fair speed so they aren't totally pathetic after running out of shots.And pirates
would be gun shooter/(sword)melee when out of ammo with better speed than mercenary.Can
someone else work out Att,Def,etc.I'm no good at that part,just an ideas man.
Mercenary sounds very nice, good idea. I just can't see how it upgrades into a Pirate.
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3.Mermaid/Mermaid Shaman
This is a must(check em' out in HOMM 4,they're not that nice)because most would be familiar
with them.mermaid(melee)would'nt have too much speed,fair Att. and Dam.and 75%-80% chance of causing
confusion on Att.and mermaid shaman melee/caster.Upon casting(this should be lightning strike,but
horizontally discharged from trident)would have an 90% chance of paralysis and a 10% chance of frenzy
"Be afraid,Be very,very afraid"
The Mermaid is a good creature for this kind of faction, but I've never heard about Mermaid Shamans.
Anyway, isn't it overpowered that 77.5% of the Mermaid's attacks will cause confusion? I think that if you want to use this ability, you should reduce the chance to maximum of 25%.
Well, there are some good ideas here, but as a faction it's pretty overpowered. Reduce the amount of casters and shooters.
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 14, 2007 10:32 PM |
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Well, there are some good ideas here, but as a faction it's pretty overpowered. Reduce the amount of casters and shooters.
But we don't know their possible HP, ATT, and DEF so we you can't really say that they are overpowered.
Same for their racial skill. Maybe it would be overpowered (like the dwarven runes), or not.
Crustacean is a very good idea because they need a tank (I don't know if Giant Squid is considered as one).
I would really like to see how their town would look like, it is possible that it would be the most coolest city visualy.
But then, how would you lay a siege against that town.
(It's in a cave, their buildings peeping out of the water, if I remember correctly).
Eel would need to have a very high defence, because of it's size.
(I've never tried too shoot or hit an eel, but it's squirmy )
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2.Mercenary/Pirate
Both human ofcourse,mercenaries would be a knife thrower/(sword)melee when out of ammo
with fair speed so they aren't totally pathetic after running out of shots.And pirates
would be gun shooter/(sword)melee when out of ammo with better speed than mercenary.Can
someone else work out Att,Def,etc.I'm no good at that part,just an ideas man.
I like the idea. Pirates are great, but I'm not so sure about their gun as a weapon. Would it fit to the world of Heroes?
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Daystar
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Back from the Dead
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posted September 14, 2007 10:48 PM |
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NO!
to quote Anne Summers in reference to guns: "These things? Never Helpful."
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kingdon1975
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I really am the Godfather
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posted September 15, 2007 10:20 AM |
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Thx GenieLord for the feedback
Like I said before,I'm just an idea's man,I'm not skilled enough on the game to be setting
HP's,Att's,etc.,so I need ppl to do the patch work for me.I appreciate the feedback so far,
and Moonlith I'm not trying to snatch your idea,just expanding on it like you've asked us to
do.
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I wouldn't really want to see an eel in the game, BUT the eel may have interesting tactical uses, becuase of its electrical powers. You can do so many original special abilties with it; Higher damage to creatures that suffered water spells, stunning effect, immunity to lightnings or even strengthening by lightnings.
I'm not a big fan of Eel's themselves but they will be a good strategic creature tactically
like you said,btw good thoughts on that one
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Mercenary sounds very nice, good idea. I just can't see how it upgrades into a Pirate.
How about Drifter/Mercenary:
Drifter:knife thrower(shooter)/melee,and Mercenary:gun(shooter)/melee?
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The Mermaid is a good creature for this kind of faction, but I've never heard about Mermaid Shamans.
Anyway, isn't it overpowered that 77.5% of the Mermaid's attacks will cause confusion? I think that if you want to use this ability, you should reduce the chance to maximum of 25%.
How about 25% chance to cause confusion for mermaid(no casting,just on attack) and with upgrade,
whatever were gonna call it 32% chance of causing confusion and 8% chance of frenzy upon casting
from trident with the unique horizontal lightning strike,as I spoke of earlier?
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kingdon1975
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I really am the Godfather
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posted September 15, 2007 10:29 AM |
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But we don't know their possible HP, ATT, and DEF so we you can't really say that they are overpowered.
Same for their racial skill. Maybe it would be overpowered (like the dwarven runes), or not.
that's the right response there MornVatreniVuk,arranging and fine tuning of the attributes will lvl it all outthx mate.
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Crustacean is a very good idea because they need a tank (I don't know if Giant Squid is considered as one).
I would definately call GS a tank.
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Eel would need to have a very high defence, because of it's size.
(I've never tried too shoot or hit an eel, but it's squirmy)
The Eel does'nt need high defence,it has such a high evasion %.
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2.Mercenary/Pirate
Both human ofcourse,mercenaries would be a knife thrower/(sword)melee when out of ammo
with fair speed so they aren't totally pathetic after running out of shots.And pirates
would be gun shooter/(sword)melee when out of ammo with better speed than mercenary.Can
someone else work out Att,Def,etc.I'm no good at that part,just an ideas man.
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I like the idea. Pirates are great, but I'm not so sure about their gun as a weapon. Would it fit to the world of Heroes?
If you think about it the Gremlins use gunpowder,so why not have a mercenary using it in one of those old hand held cannons
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GenieLord
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posted September 15, 2007 10:42 AM |
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How about Drifter/Mercenary:
Drifter:knife thrower(shooter)/melee,and Mercenary:gun(shooter)/melee?
Well, bixie and I have argued about that a lot, but in my opinion, gunpowers and anything related to that should stay out of HOMM. If you have a battle against a Hunter, who would win, the gun or the arrow? It just doesn't feel... Ancient and magical.
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How about 25% chance to cause confusion for mermaid(no casting,just on attack) and with upgrade,
whatever were gonna call it 32% chance of causing confusion and 8% chance of frenzy upon casting
from trident with the unique horizontal lightning strike,as I spoke of earlier?
Frenzy spell makes the creature to attack the nearest one with a huge damage. If you have just attacked the enemy and it's Frenzied, it will attack YOU! 
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 15, 2007 10:44 AM |
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If you think about it the Gremlins use gunpowder,so why not have a mercenary using it in one of those old hand held cannons
A good point there, i forgot about Gremlins.
Now, Moonlith just needs to find some good hacker/game maker , who will make a patch with Aquatic Town and launch it to the Black Market.
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 15, 2007 10:46 AM |
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Frenzy spell makes the creature to attack the nearest one with a huge damage. If you have just attacked the enemy and it's Frenzied, it will attack YOU!
Man, what an answer!
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kingdon1975
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I really am the Godfather
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posted September 15, 2007 10:48 AM |
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How about Drifter/Mercenary:
Drifter:knife thrower(shooter)/melee,and Mercenary:gun(shooter)/melee?
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Well, bixie and I have argued about that a lot, but in my opinion, gunpowers and anything related to that should stay out of HOMM. If you have a battle against a Hunter, who would win, the gun or the arrow? It just doesn't feel... Ancient and magical.Quote:
Well what can we use that's original?Scout/Assasin already has the crossbow.
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How about 25% chance to cause confusion for mermaid(no casting,just on attack) and with upgrade,
whatever were gonna call it 32% chance of causing confusion and 8% chance of frenzy upon casting
from trident with the unique horizontal lightning strike,as I spoke of earlier?
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Frenzy spell makes the creature to attack the nearest one with a huge damage. If you have just attacked the enemy and it's Frenzied, it will attack YOU!
Chance to confuse/frenzy from upgrade would be a spell like action,cast from trident.
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kingdon1975
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I really am the Godfather
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posted September 15, 2007 10:50 AM |
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A good point there, i forgot about Gremlins.
Now, Moonlith just needs to find some good hacker/game maker, who will make a patch with Aquatic Town and launch it to the Black Market.
lol,,I like it,"the black market",lol,I'm in tears.
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