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Dajek
Known Hero
Psychedelic Knight
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posted November 04, 2001 05:34 PM |
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Poll Question:
Best magic school
Okay, everybody, which is the best?
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darkspirit
Famous Hero
aka Zutus
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posted November 04, 2001 05:47 PM |
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Well, it's very hard to tell which magic school is best, 'cause the game isn't even released so how could I have tested them?! But I voted for nature, 'cause the idea of summoning new creatures sounds cool, so I voted for the one I probably like the most.
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Preserver
Promising
Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
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posted November 04, 2001 06:15 PM |
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You can't guess what I voted for... :oP
Don't sure if nature is going to be the best... NWC are doing everything to balance the game.. But talking about so far favourites, I think voted for the right thing... Yep, summon is cool  ...
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Wyvern
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 04, 2001 08:36 PM |
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It depends on you - do you like to attack the enemies with spells or to defend your creatures... Someone may like the town but not the magic school that is in it and vice versa. What should he choose? The magic that he likes or the town that he likes?
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Xenophanes
Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
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posted November 04, 2001 10:11 PM |
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Chaos is easily going to be the best school. Let's think here:
Chaos is the school of Magic that specializes in doing the most direct damage very quickly. Now, Chaos magic is the only school that really has spells like that, putting other schools at an extreme disadvantage - things such as lightning bolt, chain lightning, and other direct damage spells make up a huge part of magical combat.
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted November 04, 2001 10:17 PM |
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I bet all my money on chaos. The best defence is the attack.I say "kick their a**es"
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MANE, TEKEL, FARES
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Xenophanes
Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
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posted November 04, 2001 10:19 PM |
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I love it when someone really agrees with me on these things...
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StormWarning
Promising
Famous Hero
Archmage of Thunder
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posted November 05, 2001 09:37 PM |
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Until I see the spell lists, I won't vote
because I think each will have its own special advantages and disadvantages. Chaos will definitely be the most straight-forward, but I think Nature and Order will be more versatile and Life and Death a bit more subtle in their effectiveness.
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted November 05, 2001 09:41 PM |
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Although death should be my speciality as a necro, due to it's subtility I can't afford when fighting against a strong adversary to wait for it's efects ( but let's see first what death's capable of).You have to hit hard and be the first to do so.
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MANE, TEKEL, FARES
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ThE_HyDrA
Admirable
Famous Hero
The Leader of all Hydras
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posted November 06, 2001 07:09 AM |
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Best Magic School?
This, really is a very illogical question. Are you planning to answer it yourself, or do we count as your dictator?
No offense meant 
Anyway, it really depends on two main reasons; what your style is, and what situation you find yourself in at the time.
Taking the former into perspective, if you like to really blast your opponent out of the water, go ahead and use the spells like Armaggedon and Implosion. Or you may like enhancing your creatures before you jump in at full bore, you could then use spells such as slayer, bless, haste and others like these. Another fancied method is to create illusions, and summon elementals to compete against others for you, and in the process, only losing spell points, and not creatures.
Something that we do not associate with spells as much is their use outside of battle. The spells which are cast can be extremely beneficial to your cause. Such as using Dimension Door. You may go almost anywhere at your discretion. Town Portal you could use to get to your town quickly, without having to troop halway across the land, especially if it an extra-large. View Heroes, Visions, and Summon Boat are very cheap spells that I found useful in the context of a large scenario.
If you take the latter, you could be sailing through the ocean, and need to get to a castle before your neighbour does. You specialise in Chaos Magic, is it really going to help you? No. If you were equipped with another order which specialised in movement and outside-battle acticity, you would find that order much more forthcoming and useful than Chaos Magic, and it that context, it would certainly be better to have. But, on the other hand, you are situated in the middle of a castle siege, and the opponent has a much stronger army than you possess. It would help you minutely if you specialised in Order magic. It would be a lot better to your cause if you had Chaos or Death magic handy to fully annihilate the enemy. Another method is to enhance your troops and than attack with heightened strength and ability.
So, really the best magic system could be Death, Order, Life, or Nature.
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"Dragons may breathe fire, but Hydras have many heads." - The Creed of Hydras
"As the Dragon drew its breath, the Hydra pounced, swiftly but powerfully, and the Dragon was defeated.”
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Jenova
Famous Hero
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posted November 06, 2001 07:50 AM |
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Life. The only school that can heal right? And resurrection.. probably the best reason to take life magic.
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted November 06, 2001 10:24 PM |
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Resurrection,...yes, only if you will still have a hero after I cast my implosion.But it's to early to say which is best, and to tell you the truth I think this time the guys at 3do did a good job in balancing the spells.I think it will be only a matter of personal preferences in choosing the order, and not an obvious advantage.
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Darion
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 07, 2001 01:35 AM |
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I would chose life... because I personally always have. Healing plus blessings probably, as well as maybe regenerative spells and turn undead and maybe even a direct damage spell thrown in there for good effect.
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UnkaHaakon
Responsible
Famous Hero
happily tilting at windmills
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posted November 07, 2001 02:32 AM |
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Moderators hat off for this post
Since nobody has mentioned it yet ...what about the "Sixth School of Magic" .... i.e. None?
Let's assume Implosion is still in the game, and a Chaos spell. Odds are it'll be 5th level again. This requires Grandmaster Chaos magic to cast. Given that one of the interviews stated that you need to be Grandmaster in the two secondary skills of Healing and Meditation to get Grandmaster Life magic, that probably applies to all schools of magic. You'll need Grandmaster in the 'spell power' and 'spellpoints' skill to be Grandmaster in that school.
Now, consider a Barbarian with Grandmaster Resistance, and at least master level in some of the Combat or Tactics skills and sub-skills. (say, Archery, Offense, and Toughness) And look out for your Chaos mage's behind.
The truth of the matter is that the designers have made a serious attempt to balance everything out, and that means pure Might should take an equal place on the field again. Not superior ... just equal.
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Lith-Maethor
Honorable
Legendary Hero
paid in Coin and Cleavage
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posted November 07, 2001 02:35 AM |
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since balance is the key...
...I will choose according to what i like... Nature Magic... it's in the Preserve after all...
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Oldtimer
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted November 07, 2001 02:43 AM |
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I like the Idea behind Order magic. Illusions and mind control. I hope that the hypnotise spell is actually worthwhile, there is nothing more fun than attacking a guy with his own troops.
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StormWarning
Promising
Famous Hero
Archmage of Thunder
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posted November 07, 2001 09:55 PM |
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Quote:
Given that one of the interviews stated that you need to be Grandmaster in the two secondary skills of Healing and Meditation to get Grandmaster Life magic, that probably applies to all schools of magic.
I think that's been changed. In the GamePen preview (I think), the writer mentioned that for all primary skills, you must have the first two secondaries for that skill each at two levels below the one you want to get (both must be at Basic to get Expert ____, both must be at Advanced to become a Master, and both must be at Expert to become a Grandmaster). Even so, it'll still be difficult to get Implosion, and heroes with Resistance will hardly be affected (w/ Grandmaster Resistance they won't). That's why Chaos may not be the best. You can deal with creatures (other than those with Chaos Ward), but heroes with Resistance can't be touched by it. Beneficial spells (Life, Nature, and maybe some Order) may become more useful than harmful spells (Death, Chaos, some Order), especially when facing other heroes.
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Svetac
Promising
Known Hero
Saintified Paladin
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posted November 28, 2001 03:27 AM |
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As far as the Implosion is concerned I don't think that it will end up in the Chaos magic school. Why? Because Chaos school is closest to the Fire school from HOMM3. And Implosion was Earth magic. On the other hand Earth magic had ressurection and animate dead. One that belongs to the Life magic now, and the second that goes in the Death school.
On the CHU forum I've asked Jonah of Game Pen to tell me something more about the game, since he has playtested HOMM4. He was not willing enough to say much, but he told me that the Death magic had some pretty cool offensive spells.
And since we know that the Life magic is all about defence and healing, I can say that the Implosion belongs to the Death magic school.
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted November 28, 2001 06:46 PM |
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If we're talking about the spell which give the highest damage in the game, then it MUST be in Chaos Magic. Anything else is an insult on the system which dictates that Chaos specializes in damage spells.
For Implostion I can see three ways out. It can:
a: be gone from the game.
b: be toned down so it's not the most powerful spell any more, it would then IMO probably be in Death, or perhaps in Naure. (But not in Order or Life)
c: be in Chaos Magic
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Svetac
Promising
Known Hero
Saintified Paladin
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posted November 28, 2001 07:12 PM |
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b: be toned down so it's not the most powerful spell any more, it would then IMO probably be in Death...
I'll stick to this one. But that's just me
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