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Paladin
Adventuring Hero
Huh?
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posted December 10, 2004 01:53 PM |
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1. Wisdom
2. Air/Earth/Fire/Water Magic
3. Archery
4. Leadership
5. Luck
6. Artillery
7. Estates
8. Armorer
In no particular order.
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Conan
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted December 10, 2004 02:38 PM |
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Quote:
1. WISDOM !!!
2. earth magic
3. air magic (Haste, chain light., fly)
4. intelligence (love those spell points)
5. resistance (makes me laugh)
6. sorcery (Spell power!!)
7. logistics
8. Necromancy or archery or navigation (depending on the map/town) or scouting (for my scout!!)
Never, never fire magic (I don't play with Inferno), first aid, estates or learning.
Paladin, thank you so much for reviving this thread!!!
wow. I look at my choices and laugh. Now, and only now do I understand why Stiven called be a N00b.
hehehe... I'm still laughing!!! LOLOLOLOLOL
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Your life as it has been is over. From this time forward, you will service.... us. - Star Trek TNG
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Brian_The_Fist
Hired Hero
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posted May 18, 2005 03:12 AM |
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Early Birds
These are your favourite skills.
1 Logistics
2 Wisdom
3 Earth Magic
4 Diplomacy
5 Air Magic
6 Water Magic
7 Intelligence
8 Pathfinding
9 Fire Magic
10 Tactics
11 Estates
12 Leadership
13 Luck
It is your obligatory choice to learn them in this order.
1, 3, 5, 4, 7, 12, 2, 6, 13, 10, 11, 9, 8
Because of Hitler you have all skills active.
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Patashu
Adventuring Hero
I'm sure something goes here..
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posted May 18, 2005 07:58 AM |
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How can a choice be obligatory? Doesn't that make it forced?
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a_rebirthing...
Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
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posted May 18, 2005 08:09 AM |
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meh
heres what i would go for
log
wisdom
earth
air
intel
offense
armorer
always depends on map/castle stuff. either water, path or navigation
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'Tis better to rely on the the wit of your brain rather than the speed of your hands and mouse -me
Being happy isn't just an emotion, it's a choice!-Leo_Lion
It's Gortex!!!
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guitarguy
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Rockoon.
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posted May 18, 2005 11:29 AM |
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1. Logistics
2. Diplomacy
3. Archery
4. Magic School (preferably Earth or Air)
5. Armorer
6. Offense
7. Pathfinding
8. Leadership
-guitarguy
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maretti
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted May 18, 2005 11:51 AM |
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Here are the skills i go for in prioritized order:
(of course I sometimes choose diffrently due to town choice and template)
1. logistics (speed is everything)
2. earth magic (mass slow is very important killing huge stacks of noneshooters, the best spell in the game)
3. offense (your powerstacks need to do some damage)
4. air magic (view air, mass haste is very important for mainfight)
5. armorer (keeps things alive)
6. tactics (makes many battles, especially vs shooters, so much easier, can be very helpfull placing fodder or lvl 7 creatures within striking distance to get the enemy forward)
7. pathfinding (speed again, but not nearly as important as logistics)
8. resistance (so funny when opponents implosion is resisted, after mass haste its a good thing that some troops resists the mass slow counter)
9. archery (doing more damage is allways nice)
10. wisdom (often not very important because guilds are so expensive and u can get high level spells from books, hate to get empty boxes though)
11. scouting (can save u a lot of movement not going in the wrong direction)
12. fire magic (beserk and curse can be usefull, but since u can only use one spell pr. round u normally dont need more than earth and air)
13. water magic (bless, cure, prayer can be usefull too)
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 18, 2005 03:57 PM |
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tactics as 6th slot?
id take it ahead of both air magic and armorer.
and scouting on main is a waste of space, better leave the scouting to the scouts 
Finally having wisdom is always good.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 18, 2005 04:00 PM |
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My skills in prefered order:
1. Earth (To get expert slow early, for me that is much more important than getting log. To run into a horde of level 6 units from longer distance doesnīt help to beat them (if no expert slow), coz u donīt get a jousting bonus for your hero..)
2. Logistics (Speed is very important)
3. Armorer (Ask Tazar for more infos...)
4. Offense (Ask Crag Hack for more infos...)
5. Tactics (As already mentioned, it makes many fights so much easier...)
6. Water (Yes..i always prefer water before air. Only one air spell is really good and used often, haste. But mass cure, mass bless, mass prayer, expert clone, expert forgetfullness, expert teleport....much more usefull in my eyes ...)
7. Pathfinding/Resistance/Leadership (depends on town/map/main hero. Most treasure areas are desert, so path is cool, resistance can decide the endfight sometimes, and i find moral more and more usefull. Sometimes unbelievable how often opponent can get moral in one fight (What do u think Rusty?..))
8. Wisdom/Archery/Artillery (Depends on towns, wisdom helps when u donīt have an utopia/tome in your area to get good level 4 spells, archery only usefull for Tower,Castle and Dungeon in my eyes, Artillery when having a barbarian as main)
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Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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gnohmon
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 18, 2005 04:49 PM |
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My skills in prefered order:
(...snip...)
6. Water (Yes..i always prefer water before air. Only one air spell is really good and used often, haste. But mass cure, mass bless, mass prayer, expert clone, expert forgetfullness, expert teleport....much more usefull in my eyes ...)
8. Wisdom/Archery/Artillery (Depends on towns, wisdom helps when u donīt have an utopia/tome in your area to get good level 4 spells, archery only usefull for Tower,Castle and Dungeon in my eyes, Artillery when having a barbarian as main)
Expert clone is hard to cast without Advanced Wisdom, unless, of course, you have a tome or scroll. Are they really so common?
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maretti
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted May 18, 2005 05:44 PM |
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6. Water (Yes..i always prefer water before air. Only one air spell is really good and used often, haste.
U dont find view air usefull??
Sir Steven, tactics can be more usefull than armorer in many games so maybe it should be 5th, but i still find air better than tactics. If u enter a mainfight with only earth magic u can very quickly find urself in deap trouble
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patriot_pulsar
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 19, 2005 02:43 AM |
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hey thats my order:
EARTH (but u almost never get it first, i think i had it only 1 game first)
LOGISTIC (because u can travel more and gain more experience)
OFFENCE (got it almost always)
DEFENCE
AIR OR WATER (depends if i got earth already i will pick probably water, on what spells i got and etc, mostly it is air though)
ARCHERY
LEADERSHIP
and finall which i almost never take but i think it is could be important is resistance because game ago it saved me, without it i would of been a dead meat
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Once i believe i can make impossible happen and i will beat angelito
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 19, 2005 11:44 AM |
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6. Water (Yes..i always prefer water before air. Only one air spell is really good and used often, haste.
U dont find view air usefull??
Sure i do.
But mass bless or mass cure is much more usefull for me. View air was usefull for me when i played the original templates of 3do, where u didnīt know what the template will look like. But nowadays, u know how the mostly played templates (jebus, BB, Extreme, Extreme II, balance....) look in general. In faster maps like jebus, itīs not interesting for me to see where my opponents heroes or towns are. You try to break in the middle week 3 day 1 in most of the times...no matter what your opponent is doing. Send a scout in front to see if u will meet him soon. View earth will help ya to see where the towns are located, so u donīt need view air for that. You also can see the terrain with view earth, so you can locate your opponents starting town as well..
But i know how many times expert cure saved me in final battle. If opponent starts to blind your units every turn. When u play against fortress, the town with the most creature special abilities, u could suffer weakness, poison, petrifying after round 2. All gone with mass cure. Imagine you casted expert slow and expert haste in a row. On my turn, i cast expert dispel. Your both mass spells are gone with only one spell casted from me.
And expert bless has MORE value than expert offense with some towns. Fortress for example, where the units have big damage ratios.
Expert offense = +30% damage
Expert bless on Hydra (25-45 damage) = could be up to +90% damage. Very often underestimated..
I needed a bit of experience to get used to expert water, but i donīt wanna miss it now.
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Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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gnohmon
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 19, 2005 05:36 PM |
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I needed a bit of experience to get used to expert water, but i donīt wanna miss it now.
Very educational! I had used mass cure a time or two but underestimated it.
Thank you.
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 19, 2005 07:26 PM |
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Sir Steven, tactics can be more usefull than armorer in many games so maybe it should be 5th, but i still find air better than tactics. If u enter a mainfight with only earth magic u can very quickly find urself in deap trouble
First of all, its Stiven. Not Steven, stephen or stiv.
And you are correct, but that tactics can give you much better position in the mainfight as you can clear the map faster and expand faster... and clear treasure zone(s) faster.
Mass haste in map clearing maps are alot less valuable (for the tactics reasons you pointed out or atleast hinted too).
As for spankelitos discussion its n00b talk.
Whats the point in lets say dispelling a stronghold army when it has already attacked you mass hasted and you are as good as dead? Whats the use in mass blessing your half dead army?
Clone is a great spell, as is teleport.
Though what battle is about is gaining an advantage, whereas you mass haste your mass slowed units. You mass slow your opponents mass hasted units.
You dont just remove his advantage, then he will just gain it over again next round and you are getting your little spankelito spanked again
Air brings advantages and a superior move in first battle round in the mass attack. Because once hasted mostly all your units attack before your opponent gets another move due to the big speed bonus.
Water brings its best attack options in teleporting a powerful unit or cloning an existing one. But removing a opponents advantage only with dispel/cure does never give you an edge. Therefor its n00b crap and it sucks.
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 19, 2005 07:34 PM |
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oh and btw, your bless vs offense reasoning is n00bish aswell.
The 30% offense bonus is always there.
For the mass bless spell you need spell points and you waste your spell of the round.
Thats a big thing to remember.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 19, 2005 08:19 PM |
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(deleted post)
I have decided to delete my post.
Itīs just not worth to disucss strategical things with people who play 2 games a season..
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Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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lkru33
Promising
Famous Hero
3x NFL Pick'em Champ
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posted May 19, 2005 08:58 PM |
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Wow... I think I will just state my 8 skills and get out. I am a noob, so save your noob comments, I already know
1. Logistics
2. Tactics
3. Earth
4. Offense
5. Armor
6. Wisdom
7. Resistance
8. Another Magic... (Air, Water, Fire)
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted May 19, 2005 09:46 PM |
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(deleted post)
I have decided to delete my post.
Itīs just not worth to disucss strategical things with people who play 2 games a season..
thats because you got no strategy to discuss, youre a n00b
just the fact that you build your argument up on my activity rather than skills kinda proves that you got nothing.. now go spank your spankelito instead
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patriot_pulsar
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 19, 2005 11:29 PM |
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angel i dont think u have to delete ur post i started to use water because of u i prefer ur tactic And dont read what some kind of ****** steven,stiv, or cant remember his name thinks
plz put it back because all noobs have faith in u u like a noob hero who came from hc and goot more wins then any vet on zone
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Once i believe i can make impossible happen and i will beat angelito
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