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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: The secret base project
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radar
radar


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Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted November 23, 2007 02:36 PM
Edited by radar at 16:35, 28 Dec 2007.

The secret base project

Huh-uh... Knowing what has happened to FtCTP, I don't wanna promise to much.

If you read Funny or interesting... in Temple of Ashan maybe you now know what is that about. I've posted there some pics of military peasants

Thanks to Alci, Elvin and Sfidanza!
Credits: Radar (programming), 2ndHero (graphic stuff)

Main idea

The idea is to make Haven technicaly-high base based on RA2 universe. To give you a bit taste of it I'll bring RA2 sounds and music to H5, as well as units.
Why Haven? The town is the best apperance-wise. Ok, I've mentioned we can change buildings, but still for example Sylvan, is entire build around... tree.

Other specialities would be better for this race, like Avenger, but Haven has no special building which allows to use it. I've considered Gating too - calling reinforcmets on battlefield would be kickass, but - creature needs to be demonic...
...oh, and btw. Other frations remain untouched!

New issues:

Heroes of the Secret Base won't be able to pick any of magic skills. They are not so skilled in this, so will use up to 2 level spells only.
Thier Magic Guild will be called "Battle Lab" and will contain up to lvl 2 spells, too.
Their advantage will be ability to summon powerfull Commander on the battlefield, just like Arantir do, with this exception all heroes from the race will do that, and they will keep their specialities.
Some buildings' models will be changed... we don't wanna tanks to be recruited in Angel's statue, do we?
New spells like... Airstrike will take their place.
Knight skillwhell will be changed, thus it won't be knight anymore.

For first beta (testing gameplay):

PROGRAMMED:

units' basic apperance baseed on existing models
abilities & spells
basic town apperence changes
new music
add new textures in game without replacing others
early icons
creatures' names files

TO MAKE:

heroes
stats
new sounds

Work in progress

Units

Abilities in blue font show difference between base creature and upgrade.

Tier 1

Low growth rate (same as lvl 2nd), high quality.

3
3
2 - 3
5
10
7
-

?
7 + 7
Base Creature: /Conscript/ Living Creature. Enraged. Bravery.  
                                                                             
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3
3
2 - 4
5
10
11
-

?
7 + 7
upg1 /GI/ Living Creature. Enraged. Battle Rage. Bravery.  

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3
5
2 - 3
5
10
11
-

?
7 + 7
upg2 /Initiate/ Living Creature. No Enemy Retaliation. Aura of Magic Resistance.


GI.
Conscript.

Tier 2

I'll use Gremlins textures, fits the best.

Base Creature: /Rocket Squad/ Shooter. Living creature. Anti-Giant.

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upg1 /Anti-tank Team/ Shooter. Living creature. Anti-Giant. Force Arrow (left to rename => Force Shot)
upg2 /Flak Team/ Shooter. Living creature. Death Cloud.


Beta rocket launcher in action.
Rocket Squad and upgrades.

Tier 3

3
4
2 - 3
4
8
17
-

?
10
Base Creature: /Engineer/ Living Creture. Repair. Immune to Air.

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3
5
2 - 4
4
9
17
-

?
10
upg1 /Technican/ Living Creature. Caster 15 (Lightning Bolt ,  Arcane Crystal ) Immune to Air. Repair.

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4
4
2 - 4
4
9
21
-

?
10
upg2 /Medic/ Living Creature. Caster 16 (Cleansing , Regeneration , Slow ). Cripping Wound.


New icon for Repair ability.
Engineer.
Medic.
Technican.

Tier 4

Base Creature: /Attack Dog/ Living Creature. Immune to Mind Control. Assault. Swift Attack.

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upg1 /?/ Living Creature. Immune to Mind Control. Double Attack. Swift Attack.
upg2 /?/ Living Creature. Immune to Mind Control. Assault. Strike and return. Swift Attack.


Attack Dog and upgrades.

Tier 5

15
15
4 - 7
6
10
60
-

?
3
Base Creature: /Shock Trooper/ Living Creature. Stormstrike.

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17
15
5 - 9
6
10
80
-

?
3
upg1 /Tesla Trooper/ Living creature. Bash. Stormstrike.

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15
19
4 - 7
6
10
80
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?
3
upg2 /Storm Trooper/ Living creature. Stromcaller. Stromstrike.


Shock Trooper.

Tier 6

Base creature: /Chrono Leggionaire/ Living Creature. Flyer (Teleport). Aura of Bravery.

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upg1 /Chrono Commando/ Living Creature. Flyer (Teleport). Aura of Bravery. Torpor.
upg2 /PSI Commando/ Living Creaure. Immune to Mind Control. Caster 17 (Sorrow ,  Confusion ). Seduce.


Chrono Leggionaire
Chrono Commando.
PSI Commando.

Tier 7

Base creature: /Rhino Heavy Tank/ Mechanical. Large Creature. Shooter. Armoured.

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upg1 /Flame Tank/ Mechanical. Large Creature. Armoured. Fire-proof 50%. Fire breath
upg2 /Prismal Tank/ Mechanical. Large Creature. Shooter. Armoured. No Range Penalty.



Of course im open for help & sugestions

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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted November 23, 2007 03:14 PM

sounds good i hope this will work

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Moonlith
Moonlith


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
posted November 23, 2007 04:58 PM

Tier 7, try something like Alexander from Final Fantasy

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kraken
kraken


Famous Hero
I just love being elemental
posted November 23, 2007 05:13 PM

Hmm... sounds intriging
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Cepheus
Cepheus


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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted November 23, 2007 05:15 PM

Very intriguing, I'd like to help, as long as this doesn't go down the drain like the Conflux mod.  Thank the fates you're not using the U.F.O.  That one's reserved for ToK

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radar
radar


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Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted November 23, 2007 06:20 PM
Edited by radar at 18:29, 23 Nov 2007.

Cepheus, who said I'm not


Isn't it awesome?




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guarder
guarder


Supreme Hero
posted November 23, 2007 06:23 PM

nope, its better

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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted November 23, 2007 07:50 PM
Edited by WarLore at 19:51, 23 Nov 2007.

omfg that is really awesome.add thunderbird in this as new neutral
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Daystar
Daystar


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Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted November 24, 2007 04:03 AM

Do you want an all new background?  I could probobally make one for you.

It looks awesome as is, though.
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GenieLord
GenieLord


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Legendary Hero
posted November 24, 2007 06:01 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 18:02, 24 Nov 2007.

I think you should cooperate with GrandMoffDima, the creator of this project. He has created those black oriented creatures you might be looking for.
And that dark Haven town looks just incredible!

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted November 24, 2007 06:25 PM

Quote:
Tier 6

No 'OMGWTFBBQ', 'jgbdkjfg Overpowa!!@W2;,ewl!' please, PSI commando won't be able to use PM is first turn, they will be forced to suck mana first. I see no imbalance here since Inferno got Seducers...

Caster (Puppet Master, Confusion)


I'm sorry, but giving any creature the Puppet Master spell will be imbalanced. Why? Because the current applies for seducers:

- They can only Seduce stacks up to 4x their own size.
- While using the Seduce ability, the Seducer stack will not be able to act on its own.

These are two quite crucial restrictions to make the Seducer not imba. Puppet Master stacks will not have the same restrictions, so basically a stack of 2 level 6 units will be able to control any stack for more than 1 round.


... I just had to say this.
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radar
radar


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Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted November 24, 2007 06:32 PM
Edited by radar at 18:40, 24 Nov 2007.

PM without any mastery and low initiative pleases you?

Quote:
He has created those black oriented creatures you might be looking for.


Yep I seen that. I'm not looking for those exactly, as you can see which textures I've listed. He just remade regular Haven line-up. Besides, I can't see there any other work like turning picture to negativ/greyscale/decreasing brightness/contrast, atleast its my first impression.
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WarLore
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Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted November 27, 2007 04:38 PM

hey hows is going? plz say you thinking add thunder bird as neutral,that was so awesome

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radar
radar


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Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted November 27, 2007 05:21 PM

It is going fine but I won't add the thunderbird.
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WarLore
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Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted November 28, 2007 06:27 PM


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radar
radar


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Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted December 01, 2007 11:54 AM

ekhem... is ANYONE interested in help? stats? recolouring? abilities?
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted December 01, 2007 11:56 AM

I'd love to help but sadly I'm too busy with other mods.  Sorry

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Mytical
Mytical


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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted December 01, 2007 12:09 PM
Edited by sfidanza at 14:03, 01 Dec 2007.

Quite a few are busy with ....
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24110

There is also a side project in the works..

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24289

Might want to see what the people in the first thread think (might get a bit more help).  Sounds like one heck of a project, however.  One day I hope to see it finished so I can try it out.
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WarLore
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Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted December 01, 2007 12:50 PM

i am just noob for moding so cant help i would help u if i would be better for modding
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mamgaeater


Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted December 01, 2007 04:35 PM
Edited by mamgaeater at 16:36, 01 Dec 2007.

try scrap metal alts. and do you mean Robot Arena 2?
i'll be a tester if you want

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