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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: A moral dillema
Thread: A moral dillema
frostwolf
frostwolf


Famous Hero
livin' in a bottle of vodka
posted December 15, 2007 04:03 PM

A moral dillema

What is the right thing to do?

A relationship where one person loves the other, but the other has fallen out of love with their partner. No hard feelings, no arguments, just a relationship that a person wants and the other doesn't. Now, considering that no amount of 'talking about it' gave any results, what should the person who wants out do when asked if there is any chance for them?

Here's the sad part: if the answer is 'no', the person who loves and still wants the relationship will kill her/himself (numerous failed attempts confirm this).

So, should the answer be 'yes', considering that it isn't actually possible, but the only choice in order to prevent the other person from commiting suicide, or 'no', which is true and what the other person wants?
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watcher83
watcher83


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Child of Malassa
posted December 15, 2007 04:35 PM

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What is the right thing to do?

Here's the sad part: if the answer is 'no', the person who loves and still wants the relationship will kill her/himself (numerous failed attempts confirm this).




I can't give you any advice on your problem but I'll tell you this.
Real suiciders don't fail, those who do, just crave for attention in a sad and unfortunate way.
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roy-algriffin
roy-algriffin


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posted December 15, 2007 05:28 PM

if you believe they were real attempts at suicide then id suggest yes. Put up with it and people grow out of it. Unless hes really terrible to the other person or something i personally think that the person might get a little less dramatic.
If theyre faked suicide attempts (In your opinion) or that you believe the person will hang on to the other indefinatly, Then theres little you can do but say no.
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emilsn
emilsn


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posted December 15, 2007 06:57 PM

I think ill agree with Watcher.
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted December 15, 2007 07:01 PM

A friend had been blackmailed into returning or there would be a suicide. I don't see how you can just say yes, just find a way to disarm the other from his stupid notions or make him feel sorry for the hard position he has put you through. Maybe say that you will do the same and he will rot in hell for this Seriously though it depends on how sensitive you know the other is and how likely he is to lie.
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Azagal
Azagal


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posted December 15, 2007 07:30 PM

First of all the solving of this problem depends entirely on what kind of person you are... so my advice may not suite you.
First of all you should talk... eventhough "Reason" may not work probably on the person who's threatening to kill him/herself you should atleast try. If this fails go for Elvins attempt... try to make him/here see your side and how his/her actions are NOT (and never will be btw) a way to solve a problem. This might also not work depending on the grade of "desprateness". If you still fail try to "part" little by little (I trust you find a way because without knowing the person you want to part from I can't really give you any advice on that one) that way the person may get used to not having you arround all the time and you'll end up still being friends and alive... Hmmm now you're pretty much out of options to solve this in a way both get happy I guess... Nevertheless a relationship is nothing that can/should exist by through force.Love is not just a game... So in case it comes to it leave him/her you should not feel responsabil for whatever actions he/she will take as Watcher allready has pointed out perfectly.
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I can't give you any advice on your problem but I'll tell you this.
Real suiciders don't fail, those who do, just crave for attention in a sad and unfortunate way.

Hope you'll find a way out of this (in case this actually is about you)

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kookastar
kookastar


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posted December 16, 2007 12:42 AM

If this person is suicidal, failed or no, they need help.  If nothing else, it is more a cry for "help me find a way out of this hell I am in", than just, "gee give me a bit more attention."

This person needs support and help from people outside her obsession.  There is help out there.  You shouldn't necessarily stay with someone because you worry about them, but one way to tackle it would be to spend some time supporting and encouraging them to meet other people, get a new social network AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES.

They need opportunities to see that they are worthy and valuable and their life is worth living.  That there is more than one way out of difficult times.  

The person who is still "in love" is obviously aware of the way the other feels and is still hanging on... they need to find joy elsewhere.  it is hard to let go of love.  men suck

anyway

You shouldn't lie about the way you feel in a relationship, but if you care about the person, you can help them to be happy before you totally crush their heart into a mushed up mess...  

Or you can just leave, and hope they will be ok.  We usually are in time
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alcibiades
alcibiades


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posted December 16, 2007 01:08 AM

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Here's the sad part: if the answer is 'no', the person who loves and still wants the relationship will kill her/himself (numerous failed attempts confirm this).


People don't just kill themselves because they are dumped. It may sounds cruel, but that's how it is. Some people do, but the majority don't. They are hurt, they are sad, they are down, but they go through it eventually. Most of us have probably been there, and yet we still sit here today.

You can't just base your actions on what might happen. That's what I say to this.
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frostwolf
frostwolf


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livin' in a bottle of vodka
posted December 16, 2007 01:25 AM

Thanx for the replies guys. Happily, things have started to change. I'll hope for the best.

But thanks for the answers.
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