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DIEGIS
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posted January 10, 2008 07:17 AM |
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Should the Stuff be banned?
Almost all the time I played "against the stuff" I lost the game.
Don't mention that some players are more lucky then me and found the stuff each time. No matter how balanced our heroes are, no matter how carrefully we play or fight, when you have the stuff + ring of celerity = lost game.
I want to hear your oppinion on that...
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fiur
Promising
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posted January 10, 2008 07:34 AM |
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Almost all the time I played "against the stuff" I lost the game.
Don't mention that some players are more lucky then me and found the stuff each time. No matter how balanced our heroes are, no matter how carrefully we play or fight, when you have the stuff + ring of celerity = lost game.
I want to hear your oppinion on that...
well some dayes ago I had 
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but I did'nt use the ring of celerity
I used this one.... :
cause I was up against one heavy summ..... master 
but if you are lucky and get:
well who can beat you then.... 
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DIEGIS
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posted January 10, 2008 08:15 AM |
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so...
The fairest thing I dare to say, is to bann the stuff...
I dont say it should be a rule or smth like this, but we have to consider it as an option...
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the_teacher
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posted January 10, 2008 09:04 AM |
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i guess youre talking about staff of netherworld...
if so..
generally, any rule u add to the game it cripples it.
that staff is good indeed, but i encountered alot of situations when other main hand weapon was more valuable.
example : staff of sar-issus in a hand of an warlock or even wizard vs. dwarves lets say.
or horned bow (maybe + quiver) for a ranger (to use the bonus) or wizard (he can use artifacts for initiative)
or ,maybe, a sixth part of dragons set (the sword) to take advantage of the another +3 to all stats, which is not neglectable at all.
that are alot of examples when that staff should be replaced for a more benefit of other items, depending on the fight/opponent particularity.
Since the implementation of set artifacts, which spices up the game, i consider excluding an important item, part of the very interesting set is even more unwanted, from my point of view.
i prefer the game wild, uncensored, if u ask me. i consider all heroes pretty balanced aswell. game is good.
have a nice day
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted January 10, 2008 10:08 AM |
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legalaize da stuf yo
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted January 10, 2008 12:18 PM |
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Well, if you actually manage to find or buy that stuff, you've earned it.
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diegis
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posted January 10, 2008 12:30 PM |
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Dont bet on this Adarius....the STUFF ITSELF IS NO PROBLEM AS i SAID, BUT COMBINED WITH OTHER RING FOR INIT WAS deadly for me most of time...no matter how superior my hero was....
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the_teacher
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posted January 10, 2008 02:21 PM |
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Dont bet on this Adarius....the STUFF ITSELF IS NO PROBLEM AS i SAID, BUT COMBINED WITH OTHER RING FOR INIT WAS deadly for me most of time...no matter how superior my hero was....
hmmm, ..superiority....was just an illusion. dont get drunk with plain water, even with lemon
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Adrius
Honorable
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Stand and fight!
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posted January 10, 2008 02:50 PM |
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I got my name violated...
Anyway, I didn't say it wasn't a strong combination, once you have those artifacts you're pretty much unstoppable. Then again, your opponent doesn't get those artifacts every match does he?
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diegis
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posted January 10, 2008 03:08 PM |
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he got them (arties) twice in two game...isnt that enough?
...And Theacher hello 2u2...
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the_teacher
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posted January 10, 2008 03:17 PM |
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...And Theacher hello 2u2...
te astept,... cand esti pregatit
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samiekl
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posted January 10, 2008 03:28 PM |
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Ai pus-o domnu' diegis. Si teacher si frate-tu sunt chititi pe tine. 
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diegis
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posted January 10, 2008 03:30 PM |
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Quote:
Quote:
...And Theacher hello 2u2...
te astept,... cand esti pregatit
cand doresti maestre ...de obicei pe la 11 pm 12 o ora 2...
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karim26
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posted January 10, 2008 04:00 PM |
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hmmm
dont ban anything.
I think that if you want a perfect, NO LUCK game, then go play chess.
THis is a GAME, with LUCK.
a game......like gambling.
Its like poker, many people claim that poker is moistly strategy, I completly disagree.
Dont ban anything. I had game with Fiur on a map.....the fight lasted 1 round!!! He destroyed me with the UNicorn Bow and Quiver COmbo.
What can be done though is to put less relics on map, less artifacts. Then the odds of getting the relics are minimal.
OR, put like 100 level 7s to guard a relic, make the player risk losing many troops for a relic.
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted January 10, 2008 04:08 PM |
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dont ban anything.
I think that if you want a perfect, NO LUCK game, then go play chess.
THis is a GAME, with LUCK.
I really agree. the callection arties helps a lot on balance, and on this very issue. Of course if you find all init arties you are a tough nut, but hey, what about the sar issus set? A collection artie with ring of speed and staff of nether, that had a negative bonus (-10%), that would be cool though
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fiur
Promising
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posted January 10, 2008 06:20 PM |
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dont ban anything.
Dont ban anything. I had game with Fiur on a map.....the fight lasted 1 round!!! He destroyed me with the UNicorn Bow and Quiver COmbo.
yes battles like that is'nt fun Karim.... 
But I fully agree don't ban anything!!!
sometimes you are lucky and somethimes not.... pure simple...
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Elit
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posted January 10, 2008 06:37 PM |
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Edited by Elit at 19:49, 10 Jan 2008.
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Almost all the time I played "against the stuff" I lost the game.
Don't mention that some players are more lucky then me and found the stuff each time. No matter how balanced our heroes are, no matter how carrefully we play or fight, when you have the stuff + ring of celerity = lost game.
I want to hear your oppinion on that...
I'm never like ban arts before but now when many arts are part from set its alot more wrong to ban any arts.
Stuff and Ring decrese/give good ini but they dont give any points Att/Def/Spel/Knolege. I have game with Jorko on HourglasTOTe where he playing Sylvan and have Stuff+ring...and he loss game horible
So Stuff+Ring not give you 100% win or loss.
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Adrius
Honorable
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Stand and fight!
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posted January 10, 2008 06:43 PM |
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If these artifacts should be banned, shouldn't slow and/or haste also be banned? I agree with you guys on the chess thing, this is a game where some people simply have luck finding the right things.
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diegis
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posted January 10, 2008 07:18 PM |
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I am finaly convinced now...the game is much more interesting and funny.
Its hard to have 2 games in a row with all init arties and fiur is right. I hope all players feel the same...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted January 10, 2008 07:22 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 19:24, 10 Jan 2008.
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Actually I don't, when I play several hours I do not want to see me or my opponent win the battle in one turn. Yes chance is good but this is still outrageous and not fun for me.
Haste and slow are not there before the battle starts, they take some time for you to see results.
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