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posted January 25, 2008 12:35 PM |
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Islam in Europe
nullEurope one day will cry and complain why they didnt act before,the muslim population is growing,and more with the immigration.Some European cities, such as Marseille in France and Rotterdam in the Netherlands, now have Muslim populations of 25%. The city of Malmö, in Sweden has a muslim population of 35%, it is the largest population of muslims in Europe whos country does not have a muslim majority, if you just look at the percent number. In others, like Paris, Brussels, London and Copenhagen, Denmark, the figure is in excess of 10%.[6] Moscow is home to an estimated 1.5 million(10%) Muslims.Professor Philip Jenkins of Penn State University estimates that by 2100, Muslims will compose about 25% of Europe's population. But Jenkins admits this figure does not take account of the large birthrates amongst Europe's immigrant Christians.[9]
Europe's Muslim population (without Russia) has nearly tripled over the last 30 years, to about 23 million, and experts predict it will double again by 2020. In 2005, the EU-25 had an overall net gain from international migration of +1.8 million people.
Some videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbGz6iHcbTU&feature=related
this is happening in sweden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BugIu_QsvlQ&feature=related
and much more material for show but you can see by yourselves,sure there is forum members from europe and you can tell what you see happening in your nation.I think this must be stopped before is too late,in the next 10,or 30 years i dont want to live in a muslim state.
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posted January 25, 2008 01:45 PM |
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angelito
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posted January 25, 2008 02:22 PM |
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Your post is close to be classified as "racism" Gallow.
Maybe you think about that again.
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posted January 25, 2008 02:54 PM |
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I don't quite see how Muslims are any more dangerous than narrowminded Christians.
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gallow
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posted January 25, 2008 04:27 PM |
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I don't quite see how Muslims are any more dangerous than narrowminded Christians.
Just wanted to show it,maybe you live in a bubble called netherlands,and that was an indirect against me i think,but i dont care about you,maybe you like to live plenty of muslims in your country you love them.
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posted January 25, 2008 04:31 PM |
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Edited by gallow at 16:33, 25 Jan 2008.
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Your post is close to be classified as "racism" Gallow.
Maybe you think about that again.
sorry but i dont see what you call "racism" i didnt make it.Other thing seems i CANT POST anything and dont make threads,or a discussion about something,this forum is against me completely even the moderators,never in other forums i had problems like in this one probably,the only cool person here is Homer he helped me with a issue in heroes III,the rest i dont know and some better i trow them to trash,shouldnt be called "heroes community" better "Villains community".
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posted January 25, 2008 04:55 PM |
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Edited by Moonlith at 16:58, 25 Jan 2008.
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Did it ever, maybe, just MAYBE cross your mind, that the problem might lie with YOU instead of the rest of the community?
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posted January 25, 2008 05:00 PM |
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"Villians community"
i like it. we could change the volcanic wastelands to "Failed schemes."
Seriously, though, So What. Europe is the capital of Catholism, and more people are going to be catholic in europe than muslim. The reason why they are coming over here is because they view the EU as a viable place to set up shop as be included in trade.
and anyway, whats wrong with having muslims in europe. maybe then people could stop scaremongering about how terrible they are. Frankly, i feel that they are just guys with a different oppinion to the world. sure, they have extremists, but so do we all!
Gallows, i am disgusted in what you are doing! you are just passing on someone-else's hatred, have you no pride! Hatred is a thing that will only destroy our society, and so by you saying this will only do the same damage as your so called "Muslim threat!". Before you Start believing everything a gibbering conspiracy theorist has posted on the web, stop, think "Is this guy really worth listening to?" and then decide, preferably walk away.
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gallow
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posted January 25, 2008 05:03 PM |
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NO.The problem is not with me,you are wrong,the problem is with some members here,if i dont remember wrong you were one of the first in attacked me a lot in the thread "I gave up in believing in god" so keep your words and shut your mouth,(sorry for the off topic)
About the immigration and ilegals its the main point of this thread,maybe some swedish or german can tell here if noticed a difference in the last years in his/her country about this.
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posted January 25, 2008 05:44 PM |
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maybe an unwise choice of videos then. as far as i could see it, it was about stopping muslims and muslim countries from entering the EU.
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posted January 25, 2008 05:59 PM |
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Edited by angelito at 18:00, 25 Jan 2008.
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I am german, and we have a lot of muslims here. So what? We have a lot of catholic and protestant people too. So what? A muslim person isn't a bad person, or do you think like that Gallow?
Only because some brainless muslims keep bombing and terrorising innocent people in parts of the world doesn't mean all muslims are bad.
Most of the nazis have bald heads. Is everyone with a bald head a nazi then?
So u better stop your general attack towards a religious group, or you have to face a penalty.
Maybe u explain what u expect from "too many" muslims in home country instead of attacking them in general....
Explain what u fear about...
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posted January 25, 2008 06:13 PM |
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Oh yes Gallow. Tell me more. Please, let's deflate this idea that Western Europe is the seat of high culture and tolerance of modern socieity. Tell us how you really feel when your homegenized cultures are being threatened by the invasion of those swarthy-skinned saracens.
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posted January 25, 2008 06:28 PM |
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see? thats the problem to say so what? they came into your country,steal jobs who can be from germans or whatever,and worst is this:
I got some comments, among others from Norwegian blogger Bjørn Stærk, to my posts about the Norwegian government covering up the number of rapes committed by immigrants. The Swedish government is probably even worse, but Sweden is in many ways collapsing. Although he agreed that the statistics should be published, he questioned whether these rapes have anything to do with Islam. It is true that mass rapes of "the enemy's women", in part to humiliate the enemy's men, is not unique to Islam. It has been done at times of war by the Vikings, the Mongols, the Germans and the Russians during WW2, and all the way up to the Balkans in the 1990s. That's also my point. The number of rapes committed by Muslim immigrants in Western nations are so extremely high that it is difficult to view them only as random acts of individuals. It resembles warfare. This happens in most Western European countries, as well as in other infidels countries such as India. In Bradford, England, Channel 4 pulled a documentary about Pakistani and other Muslim men sexually abusing white English girls, some as young as 11. Writer Theodore Dalrymple thinks that "thanks to their cultural inheritance, (Muslim) abuse of women is systematic rather than unsystematic as it is with the whites and blacks." In France, grotesque reports about systematic gang rapes of French or "too Western" Muslim girls keep coming in. At the same time, European jails are getting filled up with Muslims imprisoned for robberies and all kinds of violent crimes, and Muslims bomb European civilians. You can see the mainstream media are struggling to make sense of all of this. That's because they can't, or don't want to, see the obvious: This is exactly how an invading army would behave. Rape, pillage and bomb.
I disagree that this has nothing to do with Islam. Muhammad himself had forced sex (rape) with several of his slave girls/concubines. This is perfectly allowed, both in the sunna and in the Koran. If you postulate that many of the Muslims in Europe view themselves as a conquering army and that European women are simply war booty, it all makes perfect sense and is in full accordance with Islamic law. And Muslims do follow their medieval religious laws, even today:
Robert Spencer on rape and jihad
What does rape, then, have to do with these religious conflicts? Unfortunately, everything. The Islamic legal manual ‘Umdat al-Salik, which carries the endorsement of Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, stipulates: “When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.” Why? So that they are free to become the concubines of their captors. The Qur’an permits Muslim men to have intercourse with their wives and their slave girls: “Forbidden to you are ... married women, except those whom you own as slaves” (Sura 4:23-24).
so what? nah dont worry germany will be full of muslim in the nesxt 40-50 years,no problem at all,the flag will change with a moon and a star,what a patriot say so what? what a pride,its nothing..you just think in the present,whats happening now,too bad,same as the global warming let´s say all so what,only thing is that the multicultism sucks,you kill a nation,a culture with that,you are killing hundreds or thousands of years of history,your ancestors all to the trash.
And yes gooth thats the problem,one thing is tolerance but what they are doing is absolute tolerance,and maybe now cant be bad but in some future not so far it will be.
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posted January 25, 2008 07:16 PM |
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"Thank you" for presenting the .. great facts! Now... my very very very simple question is : " What is your solution?"
Tell me! Would you like a WW3? That would please your "young and restless" soul? A few atom & hydrogen bombs would do the trick, eh?  Come on pal! Let's have a goo' old chat about mass genocide. It's fun! 
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posted January 25, 2008 07:30 PM |
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So let me get this straight, you think people who study Islam are all a possible threat simply because of their religion?
Is it really the Muslim faith you dislike or is it Middle Eastern people in general?
I've mentioned this numerous times but hell, why not again. I work for a company that believes in Equal Opportunity (something you should consider by the way) so I have the chance to work with people from all over. A lot of the people I work with are Muslim. I'm not dead yet and nothing terrible has happened to me. In fact, what I find truly remarkable is the fact that many of them have told me that their religion teaches acceptance of other people and their religions.
Is it really so bad to try and accept other people?
Oh, and try not to take the news so seriously. It's pretty much always going to report only the bad things. That's unfortunately what sells. People seem to love bad news for some reason. Media for the most part is pretty one sided.
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posted January 25, 2008 09:21 PM |
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steal jobs who can be from germans or whatever
hehe,this makes me quite leught..ever heard of equality? A german citezen can be muslim in faith..Islam=Faith not netionality.
Beisdes you must understand one thing:
This forum is about respect and equality.
we obey to the code of conduct,it metters not if some people agree or disagree with you,it metters that they respect other memmbers enought and not post ludacriss ,hate spreading,piece of poor spam.
or have you forgot what happend to Rougelord?!
He said simmiler things about Jews,Gyspsies..well why are just the muslim bad? Maybe jews are as worse? heck,are u catholic,or maybe protestend? the 'wrath of god' will consume those 'heretics' right? what makes your religon better then theyres? what justifes Your persecution,but does not justfys theres? If you think closly you'll see they're paying Eurpeans back with what happends hunderds of thusands of years ago.
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posted January 25, 2008 09:34 PM |
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His justification is that he is a Christian himself.
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posted January 25, 2008 09:51 PM |
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Edited by gallow at 21:57, 25 Jan 2008.
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steal jobs who can be from germans or whatever
hehe,this makes me quite leught..ever heard of equality? A german citezen can be muslim in faith..Islam=Faith not netionality.
Beisdes you must understand one thing:
This forum is about respect and equality
yeah...sure dont make me laugh, then what i have to say when a member attacked with ofensive words? 
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we obey to the code of conduct,it metters not if some people agree or disagree with you,it metters that they respect other memmbers enought and not post ludacriss ,hate spreading,piece of poor spam.
oh glory to the code of conduct,you sure dedicated all your life to study it,its sacred,its a sin dont read it,again i insist,about respect you are one of those members wich are unrespectfull,so be it
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or have you forgot what happend to Rougelord?!
He said simmiler things about Jews,Gyspsies..well why are just the muslim bad? Maybe jews are as worse? heck,are u catholic,or maybe protestend? the 'wrath of god' will consume those 'heretics' right? what makes your religon better then theyres? what justifes Your persecution,but does not justfys theres? If you think closly you'll see they're paying Eurpeans back with what happends hunderds of thusands of years ago.
hmmm,you think 2 religions can coexist peacefully? i dont think so,its impossible,and in my opinion multicultism takes a nation or will take it to the ruin,and about that guy i dont even care,this is not spam,take it like you want,im out of here.Those interested check: www.stormfront.org maybe you´ll see interesting stuff and conversations,as you wish,not recommended for all though.
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posted January 25, 2008 11:18 PM |
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Edited by Frick at 23:20, 25 Jan 2008.
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j0, I'm from Sweden. 
I read only the first posts (all they way down to theGootchs or whatever his name is, but I stopped there because he's cool), so meh. I live FAAARRR from Malmö, wich has problems with not only muslims, but immigrants overall. The problems mostly is about them are unemployed, I think. Also, they bring some conflicts over here, and as they actually express their emotions and feeling (wich Swedish people don't), they sometimes have feuds. The interesting thing is exactly the same things happen to those pure Swedish folks as well. My school, wich didn't have a single immigrant, had huge feuds based on ethnical belonging ("you were born 10 miles from here, so f**k off!").
And seriously, the things you (gallow) say is pretty much exactly the same as The Swedish Democrats (wich is a VERY rascist political party in Sweden). They don't want any foreigners in Sweden because "they all rape our women". I don't really understand your point.. They don't steal our jobs because they don't have jobs (also, the total unemployment is sinking) and I have never ever heard anything about them raping and abusing more than swedish folk (except from the rascist/nazi-parties). So... Well. I don't really know what to say, because you don't know what you're talking about.
Also, that page you linked to is funny: You really think a site with the logo "White pride Wordlwide" would see clear on the problem (because there are problems)?
EDIT: I don't know if any of the above made any sense, it was a long time ago I wrote such a long post/whatever in english. 
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posted January 25, 2008 11:30 PM |
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He didnt say muslims are bad is the fact everyone seems to be missing here. He just linked some facts and said europe may regret it later. I would agree because "some" Brainless jews/and or christians might attack the muslims and vica versa.
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