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Binabik
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Legendary Hero
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posted February 07, 2008 09:57 AM |
bonus applied by angelito on 08 Feb 2008. |
Edited by Binabik at 02:32, 19 May 2008.
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3D Templates
It's been more than ten years since I've used AutoCad, and even longer since I've done solid modeling. So I decided I needed some practice.
I originally was just curious if the Cube template was really a cube, but did some other templates as well. Maybe I'll do more in the future and also add some more info to these.
The spheres are the zones and the rods are the connections. Zones of the same color have the same treasures, but may not have the same mines. Connections of the same color have the same guard strength. There is no relationship between the zone color and connection color.
(Note: Zones and connections of the same color only apply to a single template. Colors in one template may not be the same as colors in another template.)
The cone connections are "wide" zones which means the two zones are essentially one big open zone, but with different attributes for each section. The connection between the zones is usually unguarded.
The size of the spheres is the relative size in the template. But we all know it can vary a LOT. So the comparative size is only a very rough idea of the actual size of one zone compared to another.
8MM6
8XM12
Angelito's Fiesta 1v1
Angelito's Fiesta 2v2
Around The Marsh
BALANCE Medium Size
BALANCE XL Size
Blockbuster Medium
Blockbuster Large and XL
CUBE
EXTREME
EXTREME 2
Frozen Dragons
Gimlis Revenge
Is this really supposed to be this way?
Jebus Cross
Marathon
Ocean's Eleven
PANIC
Reckless
Roadrunner
Skirmish
Triad
Vortex
Let me know if you find any mistakes. I'm sure there are some.
Edit by angelito
+QP applied.
Very nice job here Binabik. Makes the idea of the templates much more visual. Adding the mines is a good idea aswell. If you have some more templates, keep them coming.
Edit May 10 08
Added 8XM12
Put templates in alphabetical order.
May 17
Added 8MM6, Reckless, Triad
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Binabik
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Legendary Hero
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posted February 07, 2008 10:01 AM |
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Edited by Binabik at 02:37, 19 May 2008.
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I added the mines.
8MM6
The mines don't look right on this template, especially the extra mercury for zone 1. And notice how zones 15 and 19 both have mercury and sulfur. It seems like one should have gems and crystal.
8XM12
Angelito's Fiesta 1v1
Angelito's Fiesta 2v2
Around The Marsh
BALANCE Medium
BALANCE XL
Blockbuster Medium
Blockbuster Large and XL
CUBE
EXTREME
EXTREME 2
Frozen Dragons
Gimlis Revenge
Jebus Cross
Marathon
There are less gem mines than other mines. Is this a mistake in the template?
Ocean's Eleven
PANIC
Reckless
Roadrunner
Skirmish
Triad
Vortex
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted February 07, 2008 10:22 AM |
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Edited by liophy at 10:23, 07 Feb 2008.
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I dont know whats the point to have the scheme in 3D, since the game is in 2D.
For me its more clear the 2D draw like this:
2sm4d(3)
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bigbadfly
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 07:06 AM |
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Wait a minute!
I don't get it, what's the big idea of these ''cubes''?
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Binabik
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Legendary Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 07:14 AM |
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"Cube" is just the name of a template.
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bigbadfly
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 11:27 AM |
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Maybe I'm just an idiot, but what is a template?
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted February 08, 2008 12:39 PM |
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Binabik
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Legendary Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 09:38 PM |
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Quote:
If you have some more templates, keep them coming.
Do you have any requests? I have plans for doing all the TOH templates plus a few from the other tourney sites. Maybe some CD templates also like 8MM6.
I also plan on adding more infomation to the ones I've already done. I want to add zone guard info and zone richness/treasure info. I just have to figure out the best way to do it without making things look clutered.
@BigBadFly
First, are you aware that this is all H3 stuff? The templates are files used to make random maps. When the random map generator creates a map, it looks at the template to determine things like the number of zones, how they are connected, how rich they are, the number and type of buildings in the zone, etc.
At the bottom of this page you can find links to some more threads about templates.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 09, 2008 01:04 PM |
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Any new 3d templates coming?
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Binabik
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Legendary Hero
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posted May 10, 2008 08:33 AM |
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I was just thinking that I should do some more. I'll have to look, but I think I already have a few that didn't get posted the first time.
I also never figured out a way to add a lot more info without it getting cluttered and hard to read. I want to add town info, treasure values and guard strength.
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sachelos
Known Hero
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posted May 17, 2008 11:21 AM |
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hi
Very nice job, congrats bud! Gives you a more visual idea of the connexion between players and how the map look like! I will deffinetly print them tomorrow to have them close when playing a specific template 
Thx a lot for your work! Few still do it those days...
regards,
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Binabik
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Legendary Hero
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posted May 18, 2008 07:36 AM |
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Thanks sachelos
If you want to print maps for use in a game you might consider using the maps at those Russian sites like the one liophy linked to. For a quick reference they are probably easier to use and won't take nearly as much ink to print. You can type over the address in his link to get the other templates. I think most of the CD templates are there.
I plan on adding more info to mine and they should be better if you want to study them in more detail, or use them to get ideas for new templates. Mostly I did them because I think they look cool.
I've been working on True Random and Dwarven Tunnels, but I've been having some problems with them. Does anyone get a high percentage of bad maps with True Random?
Does anyone have any requests for templates?
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maretti
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Supreme Hero
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posted June 20, 2008 07:29 PM |
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Edited by maretti at 19:34, 20 Jun 2008.
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Looking forward to see true random.
(I get a very low percentage of bad maps on true random.)
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted April 01, 2009 06:47 PM |
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i've started translations of template descriptions from Russian, later i will post same pages for other templates
Here is BALANCE L+underground
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VrabelMix
Hired Hero
Got town portal?
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posted April 02, 2009 12:31 AM |
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I don't know what any of this means lol, but.............. I am quite profficient with CAD 3D Modeling You guys need help with anything (I'm best with AutoCAD but I do have and know 3D studio max)
Let me know if you need any help
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Rainalcar
Promising
Famous Hero
Heroji su zakon
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posted April 03, 2009 03:56 PM |
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I had most major templates analyzed some time ago, however I can't find most of them any more. I did find True Random and BB, but text is mostly in croatian:
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