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Elit
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posted February 08, 2008 07:24 PM |
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Some toughts about the new clans
1. The new rogue clan is absolutely useless. Most of the people would never agree to start playing a map proposed by a rogue which they don't like, the rogue can't force someone to play certain map, so the rogue clan has no bonus. Every other clan can play random race which is also something like a rogue. It maybe a good idea to give the rogue 4 points per win or some other bonus.
2. For the moment the Sylvan and the Necroman are the most played races in the game which means that in the new clans most of the clans will be those two and that will lead to a constant archenemy fights and the other clans will have disadvantage. It will be good to switch the archenemy of the sylvan to be the ork and the necro to hate the dwarves.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted February 08, 2008 07:42 PM |
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1. I AGREE IT SHOULD BE A BONUS FOR ROGUE
2. This session will be more people playing with barbarians. I can see this...but necro "to hate" dwarves, i'm not sure
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted February 08, 2008 07:51 PM |
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1. very true
2. you have some point, however not all think this way. also archenemies wars means win double but also lose double
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted February 08, 2008 07:56 PM |
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Edited by yasmiel at 20:05, 08 Feb 2008.
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Yes, but overall point gain is still double (+4 per game). Perhaps keep it at +4 for win, -2 for loss for arch enemies or something like that. Overall gain should not be larger than in other games.
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What about enabling rogue to select archenemy type of castle picked by opponent?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 08, 2008 08:05 PM |
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An extra point per win sounds like a good compensation, after all I doubt all players can play all factions well. That and starting heroes can be unlucky whereas the one who chooses faction will not have any complications.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 07:23 AM |
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Edited by Elit at 07:24, 09 Feb 2008.
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Just wake up and have ideas ...but its not so clear atm 
Maybe we can choice in new season "enemy" clan for 1 week and after it we can't choice same clan for minimum 2 weeks.will be better to put rule both clans members need to do minimum 1-2 games for this time vs all clan members from second clan for prevent abuse sistem. For all games when both clans are "enemy" will have extra points per win and loss 
Maybe we can have option for 1 clan to choice second for "teacher" for 1 week. For begining 1st clan need to be alot less in charts from second and wen he choice his "teacher" clan all games from both sides he will gain "max 10 ranking points per win" but both clans will gain double prestige points per game. If 1st clan improve his results after 1 week learn from his "teachers" can have shields for reward to clan teacher.
its just base ideas
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gmmari
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 03:36 PM |
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Elit i'm always agree with you but now i think you are bit out of the road.
What is the main purpose of a clan generally?
1)to show to the other that your clan(i mean the 3 player) are the best on that particular faction
or for a rougue
2)that the clan player are the best player also with some handicap like to go random on every map always(i imagine a rougue clan played in this way and not choose the faction before..)
In this way i start to think that is only the system of archenemy that is wrong so:why not cancel the entire system of archenemy and play simply what you like and against all?
Not introduce too rules and too strange or new player can not understand what is real purpose of playing.
Let the system of archenmy in this way or cancel all the system
i think this.
About the rougue clan i'm agree with you..
The old system was more funny and accurate but the boss decide for this so..let's play!
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 06:33 PM |
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Elit:
1 I completely agree - I would play 95-100% random, but I will not chose rogue faction as it is I guess. It doesnt give any added value, cause noone will let me chose map anyway.
2 I couldn`t care less, and I think that is such a minor point that it in no way should influence the Clan decisions. Who cares if someone gets a few more points? As I said, I think this is a really minor "problem" if it is at all. My guess is that a lot of players have grown tired of the factions chosen last (current) clan season.
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 06:41 PM |
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My 2 cent here:
For the Rogue clan: I would play such a clan, as I like to random everything, but I think some things are in order:
A) Maybe this type of clan should win more points for a win and lose less for a defeat.
B)Make it as, it can choose the faction from all the factions but not the hero. That would be interesting.
C) Seen as there are so many underpowered heroes in this game, did you ever consider introducing a balance mod for weaker heroes which everyone would adopt. I mean nothing magor just some skill changes so that every hero is viable and randoming one becomes no longer a liability.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted February 10, 2008 08:07 AM |
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Quote:
Elit i'm always agree with you but now i think you are bit out of the road.
What is the main purpose of a clan generally?
1)to show to the other that your clan(i mean the 3 player) are the best on that particular faction
or for a rougue
2)that the clan player are the best player also with some handicap like to go random on every map always(i imagine a rougue clan played in this way and not choose the faction before..)
In this way i start to think that is only the system of archenemy that is wrong so:why not cancel the entire system of archenemy and play simply what you like and against all?
Not introduce too rules and too strange or new player can not understand what is real purpose of playing.
Let the system of archenmy in this way or cancel all the system
i think this.
About the rougue clan i'm agree with you..
The old system was more funny and accurate but the boss decide for this so..let's play!
Maybe you are right ...i'm not sure how good is my "morning" ideas...but they are kinda new and sounds funny 
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted February 10, 2008 11:18 PM |
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Edited by vesuvius at 23:23, 10 Feb 2008.
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honestly, I'm thinking there may be no need for a clan restart. Everyone disagrees with each other, nobody will be entirely satisfied.
but in other thoughts should I be using today:
a) cialis
b) viagra
c) a power drink?
and more important thoughts for you Elit:
is it true that
a) a Ferrari Enzo can go 0-60 in 3.2 seconds?
b) the SLR McLaren is underrated at 0-60 in 3.6 seconds?
c) the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 is overrated at 0-60 in 3.6 seconds?
d) will custom wheels on the LP640 offset ratios causing potential damage to the all wheel drive transmission?
please ponder on this through the next sleep cycle and give me your thoughts. Its important, thank you.
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted February 11, 2008 04:23 PM |
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anyone remember that?
"Marjory The Trash Heap is a wise being, similar to a shaman, that is the garbage dump of the Gorgs. She and her heckling heralds live near the Gorg's garden, and she gives the Fraggles guidance and advice, which the Fraggles regard with reverence, but not worship."
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted February 11, 2008 04:38 PM |
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 Quote:
anyone remember that?
"Marjory The Trash Heap is a wise being, similar to a shaman, that is the garbage dump of the Gorgs. She and her heckling heralds live near the Gorg's garden, and she gives the Fraggles guidance and advice, which the Fraggles regard with reverence, but not worship."
Lol Insatiable yes I remember her well
I loved that program when I was younger...
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted February 12, 2008 10:37 AM |
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honestly, I'm thinking there may be no need for a clan restart. Everyone disagrees with each other, nobody will be entirely satisfied.
Perhaps, Ves, you are right...
Seems that there will be 8 emperors as the activity of seasoned players is rising. Thus, clan season and overall TOH season can be started simultaneously in forseeable future.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted February 14, 2008 12:36 PM |
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lol Vesuvius
You are N1
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