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valkyrica
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posted April 21, 2008 10:10 PM |
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Map is perfect for his szie 
Here no need "well" and its not problem for dungeon only. If you want mana, loss 1 turn in town for fill it 
About rune of charge you are very wrong 
This race have alot units with 4-5 movment. Most units on other races have 5-7. Now add 2 arts from necro set= -1 movment or Ring of Caution. This will decrese movment to 3-4 on fortres units. They have most low averge ini from all races. For this they need realy much rune of charge to can hit on 1st turn.
Do 10-15 games with Fortres and you will see how low chances they have if not rune of charge.
Ban resurrection rune instead, see how much they whine about that
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted April 21, 2008 10:16 PM |
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Map is perfect for his szie
Here no need "well" and its not problem for dungeon only. If you want mana, loss 1 turn in town for fill it
About rune of charge you are very wrong
This race have alot units with 4-5 movment. Most units on other races have 5-7. Now add 2 arts from necro set= -1 movment or Ring of Caution. This will decrese movment to 3-4 on fortres units. They have most low averge ini from all races. For this they need realy much rune of charge to can hit on 1st turn.
Do 10-15 games with Fortres and you will see how low chances they have if not rune of charge.
Ban resurrection rune instead, see how much they whine about that
More simple is to ban race 
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2008 10:18 PM |
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More simple is to ban race
Or just edit the map and give the boots of swiftness
Nobody puts a gun to your head and MAKES you wear the precious ring of power
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted April 22, 2008 01:34 PM |
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wells is ok. you just want it superfunky-rushrush dont you
Also dungeon is stronger in this map than most other Toh maps.
I'm not talking solely about dungeon but magic races in general. Remeber - heroes of MIGHT and MAGIC  For instance, now you just put arcanes (or master hunters with TOH MOD) in corner and roll on.. Anyway, object "well" is an essential part for "magic" element to work hehe I'm just suggesting here. My overall opinion of the map can be read above
elit, good idea - go and sit in ya hole... maybe, just maybe, if you spend a week there it's possible to refill wits as well  All right, pal, I'm just kidding - could not resist temptation  Love, peace, chewing gum!
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted April 23, 2008 02:09 AM |
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For instance, now you just put arcanes (or master hunters with TOH MOD) in corner and roll on..
map dont even have external lev3 dwell..not even wood mine.. not so good for sylvan.. still is fair..
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted April 23, 2008 07:11 AM |
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Very nice map, but played two times, and in both cases have problems with refuse to join of imprisoned army Maybe no need imprisoned army at all on this map ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted April 23, 2008 09:22 AM |
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Very nice map, but played two times, and in both cases have problems with refuse to join of imprisoned army Maybe no need imprisoned army at all on this map ?
1. this "error" regarding the joining army could occur because of the script steps, who executes a series of command one at the time....
Solution: first flag garrison, then attack the joiners , DONT run from outside the gate (still neutral)through it, reaching the creatures stack in one single move!.
will work 100%.
2. one more thing related to joiners, cause has been asked few times. It's not a random thing, its a scanning script for your heroes script name (which differs from their ingame name). IF u recruit a third hero first day, other than your alignment, and his script name is first in alphabetical order, you might get joiners of his alignment, not yours, and its a waste.
Advice: until u take the joiners , dont recruit a third hero from town in order to avoid the risk of losing the joining army.
enjoy
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted April 23, 2008 10:42 AM |
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And one more thing do an "house cleaning" in this folder
/"your game folder/Editor/H5MMods/
(just for those how did'nt read the pdf file....
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted April 23, 2008 04:09 PM |
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also buying a 3rd hero is 100% badmove for day1, is a big waste of dollar, you ll have 3 heroes by day2 anyway from garison 'prison'
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted April 23, 2008 05:26 PM |
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I like to make mistakes, people must have maximum options How about if i want to go directly to undergrounds, and skip garison "prison" for week or more ....
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Nothing's impossible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted April 23, 2008 08:25 PM |
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that wont help much.. i guess is map this way, have kill some upstairs first
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted April 23, 2008 10:05 PM |
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that wont help much.. i guess is map this way, have kill some upstairs first
there is an minor bug on purple side... (fraud just told me)
you can get to pyramide without taking guards....
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted May 06, 2008 08:25 PM |
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted May 06, 2008 08:46 PM |
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Infernal server error.
However I think this host should work?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 06, 2008 08:49 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 02:43, 11 Jul 2008.
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Just dled it, works fine for me.
Edit:
There is something that concerns me a bit. Atm you are forced to build mage guild 5 if you want to teleport back to town and considering that the typical time to break is week 3(assuming all goes well) by the time you gather the middle it's late week 4 already.
Now academy is slow by default so will not break as early as others, chances are that if they break they won't have mini arties which is really bad for week 4. Or you let the opponent get it all while you upgrade, build mage guilds and mini arties
Haven by week 5 can gain a massive army of paladins that is hard to kill and slow factions cannot get to them fast enough. Coupled with Vittorio's amazing creeping skills it's downright scary, he just rules.
Some things I'd like to see:
Maybe a witch hut that gives logistics to even out the difference.
A teleporter back to town so you can upgrade your army and utilize your racial. One possible spot is just before the garrison so that the opponent cannot reach you right away if he breaks too soon.
Maybe one more mage vault so that spellcasting factions don't get the short end if they are unlucky?
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted July 11, 2008 11:48 AM |
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There is something that concerns me a bit. Atm you are forced to build mage guild 5 if you want to teleport back to town and considering that the typical time to break is week 3(assuming all goes well) by the time you gather the middle it's late week 4 already. / same applies for both players
Now academy is slow by default so will not break as early as others, chances are that if they break they won't have mini arties which is really bad for week 4. Or you let the opponent get it all while you upgrade, build mage guilds and mini arties / aca is very strong here anyway, ask teacher, he kill for middle and teleport after
Haven by week 5 can gain a massive army of paladins that is hard to kill and slow factions cannot get to them fast enough. Coupled with Vittorio's amazing creeping skills it's downright scary, he just rules. / whats week5? also haven lack of footman and priest, if unlucky with diplo 34 champ or so is not a winner army
Some things I'd like to see:
Maybe a witch hut that gives logistics to even out the difference. / mebe.. i ask teach if he can make script
A teleporter back to town so you can upgrade your army and utilize your racial. One possible spot is just before the garrison so that the opponent cannot reach you right away if he breaks too soon. / could be done.. yes not sure if he break both garison and middle you want to dealay your death much.. stop playing russians elvin damit
Maybe one more mage vault so that spellcasting factions don't get the short end if they are unlucky? / could be done, no much need (or space in map).. 2 scrolls can be useful too
 Actually.. i was thinking of make a 2nd version with owned garisons, controlled by opponent. Sims may break sooner but sure is much more anti-rush stuf.
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted July 11, 2008 11:56 AM |
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Maybe a witch hut that gives logistics to even out the difference. / mebe.. i ask teach if he can make script
Actually.. i was thinking of make a 2nd version with owned garisons, controlled by opponent. Sims may break sooner but sure is much more anti-rush stuf.
Giving logistics to all races twists the whole balance thing. There is a reason why powerful faction like academy with high % skills in magic gets only 2% for logs while might factions try to compensate by moving faster with high logs value. Remeber that all skill probabilities are relative and strongly bound to each faction's phylosphy. I suggest you leave it be as intended... Besides, the map is very good as it is. 
Controlled garrisons are fun Also, judging from Fiur's maps it won't break sim turns.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 11, 2008 11:57 AM |
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We'll see how it goes then So far it's one of my favourite maps.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted July 11, 2008 09:39 PM |
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That v1.3 link takes me to the download page and then to the wrong page and crashes my firefox. Anyone else get that?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 11, 2008 09:42 PM |
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I just wait a few secs and I get download option.
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