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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 09:42 AM |
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How about allied 3v3 maps for clan games? Could last a while though?
Another question would be that if playing rogue or random you will surely have the chance of getting a bad hero so you will be severed in the first weeks of the game compared to the enemy who chooses his favorite faction with its imba starting hero.
So my point is, as many heroes are way underpowered this type of game would lead to some extent of frustration.
Does anyone else see this as a problem??
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted March 06, 2008 10:54 AM |
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its up to u to come to an agreement regarding the initial game settings like picking a hero or go for random, even if the opponent chooses a specific town. playing random its a "risk" u assume.
to be honest, im not sure if taking a rogue clan you will benefit too much from its specialty (picking map of your choice), there are not too many who will adventure on a not-so-well-known land.
personally, i think there are heroes and better heroes from the start, but none of them is completelly useless or too underpowered. using your imagination transform a slave into a prince 
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 11:09 AM |
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Edited by okrane at 11:10, 06 Mar 2008.
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This is nicely put, but when it comes to powercreeping I do believe that no matter the imagination used, some heroes are just worse. And it would be kinda sad of getting Rutger as a main and Losing in week 2 to a rushing Sinitar or Havez.
Taking a rogue clan should at least grant extra points, or extra advantages, like artifacts or gold or I don't know. Or at least let us make that mod which balances some of the heroes around.
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 11:18 AM |
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If any dungeon hero comes to you in week 2 you are dead. Rutger or not. I agree with teacher, any hero is good, just that its a mistake to play them all in the same way.
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 11:26 AM |
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Edited by okrane at 11:27, 06 Mar 2008.
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ok
But I still think rogues are disadvantaged.
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 12:36 PM |
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ok
But I still think rogues are disadvantaged.
Well.. things can never be perfect to be honest.....
Other than heroes, there's also artifacts, skills learned/offered, luck triggered % etc to decide a game .
A map where a week2 rush is possible, try to avoid or at least agree on heroes for both sides
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 04:56 PM |
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Edited by okrane at 18:09, 06 Mar 2008.
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Even on maps like Hourglass this is an issue.
Imagine I random and get Svea as a main, and my opponent has Urghat. You can surely guess the outcome of this game.
Of course chance has a good input in this game. But I do believe all heroes must have the same potential, as well as randoming should.
That's why I think the rogue faction should get an extra bonus. like some extra points for the win...
EDIT: How about something different:
a)The rogue could play with a random town, but PICK the hero.
How should this be done: Make the randomizer external. I mean, add to ToH a random number generator or something and it will decide what race the player will play. With the race already chosen the player chooses his hero.
b) The rogue plays the the town chosen by his oponent.
For extra points or smth, you play whatever race your oponent wants. You get to choose your hero and the map.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 05:18 PM |
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When all faction can play random i dont see why we need "rogue faction". Just remove it and ppl who want to play "rogue" can choice any faction and play after it all games random.
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted March 06, 2008 05:55 PM |
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anything that requires a map to be edited before is a bad idea right now. Keep it simple. And... nobody is forcing you to play rogue! there are 8 other choices lol
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 06:04 PM |
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Edited by okrane at 18:09, 06 Mar 2008.
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just because I am militating for some balance and extra flavor to some race does not mean I am gonna play rogue.
Sorry for trying to help... geez
EDIT: previous post edited. Only extra points as a bonus.
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 08:05 PM |
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gotta agree with Vesuvius on this one..
Personally I think rogues will manage to negotiate a deal like this:
"You (the opponent) comes up with X(3, 5?) number of maps, and the rogue choses one of them." Alternatively both plays random on an agreed map.
Lets start to play and care less about points
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 08:36 PM |
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted March 06, 2008 09:09 PM |
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One thing I must be missing.... you keep complaining about getting a bad random starting hero.... if you dont like the one you got to start... Use one outta the tavern... if you dont like that one.. buy another hero day 2.. so you have 3-4 heroes to choose from... surely one of them will be decent hero.
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 09:47 PM |
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One thing I must be missing....
Nothing changed I see, Jinxer's still missing things
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sphere
Supreme Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 10:31 PM |
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Hi,
- Not sure that this is the right place to comment. That aside, I think that that idea of capturing land(s) and hence getting artifact(s) seems like a cool thing and it appeals to my H5-ToE itch allthough I haven't played a recorded game for ages.
- Guz
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted March 06, 2008 11:51 PM |
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One thing I must be missing.... you keep complaining about getting a bad random starting hero.... if you dont like the one you got to start... Use one outta the tavern... if you dont like that one.. buy another hero day 2.. so you have 3-4 heroes to choose from... surely one of them will be decent hero.
ok, you win... you won't see me complaining again...
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted March 07, 2008 10:46 AM |
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One thing I must be missing.... you keep complaining about getting a bad random starting hero.... if you dont like the one you got to start... Use one outta the tavern... if you dont like that one.. buy another hero day 2.. so you have 3-4 heroes to choose from... surely one of them will be decent hero.
ok, you win... you won't see me complaining again...
jinxer ruined all the fun, hes a true family man
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted March 07, 2008 03:47 PM |
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How about allied 3v3 maps for clan games
oh man okrane! my eyes hurt why did you have to post that 
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted March 07, 2008 05:43 PM |
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How about allied 3v3 maps for clan games
oh man okrane! my eyes hurt why did you have to post that
Because all ToH games so far are pretty much single player games with a final duel.
And to annoy you all 
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attila
Known Hero
Young Warrior
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posted March 07, 2008 06:48 PM |
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well for a while i didnt care less if we started a new season or not. but now it seems the only people i see online are those that are not willing to risk there points to gain 1 pt. which i completely understand. is there anything that could be done so they get more than 1pt for playing some lower people. cause im seriously getting frustrated not playing a game in 3 days.
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