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Orodruin
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posted March 03, 2008 10:39 PM |
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Food, is there something better?
Hi everyone, it's my first topic so make it easy on me guys. A lot of different ideas are there on so many threads so i found difficult to think of one that could make a bit of difference.
Well, as it's said on the topic, this is about food, and not only the word itself. Food, i expect you to agree, is more than just something you have everyday to keep you energized and healthy, it's got to do with a lot more about yourself, your culture, daily behavior, your unique metabolism, it even regards religion!
From the first moment humans tasted something different from raw meat and began to endeavour different ways of having things, like mixing vegetables, using salt, herbs and fruits, an entire gama of dishes started to be created. And it differed from place to place, in early Egypt, for example, people had many fruits for food, while in northeast of europe, the Norse ate tones of meat and gallons of beer almost all the time, which also differs from the greco-roman typicals, like fish and fruits etcetera etcetera.
So why not share this knowledge, we know each other in so many aspects but this one is sure to uncover something new. So let's talk about it.
I'm brazilian, this country conserves much of Africa and Portugal culinary, here we have rice and beans to cover the basics, red meat is preffered upon fish or chicken. Fruits are not consumed that regularly (which should), and we like potatoes, green veggies (leaves) and pasta. I'll give you some more details later.
So it's your turn, tell us about yourself (got it)
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violent_flower
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posted March 03, 2008 10:50 PM |
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Yep, sex then food....Lots of things better then food...
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Vlaad
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posted March 04, 2008 02:15 AM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 04:15, 04 Mar 2008.
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LOL 
Welcome back, VF.  You were sorely missed.
I think it was a rhetorical question though. 
What I found interesting is that Americans don't use UHT milk. But it's OK, I've switched to soy milk anyway. However, I still miss the salty yogurt I used to drink back home. While I enjoy fruit yogurt, I prefer that sour taste. I'm sure it's there somewhere, but I haven't discovered the right shelf in Wal-Mart.
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Mamgaeater
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posted March 04, 2008 02:21 AM |
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Well here in the UDA we have a variety of foods... but our staples include...
Pizza,burgers,fries,ice cream,chicken tenders,soda,low fat foods, and artifically genetically modified class b sub foods.
We have other stuff here as well but this is our staple diet.
(the low-fat food is until we figure out the true source of obesity)
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violent_flower
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posted March 04, 2008 03:00 AM |
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Vlaad Hi to you missed you!
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Orodruin
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posted March 04, 2008 06:03 PM |
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About half a century ago, slaven people brought from Africa to Brazil used to mix beans and wastes of pork left by the nobles in order to survive the journey through sea. With the passage of time it became one of the most popular dishes in here, we call it "feijoada", which can be understood as "bean-ish" dish. My nation has been influenced by other's culinary for centuries, Italy, for example, seduced us with its pasta and wine, arabian sfihas are also in the menu, we love the average American style like hamburguers, pizza, french fries, of course, some contributed more than others.
And diversity is not only beyond the country boarders, we have lots of tastes here as well. IE. in the south part, a person descendant from Holland is likely to have a barbacue for lunch than any common dish. In "Bahia", next to Rio de Janeiro (i bet you guys know the Rio), shrimp is as common as rice and beans (the basics of every brazilian). Southeast resembles American kind the most, cause it's a section where development is higher and many companies from the whole world took place.
Deep in the interior areas we have people that love to cook on clay-made stoves, and I tell ya, it's a lot better than that made in a common one, and they also have a taste for hot sauces and strong tastes, for everything comes just fresh from the origin.
Changing the subject,
I'm the kind that likes almost everything moderately, and also enjoy trying something different, has anyone noticed how people deal with exotic food. I mean, as long as it doesn't make you sick or cause you any problem at that moment or in the future, why not try it? Unless yo have a certain disgust for a flavor or consistence in particular.
What must be, certainly, verified is whether that food is edible. Some look like they're not but might be exactly the contrary.
In China (and in other Asian areas) people have bugs for breakfast (specially scorpions and crickets), even here when it's time for the reproduction phase of a certain species of ants, some people catch the males and future queens to eat their butts with flour! (so it's not that different, I wonder what they taste like). Some byologists i know, when studying the flora of a region, can be found eating raw invertebrates with the bare hands.
Give it a try then...
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posted March 06, 2008 05:05 AM |
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I've switched to soy milk anyway.
Dude no, probably the worst thing you can drink (short of cyanide)... 
And food? I'm a fan.
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Vlaad
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posted March 06, 2008 05:20 AM |
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I've switched to soy milk anyway.
Dude no, probably the worst thing you can drink (short of cyanide)...
Flavored, of course.
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posted March 06, 2008 05:35 AM |
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I'm not talking about the flavour... soy contains just about every inhibitor known to man
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Vlaad
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posted March 06, 2008 05:38 AM |
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted March 06, 2008 05:39 AM |
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Turn to the dark side Vlaad 
*whispers*
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Vlaad
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posted March 06, 2008 06:28 AM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 06:30, 06 Mar 2008.
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LOL You sound like vegangelicals who claim meat eaters smell bad and have low energy. I know some meat eaters who smell good and have high energy. 
What inhibitors...? 
*checks wiki*
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posted March 06, 2008 06:45 AM |
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It's hard to find, but oat milk is really tasty.
and yeah, soy milk, if you're a boy it'll turn you into a girl
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Vlaad
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posted March 06, 2008 07:17 AM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 07:19, 06 Mar 2008.
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Soy consumption has been linked to cognitive impairment in male rats. Although the cited studies are based on rats fed with concentrated phytoestrogens and not common soy beans, it is already well known that concentrated estrogens cause negative effects in males. The common amounts of phytoestrogens in soy beans are not to be compared to concentrated estrogen. [...] It is doubtful that normal consumption of foods that contain these phytoestrogens would provide sufficient amounts to elicit a physiological response in humans. [...] Soybeans and processed soy foods do not contain the highest "total phytoestrogen" content of foods.
Anyhow, I'm not a rat while my cognitive functions are nothing to write home about. As for turning into a girl:
Because of the phytoestrogen content, some studies indicate that there is an inverse correlation between soybean ingestion and testosterone in men. For this reason, they may be protected against the development of prostate cancer.
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posted March 06, 2008 10:29 AM |
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I eat more meat than you probably
I dno. Just, soy is bad. mmkay.
Krispy Kreme donuts, on the other hand... lol
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Orodruin
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posted March 06, 2008 09:29 PM |
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In nature, mammals are not able to produce the 20 aminoacids necessary for life, however, the plants can do so, thoug you can not find all of them in just one, but in a group of species, ie. rice synthetizes aminoacids from 1 to 11 and beans from 12 to 20, together they can offer your cells the material needed for protein synthesis (it's not really like this, just an example).
Meat in general contains most of the aminoacids we need because the herbivore incorporated the plants' into its muscles, and naturally, the animal didn't eat only one kind.
So, in terms of energy, it doesn't really matter whether you eat veggies or meat, but surely you will need meat to guarantee that you have everything you need (or you can have a great variety of veggies, mixing their elements, like rice and beans).
Whether meat lovers stink or not, that I don't know, but bacteria are more fond of meat (celulosis is hard to be digested), and you know where those gases come from.
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posted March 07, 2008 12:02 AM |
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GO FOOD!
ESPECIALLY THE CHRISTMAS TURKEY!
YUM!
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posted March 08, 2008 01:05 AM |
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mmmm i love food.
Love pasta...... mmm.
In Sweden we eat McDonalds (lol), Pizza, Pasta, Pig meat, Meatballs!, diffrent Potatoes dishes, Kebab mmmm, chicken, trees (just kidding, we love trees), fish (Salmon for example, not tuna anymore because they are almost gone so we leave them alone), Tacos and lots of other great food!
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booboo
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posted March 09, 2008 11:04 PM |
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I can't believe nobody here said POT. Shame 
Food's good
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posted June 29, 2009 08:27 AM |
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Edited by Azagal at 08:35, 29 Jun 2009.
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If I may quote myself...
Food is indeed one of the best things in this world, but the higher the quality the higher the price. So is it justifyable to spend big ammounts of money on food and drinks? I very strongly belive so aslong as the price level isn't a joke (I realize the interpretation of "joke" may very well vary here since some of you apparantly believe that 100$ for food is inhuman).
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This burger is a really bad example since it's hillariously overpriced and my first statement is obviously very misleading. Even if you have money it makes no sense to throw it out of the window. Maybe I can try to explain to you how I think that eating very high quality food isn't throwing it out the window.
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I could easily justify spending 700$ on a meal if I had the money.
That's why I hate rich people who waste money. If they had the money, they would waste it down the toilet.
And you know I'm far from materialism, but this is getting ridiculous.
First of all I have to clarify that statement of mine. Even if I were Bill Gates I wouldn't have that Burger because the price is unreasonable. My statement there was made in the sense of "I have no problem with spending a lot of money on food". And now to continue...
I beg you pardon enjoying good quality food is not wasting money. It's not like money isn't an issue but if I have irresponsabil ammounts of it I certainly wouldn't live like a hermit. Eating good food is not something you need outrageous ammount of cash for you can cook meals twice as good as that burger for 4 people (never tasted it of course but I'm certain it's nothing extatic) wíth 50$.
It's simply about enjoying the finer things in life, it has nothing to do with the "morals" you talk about. The finer things in life (to which high quality food has always belonged to) simply cost a lot of money. So how am I wasting it if I spend it for something I really enjoy? Of course there are ridicolously overpriced things (this burger seems like one of them, and the 100$ and ounce amongst other things) but in any "Guide Michelin" you'll usually find (very) expensive food which is most definetly worth its money.
I don't quite understand your "waste" point Death.
Technically we wouldn't need any drink on this planet but water, since we only drink to not be thirsty anymore. Anything bottled with flavour is "luxury" and thus waste. If you want to drink water that's fine but I don't see what I'm doing wrong if I'm spending 60$ on a bottle of Champagne (which you don't even drink because your thirsty)
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Exquisite food is the art of B.S.'ing. They brainwash a culture into thinking a very very fine meal is some sort of magically artistic experience and is worth paying several hundreds dollars for it, and if you don't agree, you're allegedly shallow.
I'm not so sure wether you actually know what you're talking about. Exquisite food is art. Have you ever eaten in a place that has Michelin stars? If yes I hope you'll agree with me that the dish you eat there is usually much better than the same dish at a normal restaurant. If you haven't I hope you can reason that out.
Food isn't just food. You can go to town and have a steak and and it'll be good or you can go to a place that serves baby steak from Argentina and it'll be amazing. It's for this (usually enourmous) jump in quality that you pay money. And I don't see how spending more money on better quality food is in any way outrageous. If you could either have a Porsche or a piece of junk and ugly car (which would be fully functional, as in driving without breaking down and being safe) what would you pick? You seriously think that picking the Porsche makes you shallow? An empty personality?
It's simply about enjoying the finer things in life and there is, in my opinion, neither anything wrong nor most certainly anything shallow about it if you do it reason.
Btw this doesn't mean that you can't have extatic food for cheap money. The best "Gulasch" I ever had was free on a farm in Austria. But I hope you've go the jest of my post.
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