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gatecrasher
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 12:31 PM |
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I like it with its archaic mortar cannon and damage range of 1-9.
Kronverk as a whole augurs great with its new Rune Magic concept.
However, it is at leat postponed and the next town is likely to be Forge.
You are again compalining about things that are not or will not (soon) be included.
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 12:44 PM |
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Salamandre said: Look hyppo boy, there is nothing better than constructive, positive and respectful critic. Anybody who did nada for heroes should stick to this moral rule. Saying that you hope a project will never see the light is plain stupid and very disrespectful to those who actually work on it.
More insults from an elitist. How I don't care.
And WTF are you talking about, anyhow? I personally think HotA is an awesome project, and I want to see it succeed. I only said I didn't like a particular model. Doesn't mean I want HotA to fail. I mean, come on, that's nonsense.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 12:48 PM |
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hippox89 said: A dwarf with a hand canon? That stinks of World of Warcraft. Doesn't fit in with the HoMM 3 style.
I'm playing with dwarf cannoneer and don't think he don't fit H3 style. He's done in same style as other cronwerk units.
Maybe not so brilliant unit, but this is a dwarf faction, not glamorous elves or else.
Only think that he's better on 5-6 level with catapult ability.
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 12:48 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 13:01, 26 Aug 2013.
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gatecrasher said: I like it with its archaic mortar cannon and damage range of 1-9.
Kronverk as a whole augurs great with its new Rune Magic concept.
However, it is at leat postponed and the next town is likely to be Forge.
You are again compalining about things that are not or will not (soon) be included.
So I cannot give my opinion on it because it might never happen? That's silly. Feels great being part of this homely community! I'm not the one trying to dominate this forum with my own ideas about things. I guess this is what happens when a community lacks new blood.
I also don't see how Forge (Machines) fits in with trying to create expansion-like content that is the HotA project. Maybe the next will be aliens from space? (That's a joke). But that's just my opinion on that.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 12:57 PM |
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hippox89 said: when a community lacks new blood.
Fresh blood!
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:01 PM |
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hippox89 said: I also don't see how Forge (Machines) fits in with trying to create expansion-like content that is the HotA project. Maybe the net will be aliens from space?
What's so bad about Aliens faction? There is Covenant town already published, and its not ruining HMM3:
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:04 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 13:06, 26 Aug 2013.
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Macron1 said:
hippox89 said: I also don't see how Forge (Machines) fits in with trying to create expansion-like content that is the HotA project. Maybe the net will be aliens from space?
What's so bad about Aliens faction? There is Covenant town already published, and its not ruining HMM3:
Nothing at all my friend. Actually, it's awesome in its own way. I'm sure a lot of people enjoy it and think it's a great mod. I just don't think it fits in with what seems to me to be the goal of HotA design.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:05 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 13:07, 26 Aug 2013.
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hippox89 said: what seemsto me to be the goal of HotA.
As for me I don't see the goal of HOTA any other, than to make some new towns. All other goals are just bluff IMHO.
If on DF2 near completion was town of ghost mouses, it would be included in HOTA
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:05 PM |
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hippox89 said: Looking at the old art of the Kronverk town, I cringe at the level 3 monster. A dwarf with a hand canon? That stinks of World of Warcraft. Doesn't fit in with the HoMM 3 style. Hopefully that'll never see the light of the day.
All the examples of Kronverk graphics including creatures are out of date long time ago.
Quote: But I have a feeling that we won't see anymore towns than the Cove town.
You're wrong.
Some examples of graphics for the second new city you can be seen, for example, here.
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:11 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 13:24, 26 Aug 2013.
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Vade_Parvis said:
hippox89 said: Looking at the old art of the Kronverk town, I cringe at the level 3 monster. A dwarf with a hand canon? That stinks of World of Warcraft. Doesn't fit in with the HoMM 3 style. Hopefully that'll never see the light of the day.
All the examples of Kronverk graphics including creatures are out of date long time ago.
Quote: But I have a feeling that we won't see anymore towns than the Cove town.
You're wrong.
Some examples of graphics for the second new city you can be seen, for example, here.
Yes, I know it's old stuff.
I see, that's interesting. I didn't think they'd go in that direction, so that is news to me. Well, I don't actually personally mind it if I can just turn that town content off. I love the Cove town and one town is more than enough for me + new balance + a few well-thought-out changes to the core game. More stuff is rarely better in my book.
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:12 PM |
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By the way about hand-held mortars:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_mortar
Do they not fit in with the HoMM 3 style?
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:17 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 13:21, 26 Aug 2013.
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I think it fits in for a game like Killing Floor. They actually just added it. I do think a canon and flint pistols makes perfect sense for pirates, though. But that's the absolute tech limit in my book.
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Wazzz
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:22 PM |
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i thought the hota team was working on the forge town, if they're still working on it
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:31 PM |
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Wazzz said: i thought the hota team was working on the forge town, if they're still working on it
They are working on it, definitely.
PS As there are several Forges already, I started to think, that HOTA had mistaken. Cathedral is much more wanted faction among users. And it's more interesting, that another repaints of similar creatures.
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:43 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 13:59, 26 Aug 2013.
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Macron1 said:
Wazzz said: i thought the hota team was working on the forge town, if they're still working on it
They are working on it, definitely.
PS As there are several Forges already, I started to think, that HOTA had mistaken. Cathedral is much more wanted faction among users. And it's more interesting, that another repaints of similar creatures.
I just don't understand why the team didn't prioritize finishing the translate + polishing the Cove - and HotA in general - before starting to make a completely new town?
I see they're discussing the option to disable towns, though, but there's no confirmation about it, yet. That's great in theory as it would make everybody happy. They could add Halo aliens then for all I care. I'd imagine that it'd be rather difficult to add such an option, but if they don't, people like me would probably just stick to SoD, even though I think the Cove town is damn beautiful work. Forge is a radical town, even if you love it. The Cathedral sounds like something I'd personally like. Good theme and nothing too radical in terms of SoD standards.
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Vade_Parvis
Known Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 01:57 PM |
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Wazzz said: i thought the hota team was working on the forge town, if they're still working on it
Yes, they're still working on it. I can say this with confidence as a team member
Macron1 said: PS As there are several Forges already, I started to think, that HOTA had mistaken. Cathedral is much more wanted faction among users. And it's more interesting, that another repaints of similar creatures.
We do not think it was a mistake. And our Forge will not have repainted creatures from other factions — the current lineup is much more interesting.
hippox89 said: I just don't understand why the team didn't prioritize finishing the translate + polishing the Cove - and HotA in general - before starting to make a completely new town?
Because completely different people are involved in the creation of new content and translation of texts. Sincerely and always Yours, Captain obvious.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 02:02 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 14:03, 26 Aug 2013.
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Vade_Parvis said: And our Forge will not have repainted creatures from other factions — the current lineup is much more interesting.
Cathedral lineup is much more interesting.
I don't think that rotating droids and deia goblins are very interesting.
PS Polish Forge is moving to converted creatures direction because it don't want to be HOTA Forge clone. And I think their idea is more interesting than another set of modern weapons troopers set.
Their conversion can became new necromancy-like killer feature.
If their manage to convert at least one creature from each standard town (except conflux), they'll produce super idea.
I like it more, that HOTA idea now.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted August 26, 2013 02:03 PM |
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Sav
Known Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 02:08 PM |
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Edited by Sav at 14:11, 26 Aug 2013.
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Quote: I just don't understand why the team didn't prioritize finishing the translate + polishing the Cove - and HotA in general - before starting to make a completely new town?
Actually, making a completely new town is a low priority goal. But there is enough number of people who makes graphics in team, so they often can allow themselves to work at things they want, no matter theirs priority.
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2013 02:15 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 14:18, 26 Aug 2013.
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Sav said:
Quote: I just don't understand why the team didn't prioritize finishing the translate + polishing the Cove - and HotA in general - before starting to make a completely new town?
Actually, making a completely new town is a low priority goal. But there is enough number of people who makes graphics in team, so they often can allow themselves to work at things they want, no matter theirs priority.
I thought this was the case. But no harm asking right? No wait. I just got insulted yet again (by Vade_Parvis now). I think I am done with this friendly community for some time, at least. I have not been anything else than friendly. But f**k me right? Just because some don't agree with some of my opinions.
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