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Vangelis21
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posted June 16, 2008 07:47 PM |
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New maps! Please i need your help
Hi guys  . I thought to give it a try and create 2 maps for all the community. But of course i need your help. So below are the links from where you can download my maps and play, test them or even just look at them with the editor. I really need your help to publish them at toh! 
The power of choice
http://w17.easy-share.com/1700651331.html
Under the sun
http://w17.easy-share.com/1700651341.html
Some things to remember  :
1. The maps are not published and formal so don't start playing for points!
2. They are not finalized. I need your help and advice to finalize them.
3. If you have any problems downloading them, playing etc or any questions and advice please send me a message at msn. For you who doesn't have me vangelis21toh@hotmail.com
Please i am awaiting for your thoughts
Thank you 
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Elit
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posted June 16, 2008 08:43 PM |
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Edited by Elit at 22:06, 16 Jun 2008.
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I see so many "mistakes" on map.
1. Here have alot mages/hunters. They can be join so easy.
2. Its easy to get all good bildings because you put all together. For example two arenas on one place...and other similar x2 bildings.
3. Mines (cristal/gem/sulfur/mercury)can't be get easy. Not random resurces. Its hard to build town when no resurces.
4. Put Utopia to main tow is bad idea.
5. Have "strange" guards. One huts is guarded from lvl 3, other from lvl 7. Part from guards not did any job.
7. Map not real idea...just much from all.
Hope my comments will help you
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Vangelis21
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posted June 16, 2008 08:58 PM |
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My dear Elit, i am afraid i can't agree with any of these. The truth is of course that i can't understand everything you wrote. Your opinion acceptable and repsectable though
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nevermind
Famous Hero
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posted June 16, 2008 09:44 PM |
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Hahaha here's an awesome tip , Thats got to be the worst free hosting site ever , I enter it and its like : You have : 1000 gazilion seconds to download..
If i'll ever download i can look at it and comment about it
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Vangelis21
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posted June 16, 2008 09:49 PM |
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i just found it ! anyway you can give a real tip though...
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Vangelis21
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posted June 16, 2008 09:51 PM |
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in case you didnt get it i wad kidding! there are stupid sites anywher, i am waiting for your feedback!
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted June 16, 2008 09:53 PM |
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Quote:
My dear Elit, i am afraid i can't agree with any of these. The truth is of course that i can't understand everything you wrote. Your opinion acceptable and repsectable though
Yes my english is bad so can be hard to understand me
In short your map need alot fix to can be ready for 1vs1 games.
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Vangelis21
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posted June 16, 2008 10:14 PM |
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I dont agree, i have played some times and i think it is almost ok. if you have something specific please say it. but a lot of fixes doesnt help me
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 27, 2008 02:03 PM |
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I can understand that free time is limited but does nobody have several minutes to take a look? ToH should encourage creating new maps not shun it. It costs nothing to give a piece of your mind, go ahead
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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winterfate
Supreme Hero
Water-marked Champion!
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posted June 29, 2008 10:03 AM |
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Well, I guess I could take a look on Monday night...
But, I'm not much of a map tester. How am I supposed to know if it's balanced or not? 
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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Vangelis21
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posted June 29, 2008 11:34 AM |
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first of all take a look at it in the editor and see pthe appearance and maybe some things that you thing are very strong or very weak. after play it in single player and see what is easy, difficult, fast,slow etc. in few words just see ifr you would play it easily with an opponent and have fun
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winterfate
Supreme Hero
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posted June 30, 2008 01:03 AM |
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@Vangelis21: Sure thing, my friend!
I'll test both of them tonight (I thought my dad was off today...so that's why I said Monday. )
EDIT: I can't seem to get the maps. I get an Internal Server error...
I think you may have to place the maps on the hosting site again.
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted June 30, 2008 01:38 AM |
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winterfate
Supreme Hero
Water-marked Champion!
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posted June 30, 2008 02:26 AM |
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Thanks!
Now I can check them out for Vangelis.
EDIT:
@Vangelis21: Ok...I looked over both maps in the map editor:
The Power of Choice: There are two Learning Stones missing on the south side (where the mages are located). If you want to maintain balance, then you need to add them.
(The North Side has a total of 4 Learning Stones near the huge piles of Gold while the South Side only has 2)
Under the Sun: I took one look at it and fell in love with the map. It looks pretty cool, and I like the neat touch of starting with the Boots of the Open Road as well.
The only thing I'd fix would be the guards of the Learning Stones. Setting them to a random level can be dangerous (disturbing thoughts of level 7 guardians come to mind.), not to mention, unbalancing (disturbing thoughts of one player having level 7 guardians while the other has level 1 guardians. ).
I'm going to play Under the Sun now. I'm going to play as Ossir/Sylvan and I'll let you know how the map feels for me.
POST GAME EDIT:
Well, I finished playing Under the Sun. It's pretty good. Like I said before though, you need to derandomize the stacks guarding the Learning Stones. I had Sprites in one of them and Death Knights ( ) in the other one. I was playing as the Red Player.
Other Considerations:
- The Level 7 Military Post starts the game flagged under your control. It is guarded by Phoenixes though, so I'm not sure if that was intentional or you accidentally left the building flagged in the map editor.
- The garrisons are not set to neutral. Not sure if that's intentional (I think it is), but, in my opinion, it's best that they be neutral.
- Didn't check the portals, so I don't know where they lead.
- Instant Travel is enabled in the Mage Guild, and there are a LOT of places to teleport into your opponent's territory with that spell. I'd remove it.
That's about it, really. I enjoyed this map very much and I hope it becomes a ToH staple in the future.
Good work!
GOODIES:
Here's a pic of me fighting the final battle against the Hard AI. Notice my obvious lack of troops. My creeping was sub-par, but this is a forgiving map.
(I'm on the right. The foolish computer actually attacked me!  )
Here's the replay of that battle:
http://www.speedyshare.com/440560443.html
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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Vangelis21
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posted June 30, 2008 09:01 AM |
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thanks a lot winterfate, and thanks to phoenixreborn for reuploading them. i was planning on doing it right now. as for your advice: i will fix most of them coz i agree. most of them are accidental except the garisson in under the sun . i had this idea of already being under the players' so you will be gathering the level 7 tier but taking it after yo9u beat the phoenixes
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 30, 2008 12:06 PM |
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Outrageously lucky, nice
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Map also hosted on Moddb
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winterfate
Supreme Hero
Water-marked Champion!
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posted July 01, 2008 04:03 AM |
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@Elvin: Thanks!
@Vangelis21: Anytime, my friend!
EDIT: Ok...I've updated Under the Sun to 1.1 using the advices I gave Vangelis21, because he's been busy lately. Here's the change log, which is also included in the download link I will provide below:
CHANGELOG for Version 1.1 of Under the Sun.
Created by Vangelis21
Edited by winterfate
- The random ANY level guards at the Learning Stones at the outer edges of both player's territories have been replaced by random Level 2 guards.
- The spell Instant Travel has been disabled.
- The garrisons blocking passage between the two halves of the map are now under neutral control (in version 1.0 one was controlled by Red and the other by Blue).
- Stables with random Level 3 guards have been added at the halfway points of each player's territory.
As you may have noticed, besides what I told Vangelis, I also added Stables to the map. Good? Bad? Additional map testing would be appreciated. After all, I have my point of view on how maps should work, but you may have your own.
Anyways, linkie:
http://www.speedyshare.com/700416412.html
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
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posted July 05, 2008 08:22 AM |
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thanks for the editing winterfate but i will find the time to make the changes myself! also, i dont agree with the stable and the dweeling. i want them belonging to the players!
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Vangelis21
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posted July 05, 2008 08:31 AM |
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changes have been done, more testing please!!
Newer version !!!
Under the sun version 1.2
http://www.speedyshare.com/184645582.html
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winterfate
Supreme Hero
Water-marked Champion!
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posted July 05, 2008 10:43 PM |
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@Vangelis21: No problem!
But, the dwellings are still flagged under their respective player's control...I didn't change that...
Perhaps you mean the garrisons at the border of each player's territory (they have Phoenixes inside of them)?
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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