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espen15
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posted August 04, 2008 07:41 PM |
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Poll Question:
Who is the best starting hero?
Here is the poll with the subject which was question for all in heroescommunity.I wanted to know who is the best early rusher, who can kill big neutrals with no losses and that in early of the game.
Although its very tough choice, there are many good starting heroes.
Well i voted for Deleb, his ballista is clearly overpowered and that is exactly what you will need for early creeping.
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Elvin
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posted August 04, 2008 07:51 PM |
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Deleb's early ballista is rubbish compared to Telsek or Haggash's, I'm surprised the former isn't in the top faster heroes. I'd go for Sinitar, he can creep non-stop and defeat almost everything with furies and stalkers. Haggash, Vittorio and Kragh are good choices after him. In fact Kragh has killed 14 archangels week 2 by himself Why Deleb is not as good as the aforementioned? No early flaming arrows and fragile inferno units.
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espen15
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posted August 04, 2008 08:00 PM |
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Deleb's early ballista is rubbish compared to Telsek or Haggash's, I'm surprised the former isn't in the top faster heroes. I'd go for Sinitar, he can creep non-stop and defeat almost everything with furies and stalkers. Haggash, Vittorio and Kragh are good choices after him. In fact Kragh has killed 14 archangels week 2 by himself Why Deleb is not as good as the aforementioned? No early flaming arrows and fragile inferno units.
well elvin i should say sinitar has got only 10 mana from the start to cast powerful destructive magic as battles get tougher there is no mana, then you discover that you will have small stack creatures and losses will come.
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Elvin
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posted August 04, 2008 08:22 PM |
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Then why has this never happened to me and instead I manage to creep faster than the other heroes?  Of course takes some luck with secrets of destruction, from the point you get a fire spell it's a playground and mana has never worried me much.
Haggash can be an insanely fast creeper as well but may not get warmachines and flaming fast. Only Telsek, Vittorio and Kragh are guaranteed insane creeping with Kragh's strength varying on whether you fight high tier units or lower. Arcanes are nasty, tier 6-7 are easy.
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espen15
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posted August 04, 2008 08:33 PM |
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maby because you play in heroic rarely, and maby i just am a very bad player .
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Asheera
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posted August 04, 2008 08:35 PM |
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Voted for Sinitar as well.
And espen, Deleb is a SHE
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Lexxan
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posted August 04, 2008 08:38 PM |
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In the course of the Game, i've specialised myself in Gilraen. I have the best results with him (But I basically suck at creeping). Of those listed above, I'd pick Vittorio: Ballista Pwns everything.
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espen15
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posted August 04, 2008 08:41 PM |
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Voted for Sinitar as well.
And espen, Deleb is a SHE
sorry for that -SHE.
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Elvin
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posted August 04, 2008 08:42 PM |
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Well with this piece of human flesh she wears as a mask it's hard to tell  Sick detail. Good thing with her is that she can get exp logs right after warmachines that makes her pretty fast but I wouldn't attack most of the casters and the good shooters early even with tent.
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espen15
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posted August 04, 2008 08:45 PM |
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Well with this piece of human flesh she wears as a mask it's hard to tell Sick detail. Good thing with her is that she can get exp logs right after warmachines that makes her pretty fast but I wouldn't attack most of the casters and the good shooters early even with tent.
i never care about heros faces, but more of their skills and specials, but to be honest Delebīs face looks sick.
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Lexxan
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posted August 04, 2008 08:46 PM |
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She's a demon. What would you expect
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espen15
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posted August 04, 2008 08:52 PM |
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Demons are heros too, but better face buildup is required for her.
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Elvin
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posted August 04, 2008 08:58 PM |
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Maybe they don't have face lifting there
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adon
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posted August 05, 2008 05:22 AM |
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Edited by adon at 05:24, 05 Aug 2008.
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By faction, my preferred early game heroes:
Dungeon: Yrwanna (stronger furies and lots of mana early on), Sinitar (access to secrets of destruction and destructive magic)
Academy: Havez (tons of shooters to start, plus war machines? come on)
Fortress: Karli (lots of luck early on + ranged units), or Ingvar (duh)
Necrop: Kaspar (tent + warmachines), Nadir (great spell selection right off, good special to protect units)
Stronghold: Haggash (tons of shooters + high initiative for those, attack right away, easy access to flaming arrows)
Demon: Deleb (duh)
Haven: Dougal (tons of shooters) or Vittorio (awesome ballista + tent early)
Sylvan: Ossir (the only "easy" starter for Sylvan in my opinion)
Oh, and I voted "Not here" because Havez to me is THE easiest starter of all factions. Lots of mana, as long as you can grab a quick destructive spell or even fire trap, the gremlins + war machines + spells...this guy has 3 good things going to start him off.
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Elvin
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posted August 05, 2008 05:47 AM |
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I forgot Havez and you are right, probably the easiest to play with in the beginning. A simple test is to play these heroes on dragon's cape and break through the garrison on week 3. Havez is one of the privileged few that can ALWAYS do that AND get the goldmine day 5(lots of mages) with almost no losses. Now if you add warmachines, spellcasting and mini arties on week 3 the garrison is a minor obstacle while would avoid.
Naadir is also a fast creeper but I'd still rate him lower. With some luck in gaining good knowledge he can take down silly garrisons very early.
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kermit
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posted August 05, 2008 02:07 PM |
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Sinitar is a one man army, fastest creeper out there for my taste
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Drako_the_noob
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posted August 05, 2008 02:25 PM |
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Its obvious, Duogal is the best.
P.S: Or Knight Dougal? (KD is the short of KnightDougal)
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Lexxan
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posted August 05, 2008 03:11 PM |
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The best Thing you can have is having a Main specialised in tier 2-3 units (Laszlo, Dougal, Gilraen) and then get Ossir in your Tavern. I got Ossir once when playing Lazslo. Easiest creeping ever.
Ossir deserves a vote at least (I already voted though, picked Vittiorio)
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FoolishMan
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posted August 05, 2008 05:31 PM |
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my vote goes to haggash
it might not work 100% of time but from what i played and saw others play ,it doesn't require much of knowledge and tactics to creep fast with her ,almost everytime you just play the same game with tent and flaming and you have no need to worry by week 2 you'll be able to kill every guard with no or very little losses,and by that time you can be around lvl 20 ,depending on map
also kragh,teslek and grauna can be extremely fast
usually if you get the right setup you won't have the need to play most of the battles by yourself (than you can snow how someone that has necro or demon or dwarf plays very long turns  )
other heroes can creep pretty fast but they require some practice and knowledge how to do it
deleb for sure is not at the top
havez can be very good with his starting skill and army ,but he needs pretty good player skills to be played to full potential
sinitar is pretty good also, but haven't played for a long time
necro heroes are also pretty good at creeping kaspar and naadir for sure
vittorio is the fastest haven hero ,dougal can be very good if you have little luck with lvl-ups,also maeve and klaus got to be mentioned but they are nowhere near vittorio
sylvan are not that fast with ossir the best starting hero for obvious reasons
with dwarves it's pretty impossible to creep at the level of other top creepers ,but here ingvar seems the best
hoverer of might heroes orcs are the fastest ,they don't need to go back to the castle pretty much at all and rage is pretty unbalanced thing the way it is right now in my opinion
magic heroes can do wonders with the right magic but they usually need to go back to the castle to learn their magic if they get the right magic at all,exept maybe warlock that can creep very good with stalkers (and fury) for a pretty long time,but they often need to replentish their mana so it takes some knowledge when you must use the spell and when you can kill without it( walkers)
so in a way i'd say orcs are the easiest to play and have probbably if not the best than very close to it creeping abilities
larry fanoga
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Asheera
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posted August 05, 2008 07:06 PM |
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Haven: Irina (the battle-dive ability given to normal Griffins help a lot at creeping ranged neutrals)
Sylvan: Ossir
Academy: Nur and Havez
Fortress: Ingvar
Dungeon: Sinitar and Yrwanna
Stronghold: Haggash and Kragh
Inferno: Grok (agree with Lex, Teleport helps a lot)
Necropolis: Naadir
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