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Ghost
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posted October 31, 2013 02:55 PM

Common beauty was one place for good mind Someone look for guy then wait it's place Ok we don't need than now gf/bf! If want be strategy Hungary? What you think drinks, taxi and sleep place etc pays? When you are +30 aged so you know time waste

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posted November 04, 2013 07:15 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 21:05, 15 Nov 2013.

I've found the polar opposite of TheDeath, when it comes to rationality and relationships. Link.
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Eating, procreating, defending yourself with violence...these are the instincts that helped your ancestors survive. We have to remember that the most sophisticated levels of our highly evolved brains were not meant to replace instincts, but to compliment them. We forget this in the modern age. When you feel the instinctive desire to engage in sexual intercourse, your conscious brain is supposed to help you do it. It is not supposed to reason its way out of the desire. Take the following statements:

“I like this guy, but he’s not Jewish, so I can't date him.”

“I'd like to have kids, but I’ll wait till I finish my master's degree.”

“I am attracted to that girl, but she might reject me, so I'll just sit here.”

Gah! This is what modern men and women are doing with their superbrains? Talking themselves out of sex? It’s no wonder that living with these ass-backwards social norms Monday through Friday drives us to binge drinking on the weekends. I think we’d probably lose our goddam minds if we couldn't get wasted every once in a while and access the real, pure, hard-wired instincts that drive our behavior and emotion.

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posted November 04, 2013 10:28 AM

There's a point in that.
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Ghost
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posted November 04, 2013 03:12 PM

Hm ok in summary you are beauty so you have hard get a beauty also you are ok-looking but hard ask about beauty. Alcohol can help you! Without alcohol you find your lvl-looking.. Maybe right thought

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posted November 04, 2013 04:21 PM

JoonasTo said:
There's a point in that.
The only point in that post that's correct is that sexual hangups based on religion are bad. Everything else is complete nonsense.
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Ghost
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posted November 04, 2013 05:32 PM

Religion? Adam said Eve is beauty therefor? What's beauty? My opinion what? Men know about women and women know about men but lots of women know about woman than men know about men. Bi, gay, selfishness, unfair etc Not self-knowledge but media or something You can watch people in town

Hollywood vs royal couple Ok what schooler then? Environment! If bad religion ie. evil of the environment.

So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. - 2. Timothy 2:22 ESV

no my bible place

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posted November 04, 2013 06:03 PM
Edited by Fauch at 18:18, 04 Nov 2013.

wait? alcohol is the key to love?
I knew it was a good way to divorce, but not the other way lol

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You make a great point. my husband Mark and I would have NEVER kissed/made out/started dating had we not been wasted on our first date. we would have talked ourselves out of the weirdness and misperceived incompatibility. similarly, we would never have conceived Aaron had we not been sooooo wasted. It was not in our plans to have a baby before I finished school. I blame the booze for me telling him to forget the condom that ONE time. thank you liquor for giving me my life’s 2 greatest gifts. never thought about that till just now.


we are so compatible when we are wasted

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posted November 04, 2013 06:39 PM

Fauch said:
we are so compatible when we are wasted


Amen.
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posted November 04, 2013 06:51 PM
Edited by Fauch at 19:50, 04 Nov 2013.

the guys who writes this blog seems very much into cave babes

btw, why do people always come with the argument that we have the brain of a caveman, as if it never evolves? our brain shapes itself every day of our live.

this guy is also totally taking love (err... I mean irrationnality) out of the equation it seems.

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The_Gootch
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posted November 15, 2013 08:42 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 00:37, 16 Mar 2014.

Will you uber-nerds stop splitting hairs?

The only thing that Corribus is wrong about is politics.

That being said, I've got something to share.  

Almost 18 years ago, I had my 21st birthday.  One of my good friends had a girlfriend who was sufficently impressed with me and wanted to arrange for me to meet her best friend, a tantalizingly delicious half-Filipina, half-German girl of 17.  My life was a bit more complex back then as I was juggling different open relationships while being honest with my lovers.  At the time I was down to just one other so I was amenable to taking on one more at least.  

So we meet on my birthday and snow me if I wasn't just smitten with her.  She was fun, playful, and she let me know what she thought of me when, within the first hour of meeting her, she grabbed me by my hand and took me into the women's bathroom of the pool hall we were at.  She locked the door, turned to me and said, "You are alone in a bathroom with a beautiful woman.  What do you do?" Was she serious? Was I living a choose your own adventure where I knew the right choice led to a happy ending? I lifted her by her hips, sat her on the bathroom counter, and kissed her in a way I'd only reserved for one other.  We went no further, nor did I try.  

The date ended by mid-afternoon.  I had to get ready for girl #1, the woman I'd already been dating, who I had planned to spend a quiet dinner with.  My buddy picked me up, drove us to her place, and directed me to go upstairs to her apartment while he looked for parking.  My date answered the intercom, bade me come up, and buzzed me in.  Unassuming, I walked into her apartment, turned the corner, and was met with twoscore friends and acquaintances who thundered, "SURPRISE!!"  As fate's cruel sense of humor would have it, the lovely young lady was also there.

I was screwed.  Even though I was in an open relationship, I had not had the time nor inclination to discuss the details of my paramours to each other.  After much deliberation and a couple of shots of Tequila, I came clean to my birthday host.  She seemed a bit peeved, but believed me when I told her I had nothing to do with # 2 being there.  Well, I interpreted that as a blessing and fooled around with both of them at the party--separately of course.  I didn't bother to tell #2 the nature of the relationship between myself and the host, nor did she ask.  Unfortunately for me, my antics blew up in my face when #1, the host, caught me in a 3 way kiss with #2 and her bff, my buddy's girlfriend, underneath the mistletoe that had been hanging in the apartment.  She retreated to her bedroom, shed some tears, and told me to go home when I spoke to her.  So I did--with #2.

#2, who's name is Rebecca, and I, tried to make a go of it.  It was long distance, neither of us had a car, and I was still in the 1st year of breaking up with who was then the love of my life, and therefore not interested in a commitment.  Plus, she was significantly younger than I was, and I found it difficult to relate to and communicate with her.  

We saw each other sporadically over the next few years.  The last time I saw her then was 1998.  I reiterated my inability to be in a committed relationship with her while kissing her.  She pulled away and stared at me with her dark, soulful eyes, seeming to ask me, "Why won't you let me in?"

The last time I heard from her then was 1999, where she left contact information on a voicemail and would I like to get together?  In trying to replay the message, I accidentally deleted it, and did not have the ability to retrieve it.  To this year, she had been at the top of my list of woulda, coulda, shoulda.  I never had been able to explain my aloof behavior to her, nor why our coming together the first time was tainted.  Fortunately for me, I never felt the need to lie in order to seduce her.  Despite our passion, we had never consummated our affection then.  I long wondered what became of her and what she was doing with her life.

On October 20 of this year, she contacted me via social media.  We spent countless hours getting reacquainted with each other, and made plans to see each other.  I dropped everything else going on in my life and broke up with the woman I was seeing in order to make sure I came to her clean.

I am now into my second week with her.  Within days, she wrote me this poem.  Among the many women who have written poetry to, for, and about me, she is second to none.

What is love, you may ask?  As a man, all I have to say about love is, "Whatever it takes, you are first in my life."  That is love.  Save your 'yeah buts'.  There is no hesitation, no pontification, no reservation.  You are all in or don't bother to call it love.



Getting ready to change my name to The_Smootch.

Edit:  Poem removed per the wishes of the author.

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Corribus
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posted November 16, 2013 12:35 AM

Great post, except for the part about me being wrong about politics...
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Salamandre
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posted November 16, 2013 01:06 AM

(Translated: I'll give you a QP if you delete that.)

Best moments in life I agree, but:

The_Gootch said:
I am now into my second week with her.


This is testosterone, not love yet, post update in about 5 years to see.
If only always could be like the first 4 weeks, I would not even bother with anything else than girls.

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posted November 16, 2013 02:19 AM
Edited by The_Gootch at 18:53, 03 Dec 2013.

@ Salamandre, says you.  Five years together is an artificial construct that otherwise intelligent people create in order to make sense of their emotions.  I maintain that love at first reacquaintance is not only possible, but plausible as well.  My brother thought the same way you do, saying he needed to be with someone for five years before he'd consider marrying them.

I don't know about this marriage business anymore.  What matters to me is where they stand in my life according to my actions.  What I do know is that for the first time in my life I am going to forsake all others, including breaking my own comitatus, in order to give this an honest shot.  I love my friends and have lived my life accordingly.  My friends will not nurture me when I'm ill.  They wil not make coffee for me, stroke my hair, make love to me, or give me a baby.  She would.  End of story there.

This is not testosterone speaking.  I'm a year away from 40 and am going to be needing testosterone therapies soon as well as those little blue pills.  That's the downside of aging but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

You may call it crazy, impetuous, foolhardy, stupid, naive, take your pick.  You may take it upon yourself to provide me with the kind of reality gut-check I have oft given to others here and abroad.  You have served as a foil for me ever since I came here, which makes us the old men of the forum.  That's ok.  I have dished it for the better part of a decade here.  I better be able to take it.

Now pardon me while I pop some Ibuprofen and get ready to go dance.  
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artu
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posted November 16, 2013 04:50 AM

In general, I agree with Sal. Love at first sight is an illusion and not even a romantic illusion if you ask me, it indicates love is shallow and based on looks only. Here's how the illusion usually works, say you're in a bar, you suddenly find yourself face to face with a beautiful woman, your eyes connect and there's a passionate vibe between you. Now you make your move and meet her, you spend sometime dating, then you go exclusive, then you start living together and many years from now, you're telling your grandchildren that you fell in love with their grandma the first time you saw her. But let's go back to that night in the bar and this time imagine a little earthquake happened just while you were having eye contact. They immediately evacuated the building, you said to yourself you had enough for one night and headed for home. What would your story be the other day?
a)
- Man, I saw this hot chick last night looking at me but then there was this earthquake and we all went out, I lost her. snow happens. Whatever... Do you think I should call Jane?
b)
- I finally met the love of my life last night, I fell for her the second I saw her but now she's gone forever and I will miss her my entire life with a huge hole in my heart.

That being said, I don't think your story (the real one) would be categorized as love at first sight. You seem to have shared enough time with  this girl over the years and through internet. So enjoy the clouds while you're up there.

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posted December 03, 2013 06:47 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 19:12, 03 Dec 2013.

To their credit, the boys quieted down long enough for the men to have a talk.  

I understand and sympathize more with Salamandre's position than yours Artu.  I could not disagree more with you.  It is entirely possible to fall in love at first sight with someone, and deeply at that.  I've experienced it in my life on a few occasions.  I know better than to confuse base physical attraction for love.

Your argument seems to stem from two directions.  The first is that you've never experienced love at first sight and your skeptical, analytical side therefore discounts the possibility.  On that, without casting aspersions I will just say that you and I experience the world differently.

Second, you seem to try to elevate yourself above other men in the way you discount what men are designed by evolution to do when it comes to looking for an appropriate mate.  That is, we use our eyes.  Don't you ever make excuses for it.

Spare me the blahs about how looks are only skin deep and aren't an indicator for long term compatibility.  If I'm not attracted to her, then I'm not going to pursue her.  Instead, I'll let myself be pursued until I get bored and either dump them or act like such a douche they've no alternative but to dump me.

Back to love.  It was Cersei Lannister who said, "...a mother can only love her children."  There is a solid truth here.  How is this love expressed?  Refer to my previous comment about who comes first in our lives.  Rebecca has a son from a previous relationship.  He comes first in her life.  On that there is no negotiating, no whining, no complaining.  As a single mother, her roots run deeper than mine.  What does that mean for me?  It means I'm moving to Minnesota in order to give us an honest chance.  After all,  she comes first in my life.  

I just got divorced back in June after a nine year separation.  The amount and variety of poon I've been enjoying since has been nothing short of spectacular.  I was very much looking forward to living the next several years of my life as a carefree libertine.


And then the one who got away got a hold of me.  I would be a fool to ignore the universe and let her slip away again.
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posted December 03, 2013 07:19 PM

Love at first sight is impossible - it's infatuation at most. You can't love someone you don't know, and if you've just met them, you obviously don't know them. You can love how you imagine them to be, but that isn't them. Looks are important for compatibility, but they're very subjective - I often hear of old men finding their wives attractive after decades of marriage, so one's perception of looks is influenced by other factors. Good personality, intelligence, kindness, and other traits make average-at-first-sight people look amazingly attractive, and their absence makes even attractive-at-first-sight people look as interesting as furniture. There is a minimum level of physical attractiveness that other factors can't make up for, but it's rather low, and above it other things are more important.
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posted December 03, 2013 07:50 PM

@Gootch

I said nothing even close to "looks are not important at all." I only indicated it is not enough for love in the deep sense of the word, the one with the big L. Since you claim to "know better than to confuse base physical attraction for love" I assume you agree with the fact that there is a major difference between the two. Evolution is about reproduction and therefore about the first not about the latter. There have been many cultures without the concept of romantic love.

You say it happened to you, well, I'll ask you the same thing again, if somehow, you had never seen those persons you say you've fallen for at first sight ever again, that is, if your only memory of them would be the first 5 minutes you spent with them, (then hypothetical earthquake hits and we continue on a different timeline), would you, looking back, still call it love at first sight?

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posted December 03, 2013 07:50 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 19:51, 03 Dec 2013.

@Mvass, like your opinions on economics, your thoughts here are ill-conceived and rely solely on your own little world.  Since anecdotal experience on love at first sight will not sway you, allow me to karate chop you with an expert opinion.

I win
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posted December 03, 2013 08:19 PM

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only 11 percent of the 493 respondents said their long-term relationships started that way. As for the rest of us? Psychologists say that the more you interact with a person you like (even slightly), the more you come to regard him as good-looking, smart, and similar to you—unless you discover something that breaks the spell.
Sounds like what I said.
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posted December 03, 2013 08:53 PM

I laugh Ok http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heideggerian_terminology#Care_.28or_concern.29

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