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antipaladin
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posted August 25, 2008 06:23 PM |
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When did I say you called my ideas silly?
Well the obvious problem here seems to be the silly/immature off-topicness. So I did not start it.
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Look, it's like this:
1) I say something
2) Hey, Invisible Pink Unicorns exist, you should consider their existence
Well nice to put my entire posts into one phrase but I DID give arguments though, please consider that.
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3) What should I say? That I agree?
No, you can argue with it, if you want, and reply to it. You can use arguments. Not "that's silly".
Somehow people always believe that I want them to agree with me. If they agree, there's no discussion. I want them to discuss, and possibly supply arguments, etc... NOT FLAME THE SUBJECT.
Just because you don't flame a subject doesn't mean you have to agree. Seriously ppl stop these extreme examples, they are not going to help.
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I think we already won. 
Ok seriously I'm waiting for this to end, because GL has to read it and he said it's an eye-sore. 
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Thus the subjectiveness of usefulness.
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Majority creates usefulness.
Majority is subjective.
Thus usefulness is subjective.
logical enough?
your just trying to win,mvas is trying to get out ,and ash is getting annyoed couse she knows your going to win.
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posted August 25, 2008 06:24 PM |
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Edited by TheDeath at 18:25, 25 Aug 2008.
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What makes you think your arguments are better than "Because I say so!". I find your arguments silly as well
Meh you're either doing this intentionally or simply can't comprehend. And I see you haven't stopped the useless off-topic silly spamming 
My arguments are... arguments. Just arguments. JUST ARGUMENTS. Do you have to agree with them? Hell no, then the discussion would end. And I never said it even.
How about you give arguments instead of saying "that's silly"? Not agree with me, but do something useful. Do I have to agree with your arguments? Hell no, but I will try to reply civilized with arguments. I'm not going to be close-minded as you.
I can find your arguments convincing, or not. Depends. Doesn't have anything to do with them being "silly" or what not, maybe it's my incapacity to understand them.
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And besides, as I said, I don't want to discuss your silly and immature things, and you also said that you won't quote me again, so do me a favor and respect that.
You started the off-topic BS with silly and immature and etc. I see however that you want to be the one who has the "last word". I'm only trying to clarify MY POINT. You can clarify yours, but you don't have one, except "that's silly".
Of course you MIGHT have one, but you didn't write it down. I'll be happy to hear it.
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your just trying to win,mvas is trying to get out ,and ash is getting annyoed couse she knows your going to win.
Anti let's be more on topic at least and not talk about Gold medals in this thread or "win" or "lose" etc. 
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posted August 25, 2008 06:27 PM |
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My arguments are... arguments. Just arguments. JUST ARGUMENTS.
Your arguments are no better than: "Because I say so"
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How about you give arguments instead of saying "that's silly"?
That's silly, because I (but also almost everyone) say so. Is that argument clear? What makes you think yours are better? As I said, they are so silly that they are not.
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posted August 25, 2008 06:32 PM |
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Your arguments are no better than: "Because I say so"
How precisely do you measure how "better" they are, and thus arrived at this conclusion? In fact, please do me a favor, get back, copy all my posts, all my phrases, etc... and then say that it is equivalent to "Because I say so!"
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That's silly, because I (but also almost everyone) say so. Is that argument clear?
What argument? You didn't even give one.
Oh I know, you give the "Majority is Right" argument.
Hmm, I will quote the religion & crusade thing again but you'll ignore it anyway just like you did previously. What's the point?
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What makes you think yours are better?
Nothing. Except my own thinking which I tried to express here. Are you going to keep on that question. I already answered this freaking question before (previous post). It's not about being "better" it's about discussion and PRESENTING arguments. WTH is so hard to understand? Each side presents arguments.
You did, however, present the "majority" (or at least what YOU think is the majority, read up on consensus reality.... AGAIN) argument hat "majority is RIGHT".
I countered that argument with my crusade example. I have yet to see you not ignore it. A discussion can only go forward if you keep on quoting NEW arguments and counter-arguments, not cling on my initial ones.
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As I said, they are so silly that they are not.
k boss!
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posted August 25, 2008 06:33 PM |
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I countered that argument with my crusade example
k boss! Whatever you say
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posted August 25, 2008 06:36 PM |
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I countered that argument with my crusade example
k boss! Whatever you say
look who's immature
If you think that my counter argument has flaws REPLY TO IT. Of course, since you don't, you ignored it. Thank you very much.
You know Ash, it's really simple how to work out a discussion:
Side A Start a subject with argument A
Side B uses counter-argument A on first argument A
Side A counter-arguments the new Side B's argument (crusade)
Side B counter-arguments further on the NEW Side A's arguments (which you didn't, except for "k boss"). 
Instead, you reply to the same old arguments I made at the beginning, while I did reply to yours.
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posted August 25, 2008 06:39 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 18:39, 25 Aug 2008.
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If you think that my counter argument has flaws REPLY TO IT.
Of course sure, now I'm supposed to counter the existence of Invisible Flying Pink Unicorns. But if I say "I don't see them, thus I proved my point" (this IS an argument) you reply with: "If you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist" (your silly argument)
I mean come on, let's see what the others decide, who's argument is weaker (and no, don't even start to talk about majority, but what makes you think your argument is stronger than mine?)
YOU have yet to prove the existence of Invisible Flying Pink Unicorns, not the other way around!
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posted August 25, 2008 06:47 PM |
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Of course sure, now I'm supposed to counter the existence of Invisible Flying Pink Unicorns.
No, you're supposed to counter the "crusade" example that countered your stupid "majority" arguments.
Is that so hard to understand?
Let me spell it out simpler:
Let's say I present the Flying pink unicorn arguments.
You say that majority says it's silly, and majority is right.
I counter that with the crusade example (look at atheists today will you? it's "fine" to be one)
you have yet to counter that. By countering your argument, and you not countering my crusade example, you'll have to come up with something else against the Flying Pink Unicorns.
BTW: my point wasn't even about Flying pink Unicorns. So let's drop that.
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But if I say "I don't see them, thus I proved my point" (this IS an argument)
Yes it is an argument.
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you reply with: "If you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist" (your silly argument)
So? Both are arguments (and please stop the "silly" crap).
You don't have to reply to it -- you said that you only trust your eyes. Good. I can bring out arguments. Those interested look at them, and possibly even reply to them. You don't have to, if you stay on yours.
That's what philosophy is all about. There's no true consensus. It's why there are always discussions. If you feel interested, you reply to some arguments.
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I mean come on, let's see what the others decide, who's argument is weaker
Crusaders decide?
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what makes you think your argument is stronger than mine?
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Nothing. Except my own thinking which I tried to express here. Are you going to keep on that question. I already answered this freaking question before (previous post). It's not about being "better" it's about discussion and PRESENTING arguments. WTH is so hard to understand? Each side presents arguments.
You did, however, present the "majority" (or at least what YOU think is the majority, read up on consensus reality.... AGAIN) argument hat "majority is RIGHT".
I countered that argument with my crusade example. I have yet to see you not ignore it. A discussion can only go forward if you keep on quoting NEW arguments and counter-arguments, not cling on my initial ones.
This is a record seriously. Three times in a row, same question.
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YOU have yet to prove the existence of Invisible Flying Pink Unicorns, not the other way around!
Interesting, how many times do i have to repeat myself? Seriously ppl. 
This is not science. This is a discussion. If you don't want to discuss and only accept proofs, then stay out of it. It's simple. I started with arguments. I don't have to prove anything -- you can just as well ignore what i say. But please, if you do so, DO NOT REPLY.
By the way, what can a PIECE of text on a POST on a forum prove???????????????
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posted August 25, 2008 06:49 PM |
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You know what? If your arguments aren't some form of "proofs" then they are WEAK and are no better than "because I say so". Thus, I proved my point
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posted August 25, 2008 06:53 PM |
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You know what? If your arguments aren't some form of "proofs" then they are WEAK and are no better than "because I say so". Thus, I proved my point
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1) Learn philosophy
2) Study philosophy
3) Understand how to REPLY in a philosophical argument/question/subject.
4) If you don't like a question, DON'T REPLY to it saying how "obvious" it is. Provide arguments
Unless... you think philosophy doesn't exist and only science does.
heck can you believe lots of people are religious and like to DISCUSS their religion (not just subdue to it)? or philosophical people? strange, this thread is a place for them. 
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posted August 25, 2008 11:23 PM |
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Majority is subjective.
Majority isn't subjective. Majority means greater than 50%. If you have 3 people, and 2 of them hold one view, and one holds another, it's objective to say that the two people hold the majority view.
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posted August 26, 2008 04:21 AM |
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For God's sake, the game is over!
Winners will be announced tomorrow at the Hall of Glory.
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posted August 26, 2008 12:02 PM |
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Majority isn't subjective. Majority means greater than 50%. If you have 3 people, and 2 of them hold one view, and one holds another, it's objective to say that the two people hold the majority view.
But it is not objective to say that the majority is RIGHT or holds the TRUTH, simply because it is the majority
this was just a clarification, you can not count it if you want GL.
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posted August 26, 2008 12:10 PM |
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THE GAME IS OVER DEATH!!!!!!!!
I know you're addicted to replying, but this is overkill
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posted August 26, 2008 02:51 PM |
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Edited by zamfir at 15:20, 26 Aug 2008.
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Lol I won the Bronze medal. I was skocked when I saw; it was totally unexpected.
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