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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 04:25 PM |
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firedragon strikes with...dishonour .. again!
Played with firedragon Genesis.In week 5 he came near my main town with his main hero;he killed 2 scouts and was in way to my town.When my turn came I attacked him and we fought a little.After few turns he run away with money.(he killed some of mine,Archers I killed some of him,ballista).
PS:we both agree in beggining not dv ,hit and run.
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 21, 2008 04:26 PM |
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Can't you people just stop playing firedragon if he is so dishonorable?
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 04:28 PM |
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Didnt know he cant lose a game with honor.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 04:43 PM |
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Quote:
Played with firedragon Genesis.In week 5 he came near my main town with his main hero;he killed 2 scouts and was in way to my town.When my turn came I attacked him and we fought a little.After few turns he run away with money.(he killed some of mine,Archers I killed some of him,ballista).
PS:we both agree in beggining not dv ,hit and run.
I think this was a little bit too short opening of this thread.
By discussing with both parties (and please Lord corect if I am wrong), here are some extra facts:
Fire played with orcs.
Both parties cause casualties to other, but Lord did major damage killing 2 cyclops.
Fire retreated after sawing puppet master casted by Lord on his cyclops.
He paid more than 50000 gold in exchange.
Both parties have big size of army involved.
In my mind its clearly not an hnr.
I was chatting to Lord about it, and in his interpretation no hnr means, that you cant retreat after you cauzed 1 HP damage. Even this is a simple rule, this is surely not the meaning of hnr for me, and would lead to a game, where only one final battle is possible, which is ridicolous.
I feel that this time Fire is accused without any bases.
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 05:02 PM |
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Interpretations again... for crying out loud, this was NOT a hnr case by any means! But why should you bother interpreting it at all? Genesis has schackles for both players. Availability of schackles removes the hnr discussion in its very root. 
Hopefully, by the moment I write this, both of you are already continuing the game 
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jorko80
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 05:10 PM |
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This is clearly not hnr at all, you fought ,firedragon saw that he is in a worse position and paid to retreat. I had a fight vs Jinxer where we fought for more then 2 hours and in the end I saw my only chance is to retreat at this time and confront him later and that granted me the win. Lord Nerevar you must put another rule to your games not just no hnr, but just one final battle with no retreating!
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 05:17 PM |
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Sorry Kispagat but were wrong informed intentionaly:
-I killed him only ballista and some centaurs ,resurrect and puppet (if I knew this is a hit and run game I will definatly killed some ciclpos).
-he paid 30.000 for his runaway.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 05:27 PM |
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Sorry Kispagat but were wrong informed intentionaly:
-I killed him only ballista and some centaurs ,resurrect and puppet (if I knew this is a hit and run game I will definatly killed some ciclpos).
-he paid 30.000 for his runaway.
Sorry for misunderstanding, but these info came from our conversation also, my fault then, but I dont think it changes anything
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 05:28 PM |
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So jorko,if in a fight someone made causalities to you and run away ,for you this is not hit and run.
He had small army just in case to retreat,is clear he has a strategy for run away ( he doenst have goblins and all centaurs).
He just made some causalities an run away.More clear then this it cant be,or maybe a subjective opinion is hidden between your lines.
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 05:36 PM |
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I lost archers and he los ballista.and i was with ossir.Clear what the strategy was.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted September 21, 2008 06:11 PM |
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Edited by diegis at 18:14, 21 Sep 2008.
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I lost archers and he los ballista.and i was with ossir.Clear what the strategy was.
It happened to me as well. I say Hit and Run clearly! simple as that..
EDIT: he made a mistake attacking, so, have to face the situation, my point of view.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 06:24 PM |
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I lost archers and he los ballista.and i was with ossir.Clear what the strategy was.
How many hunters were lost?
1-2 or 200?
What kind of actions were done before he run?
Please, answer these, important.
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jorko80
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 06:26 PM |
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Well he faced the situation and clearly he saw that the retreating is a must. I'm not defending Firedragon, I even think that he is a dishonorable type of player reading all topics here. But this is not hnr. HNR is when someone enters with 7 units ,put some spells on you and run, or enters with a super fast unit hit you ,pay and then run. The game you describe feels like you've played several rounds and running after that is completely normal. I had a game with Zilonite where I easily killed his army, he just killed some of mine because he had destructive magic, but then he retreated,bought his new population and fought me again and I defeated him again and then this happened for a third time and I defeated him again and in the fourth fight my army was so reduced that he beated me and won the game. So this is not HNR , I just made some mistakes and payed for them.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 06:27 PM |
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I lost archers and he los ballista.and i was with ossir.Clear what the strategy was.
It happened to me as well. I say Hit and Run clearly! simple as that..
EDIT: he made a mistake attacking, so, have to face the situation, my point of view.
I think when you realize that you cant win a final battle, the best you could do is retreat, if u can afford it. Stay there and loose is nothing to do abt honour, but foolish act. If u need to pay 30000 to go away, the intention cant be hnr.
Also, Strider's remark is good here. Take shackles, its there.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 21, 2008 06:30 PM |
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Edited by Aculias at 18:31, 21 Sep 2008.
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Oh brother lol.
This is almost worst then Vangela's cry to the public about some rediculas attention.
Everyone has their own definition about H&R.
I got told off many time by Rychen about H&R.
Basically if 2 players attack each other, then that is not a case of H&R.
YOU JUST GOT MAD BECAUSE YOU DID NOT GET THE WIN, that was right in the grip of your hands.
Then I guess Dragon has a reputation by the way Asheera was talking & you used that against him you little I wont say it in public lol.
Why dont you cry to someone who cares with this crap lol.
That is what this whole thread is CRAP LOL.
Save the drama for mama.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted September 21, 2008 06:46 PM |
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right,I see nobody crying here but u acu.... Chapter closed.
Its nothing more then a game...
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 06:52 PM |
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right,I see nobody crying here but u acu.... Chapter closed.
Its nothing more then a game...
Thought you quit
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2008 06:53 PM |
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My dear aculia ,nobody cry here ,I only asked for help from more experienced players.
I think not this thread is a crap ,I think your post is a crap cose u tell nothing ,only injuries.I understand from your post only one think : u are a small kid who suffer a great from his position.
Next time when u want to post on this thread Im waiting for an "ASK" first.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 21, 2008 06:54 PM |
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Hahaha.
At least I never came on here coming to the public bringing up a toh players name to ruin his reputation on crap like this LOL.
As usual this is funny to me because it rediculas.
WHY would you talk about every bad game.
We never did that in the past unless it's really needed.
Digest, you need to understand that THEY need to understand it's just a game like you told me.
It happens, deal with it.
The thing with Vangela died down like i told everyone it would.
Now this guy brings up new flame.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 21, 2008 06:56 PM |
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You said a player is dishonourable Lord Never.
You said again & you name tactics that people did in my time all the time.
So yea when you mention someones name being dishonourable & mention tactics like this to the public, I consider it crying.
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